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Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
Hello, everyone. I'm enquiring as to whether anyone has done NEC2/NEC4
modeling on the subject antenna (including a tower mounting) and operating on the ham bands. Do you have tabulated driving point (antenna feedpoint) and gain data that you might share? Thanks for your time and comment. Sincerely, and 73s from N4GGO, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 |
Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
J. B. Wood wrote:
Hello, everyone. I'm enquiring as to whether anyone has done NEC2/NEC4 modeling on the subject antenna (including a tower mounting) and operating on the ham bands. Do you have tabulated driving point (antenna feedpoint) and gain data that you might share? Thanks for your time and comment. Sincerely, and 73s from N4GGO, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 I suggest you contact the manufacturer (http://www.hexbeam.com), if you haven't already. They might have some information they'd share. Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
John,
Take a look at my web site if you haven't already found it. There are 2 pages devoted to modelling the hexbeam and there's an EZNEC file for a five-band version you can download: http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/hexbeam/eznec1/ http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/hexbeam/eznec2/ 73, Steve G3TXQ |
Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
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John, Take a look at my web site if you haven't already found it. There are 2 pages devoted to modelling the hexbeam and there's an EZNEC file for a five-band version you can download: http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/hexbeam/eznec1/ http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/hexbeam/eznec2/ 73, Steve G3TXQ Nicely done, Steve. Thanks. tom K0TAR |
Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
J. B. Wood wrote:
Hello, everyone. I'm enquiring as to whether anyone has done NEC2/NEC4 modeling on the subject antenna (including a tower mounting) and operating on the ham bands. Interesting designs, I hadn't seen them before. For a hand-held DF sniffer on 2m, might there be compactness advantages? What would the approximate dimensions of be of a hexbeam on 2 metres? Clifford Heath, VK3CLF |
Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
Clifford,
Turn radius is about 12.5" for a 2m broadband hex. It should be possible to get very deep and narrow F/B nulls by adjusting the Driver/Reflector end spacing at some cost to the VSWR. Steve G3TXQ |
Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
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John, Take a look at my web site if you haven't already found it. There are 2 pages devoted to modelling the hexbeam and there's an EZNEC file for a five-band version you can download: http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/hexbeam/eznec1/ http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/hexbeam/eznec2/ 73, Steve G3TXQ Now, that's what I'm talkin' about! Great job, Steve. 73's, |
Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
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Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
Clifford,
There are two styles of hexbeam: the older design which has a W-shape Driver and a W-shape Reflector, and which I call the "classic" on my web site; and my newer broadband design which has a W-shape Driver and a U-shape Reflector. I found in my lab notebook a 2m version of the broadband style; its dimensions a half-Driver 21"; Reflector 40"; end gap 2.5". I think I assumed wire construction using #14 bare copper. That would give a hexagon radius of 12.5". When I model this with EZNEC I see about 3.8dBd Forward Gain and 19dB F/B with VSWR=1.4. The problem is that the rearward response is very smooth and "well behaved" so probably not much use for DF. If I increase the end gap to 5" the Forward Gain and F/B remain about the same, but the azimuth pattern devlops deep side nulls (38dB) at plus and minus 130 degrees which may be useful. The VSWR deteriorates to 1.8:1. Hopefully that may give you a starting point for experimentation. If I get a chance I'll try some modelling experiments on the classic design also. 73, Steve G3TXQ |
Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
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Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
