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Old August 15th 03, 02:06 PM
Brian
 
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Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Brian wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...

I was "intimately" involved with HF communications across the Pacific in
the 1960's at hours of my own choosing. My station also worked across
the Atlantic and across the Indian Ocean. It did so with less power
than yours and I was still a teenager.


Was this an amateur station?


It most certainly was.


Cool. What amateur call sign did you use?

Was it capable of only working over oceans, or could it work over land masses as well?


I wasn't simultaneously living on both coasts, Brian. Try to figure it
out.


Try not being so smug, David.

You never did say where you were; where your station could work across
the Pacific ocean, and across the Indian and Atlantic oceans. I'm
trying to think of a geographic location with "both coasts" and those
three oceans.

So kindly tell us what country that you operated from that had "both
coasts" and three oceans.

I was "intimately" involved with HF military communications, working
transatlantic and transpacific paths using a variety of log periodic,
inverted discone and rhombic antennas and either 10 kw or 45 kw
transmitters from 1968-1970. The station was in operation 24/7 but I
generally pulled eight hour shifts...


Of your own choosing, right?


What's the difference for purposes of discussion? Do you know anyone
who ever worked 24 hour days for a solid week?


Your comment, "of my own choosing" sounds very odd for a military
radio station.

You said that you had an amateur station, and you pulled military
shifts of your own choosing.

In your original statements above, did you really mean to string
together an amateur station from a country with two coasts and three
oceans, with your military station in Vietnam?

I was "intimately" involved with in-country HF military operations for a
year in Vietnam.

I spent fifteen "intimate" years overseas with the U.S. Department of
State where I was responsible for all HF and VHF communications whether
by voice, asynchronous data or morse.


So this wasn't amateur radio either?


Read it again and perhaps you'll figure it out.


But I thought this group was to discuss amateur radio. And you do get
after Len for bringing up other services communications, however long
ago it may have been.

I've spent forty years as an active radio amateur, operating various
modes on bands from 1.8 through 432 MHz.


Aren't you going to ask me if this was military communications or State
Department communications?


No. I recognize this as an amateur radio discussion group, and I
recognize that you are finally addressing amateur radio operations.
Congratulations.

Why did you stop at 432 MHz? Even most store bought amateur UHF rigs
are capable of going up to 450 Mhz.


Weak signal work on SSB and CW takes place in that area of the band.


It may. Or it may not.

That's where I happen to spend much of my time. Is that all right with
you?


Peachy.

Oh, uhhh. Forgot. Superior Heil "doan do FM (tm Kelly)"


I have a 440 rig at home. I use it occasionally. I use 2m FM


So your statement of frequency ranges above is inaccurate. It would
more accurately read, "1.8 to 450 MHz."

regularly. Looks like you've struck out on your attempt to hit a nerve,
little electrolyte.


No attempt made. I just figured that such a great ham as yourself was
short changing himself with such a limited portfolio of RF activity.

I can go on and on without ever
touching the recorded and evidencible facts of having spent three
years being actively involved with the latter. That grates on you.

Three years? Three measly years? It grates on me that you'd dare
compare your three years to my experience and pretend to have a lock on
knowledge.


Grates on you, huh?


Figure it out.


No problem.

Some people learn faster than others. Look at everyone's vastly
different learning experiences with Morse Cose to see what I mean.
Some are never able to learn it at all.


Learning rate isn't under discussion. Experience is.


Ah, No. You specifically said, "knowledge." Think about it. Can one
attain knowledge only through experience?

But with respect to radio theory and ops, perhaps Len is a quicker
learner than you. Perhaps not.


Ask him.


I wonder what he would say?

You tell me everyone if learns the same, and if so, I'll have to give
you this one.


Figure it out.


Ah, sorry. You don't get this one.

Unless Len actually has more than just the three years
RF experience that you reference.


Ask him. I'm sure he'll be happy to go on about it at great length.


Much like your military and dept. of state resume?

And what of education? Can education play a role in knowledge?


Figure it out.


Ah, you don't get this one either.

Dave, you deserve a much needed vacation from rrap. At least consider
it.