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Old September 21st 03, 05:51 AM
Alun Palmer
 
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Leo wrote in
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Very well said, Dee - anything is possible if you want to do it badly
enough..


And if you want to do it badly enough you may end up doing it so badly
that it would have been better if you had not tried!

I am certainly no prodigy at morse, electronics, martial
arts, cooking, business management or anything else - but I have
always been able to accomplish the things that I was motivated to do.
Mind you, it took me until I was 45 to become motivated enough to
learn morse code - but I wanted to get on HF, focused on the goal,
bought some training software online and passed the 5 wpm test four
weeks later. Conversely, I have wanted to learn to play the guitar
since I was a teenager - not sufficiently enough, though, as I never
did do it. Which, in retrospect, is probably a good thing....

Talent has very little to do with accomplishment (it does relate to
the level of excellence that one can attain


Indeed it does. There are some things that I will never be excellent at,
and Morse code is one of them.

, but to become reasonably
proficient in anything talent is not a factor), especially in ventures
based primarily on rote repetition like morse, Karate, or learning a
language. Aptitude and motivation, yes, but not talent. Otherwise,
I'd have accomplished nothing so far

Blaming a lack of talent for failure to accomplish something reflects
on a persons' own inability to accept responsibility for their own
actions


So you can do anything can you? Do you beat up on yourself whenever you
fail at something? That doesn't sound very healthy to me.

- successful people, quite simply, go out and get what they
want. Or, in the words of Albert Gray:

"Successful people are successful because they form the habits of
doing those things that failures don't like to do"

73, Leo


Fine qualities for a chairman of a Fortune 500 company maybe, but as a
condition for admission into a hobby???


On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:53:12 GMT, "Dee D. Flint"
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"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
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"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
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All of the above makes my point about attutude.


Attitude is the key in almost every endeavor. I've succeeded in a
number of things for which I had no talent but had sufficient
reason to pursue. These include Morse code, music, and karate. I
had no talent for any of them but did quite well simply because I
wanted to.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


But, Dee, does that mean that everyone must? I'm not saying you've
ever said that, because I don't know. I just wonder what posture
you're taking, above.

Kim W5TIT


I'm simply saying that lack of talent is not a sufficient justification
for refusing to learn something. I'm saying that motivation is many
times more important than talent. If a person doesn't want to learn
something, say so. Don't try to justify it with the lack of talent
argument. I've seen enough untalented people achieve their goals to
have little patience with such rationalizations.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE