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August 22nd 03, 01:12 AM

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Well...You KNOW who I nominate:

For his pages long recitings of his CV...

For his frequent retelling of how he "worked DX" in a 1950's-era
Army radio station...

What would you call long distance communications?

Closed circuit communications. "Working DX" is an Amateur term,

No, it isn't. It has application is other radio services, used as Len
described.

Brian, go easy on Steamy. He doesn't know about all the hundreds
of communication carrier companies that were doing point-to-point
radio communications before he was born. He doesn't know that
militaries around the world were using radio for primary long-distance
communications before he was born. He just doesn't know.

"DX" as a term/phrase, came from commercial communications folks
standing for "distance." It used a very long time ago as a kind of
morse code shorthand. Steamy just doesn't know about that.

applied to Amateur practice, involving radio communication between
Amateur Radio stations. His Army nets worked specific stations on
specific frequencies at specific times with overwhelming power and
resources. An idiot could complete a contact with that much
power...Ooooops...an idiot DID complete those contacts...forgive me...

Now you're calling DoD communications idiotic? You really don't like
the military much, do you?

Steamy never did any communications while in the military...other than
talking on the telephone. :-)

Why would you want Army communications to get through only some of the
time?

It's painfully obvious, Brian. Steamy hates me. I served in the US Army
so, naturally to him, anything Army is subject to hatred, villification, and
denigration.

Steamy never did any primary communications while in the USMC. Naturally
he resents that anyone else did.

Steamy cannot possibly understand the importance of primary comm
needs of an area command or that it must continue to be available 24
hours a day, 7 days a week, all year long. Back before the DSN and
optical fiber lines and communications satellites, the primary long-
distance communication medium was HF radio. Army radio ADA
served the all-branch Far East Command in the early 1950s and never
failed...even during a 3-hour solar flare in 1955 that disrupted the longest
circuites...the shorter ones continued to operate uninterrupted.

"Overwhelming power" must be the 4 KW PEP Western Electric LD-T2,
all of 6 db higher than maximum legal US amateur RF output. It could
be the old Press Wireless 15 KW CW (but always used FSK TTY), the
40 KW Collins-made AN/FRT-22 didn't arrive until 1955. All that plus a
small airfield containing the wire antennas helped "Get The Message
Through" 24/7. The thousands who were assigned to ADA didn't have
much choice but to make sure the communications got through. It did.

Have you never heard of "Peace through superior firepower?"

Steamy can only think of the hymnal about Montezuma and Tripoli.

Steamy is a mighty macho marine morseman, far superior to ordinary
folk. He is a regular Atilla the Ham. :-)

For his frequent demeaning of not only individual Amateurs, but
of the Amateur Service as a whole...

I'm an individual amateur and a member of the ARS as a whole. I don't
"feel" demeaned. There is some truth in Len's observation of the ARS.
Accept it.

There's very LITTLE truth.

There's more there than you want to admit.

Steamy can't handle real truth.

And you're one of those who, just like Lennie, demonstrate a very
poor understanding of those same Amateur practices, so I am very
UNIMPRESSED about how you feel about his sleights.

You are singularly unimpressive.

Steamy is louder than any BPL QRM in here. :-)

For his frequent attempts to associate himself with Soldiers who
died in combat for the purpose of improving his own "reputation"...

If you served, you are associated with soldiers who died in combat.
That's just the way it is, and no amaount of running away from it will
disassociate you from them. Yet there are those who never served and
claim "military experience." That is disgusting.

Many of my fellow Marines have fallen in combat. That is true. I
honor them and wish they never had to be called upon to make that
sacrifice, but they did.

And I would assume that some have fallen since your departure as well.

Some of them probably fell while staggering back from the NCO club.

UNLIKE Lennie, however, I have never tried to link myself to
those Marines (or any other servicemember, for that matter) in such a
way as to insinuate that I was somehow part and parcel of that
sacrifice for my own benefit or "reputation".

THAT is disgusting.

Why do you continually distance yourself from your military heritage?

Steamy is hell bent on doing anything he can to say bad things about
his "enemies." He tries to turn around statements I say so that they
are pejoratives.

Fact is, long ago I served in the US Army and was assigned to a Signal
Battalion that had 19 casualties (all killed) on July 1, 1950, in Korea.
They and the four USAF crew members were on a TDY under direct
orders from General MacArthur's headquarters to help improve the
communications in Korea during the first two weeks of the Korean War.
In the next six years there would be four more members of that Signal
Battalion who became casualties of the Korean War and the Korean
Truce (which is still in effect, the War never being officially over). I've
stood retreat for those 19 and the billet where I was in for nearly two
years was renamed for one of the casualties, Cpl Elmer Hardy. Hardy
Barracks still exists today in Tokyo, much reduced in size, but still
holding the offices of the Pacific Stars & Stripes military newspaper.

Steamy's concept of "honor" only applies to whatever and whomever He
"honors." He cannot comprehend anyone else honoring their old
military unit or even knowing details of that unit. Such seems to be an
abomination with him.

Steamy, and some others, are resentful and some probably envious that
anyone else had any primary communications tasks over HF a half
century ago. He still lives in a fantasy world of amateurism where ONLY
amateur radio has "conquered" HF and ALL radio communications is
rated and gauged by amateur recreational and hobby activities on HF radio.
That is a terribly elitist...and very false...viewpoint. All it shows is
his
ignorance of the larger world of commercial and government radio.

Steamy can't admit to such ignorance. To do so would be to "lose face"
and he would disgrace his personal opinion by such admission. He MUST
keep up the image of the "expert," the "pioneer of HF radio" through
amateurism of the 1930s. Such is a substitute for his terminated military
career. He glories in the rank, status, privilege of amateur extra and
looks
down on all not achieving his personal stature...typical of those who have
not achieved much rank, status, or privileges in real life.

I will be glad and honored to link my name with my old Signal Battalion
anytime, anywhere. That Battalion still exists in spirit today as the 78th
Signal Service Battalion, Camp Zama, Japan, under the command of the
516th Signal Brigade headquartered at Fort Shafter, Hawaii, and attached
to the US Army Pacific as its main communications provider.

The envelope pleeeeeeease! (drom roll ensuses....)

Leonard H. "Lennie the Liar" Anderson!

Respectfully submitted,

Obviously disrespectfully submitted.

How "obviously"..?!?! Is anything I said untrue...?!?!

Amazingly, everyone has their own version of "the truth." Yet, truth
and disrespect are not the same thing.

Steamy has his Fantasy. He can change the "truth" in that Fantasy
to be whatever he wants. It pleasures him greatly to heap abuse on
those who have made it in the real world and done more than he was
able to do.

Steve, K4YZ

At least you didn't start a new thread over it.

Nope...someone else did...But JUST FOR YOU, Brain, I started
another one with yet another unravelling of your Rear Area War Hero's
rants...That being how allegedly "unimportant" Amateur Radio is in the
overall scheme of the radio world.

Congratulations. You are so easy to manipulate.

Heh heh...Steamy still hasn't given any details of his own claims to
honor and glory of "seven hostile actions." He never will. :-)

Seems he doesn't have the full appreciation of the pulse of the
radio world as he alledges...Not that any of "us" didn't know already.

Steve, K4YZ

What did he say that was untrue?

Steamy is still wrapped up in his Fantasy.

I've had a full working career in radio-electronics and that is archived in
records other than "Google." My military record is archived at NARA in
St. Louis and Eugene Rosenbaum, N2JTV, served in my Signal Battalion
at the same time I did. Gene is also in retirement from a career at FAA
but very much alive. My colleague at Rocketdyne and manager at RCA
is Jim Hall, KD6JG. A good friend is Al Walston, W6MJN, who was
Best Man at my wedding. I've been in contact with Jim Brendage, a
civilian engineer at ADA and a former USAF NCO who served at ADA's
old transmitter site after the USAF took over all HF comm in 1963. The
callsign of the US Army Pacific Headquarters (Hawaii) is still ADA.

According to Steamy, all those statements are "lies." Despite their real
world existance, Steamy doesn't want to admit their truth. He calls
anything I say a "lie." It's just not worth it to attempt discussion with a
psychotic.

Some else in here who used to quote an old baseball player is fond of
repeating "It ain't braggin' if ya done it." I did it. I don't have to
brag.

Leonard H. Anderson
retired (from regular hours) electronic engineer person