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Clifford, There are two styles of hexbeam: the older design which has a W-shape Driver and a W-shape Reflector, and which I call the "classic" on my web site; and my newer broadband design which has a W-shape Driver and a U-shape Reflector. I found in my lab notebook a 2m version of the broadband style; its dimensions a half-Driver 21"; Reflector 40"; end gap 2.5". I think I assumed wire construction using #14 bare copper. That would give a hexagon radius of 12.5". When I model this with EZNEC I see about 3.8dBd Forward Gain and 19dB F/B with VSWR=1.4. The problem is that the rearward response is very smooth and "well behaved" so probably not much use for DF. If I increase the end gap to 5" the Forward Gain and F/B remain about the same, but the azimuth pattern devlops deep side nulls (38dB) at plus and minus 130 degrees which may be useful. The VSWR deteriorates to 1.8:1. Hopefully that may give you a starting point for experimentation. If I get a chance I'll try some modelling experiments on the classic design also. 73, Steve G3TXQ Hello, Steve, and all. Steve, I see you also have an informative article that is posted online at www.antennex.com/preview/Dec507/hexbeam.pdf 73s, |
Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
On Jun 4, 1:09*pm, "J.B. Wood" wrote:
Hello, Steve, and all. *Steve, I see you also have an informative article that is posted online atwww.antennex.com/preview/Dec507/hexbeam.pdf Yes, that article described the process by which I arrived at the broadband version. Since then there have been a couple of write-ups in the monthly Antenna column of RadioCommunication magazine, and RSGB published the design in their recent book "Building successful HF antennas". You may also have seen Leo's (K4KIO) constructional article in the March edition of QST. All that has generated quite a lot of interest in the antenna. I try to avoid exagerated claims for the design - at the end of the day it's a "compressed" Yagi and performs as such. But it does provide useful directivity over the five bands 20m thru 10m, with a single feedline, in a size which suits those of us that don't have a lot of space. It's also pretty easy to construct from readily-available materials, although a number of folk now supply complete kits, including K4KIO and more recently DX Engineering. 73, Steve G3TXQ |
Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
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Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
"J.B. Wood" wrote : Thanks for the reply, Steve. As for exaggerated claims, I'd have to give the award to the designers of (and explainers of the "theory" behind) the Crossed-Field Antenna (CFA). (Of course the CFA has been the subject of numerous antenneX articles but I'm not placing yours in that group!) 73s, I guess that you haven't seen info provided by Art on his shoe-box sized 160M thru whatever antenna that has +9 db gain, and a pencil-thin beam of radiated particles. Art's technical expertise beats the crap out of the CFA guys, as HE (Art) improves on Maxwell's and Gauss' equations, too. And all of this from a retired mechanical engineer, working in his backyard! Mike W5CHR Memphis |
Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
J.B. Wood wrote:
Thanks for the reply, Steve. As for exaggerated claims, I'd have to give the award to the designers of (and explainers of the "theory" behind) the Crossed-Field Antenna (CFA). (Of course the CFA has been the subject of numerous antenneX articles but I'm not placing yours in that group!) 73s, Here's my candidate for the award, embodied in a U.S. patent: http://tinyurl.com/h546u Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
Roy Lewallen wrote:
J.B. Wood wrote: Thanks for the reply, Steve. As for exaggerated claims, I'd have to give the award to the designers of (and explainers of the "theory" behind) the Crossed-Field Antenna (CFA). (Of course the CFA has been the subject of numerous antenneX articles but I'm not placing yours in that group!) 73s, Here's my candidate for the award, embodied in a U.S. patent: http://tinyurl.com/h546u Roy Lewallen, W7EL This particular antenna has the useful property of enhancing plant growth too.. " It has been observed by the inventor and witnesses that accelerated plant growth can occur using the present invention. " I think David Strom knew what we was writing about. He deserves a beer. |
Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:30:29 -0700, Roy Lewallen wrote: Here's my candidate for the award, embodied in a U.S. patent: http://tinyurl.com/h546u Roy Lewallen, W7EL The link first returned: crt0: ERROR couldn't open /usr/lib/dld.sl errno:000000023 Error #1010 Error: Filter Process terminated abnormally. Document may be truncated. A few minutes later, it was: Error #1006 Error! BRS was unable to process your request. A diagnostic message was mailed to the appropriate personnel. I hate days like this.... Eventually the patent appeared, but no illustrations on that page. Instead, see: http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=csYDAAAAEBAJ&dq=6,025,810 for the schematics, illustrations and a parts list. Hmmm.... only works above 1000F temperature. Googling a bit deeper, I find that the patent holder, David L. Strom, is currently a real estate agent in Colorado. http://www.homethinking.com/180340-David-L-Strom-Coldwell-Banker-Strom--Associates-Inc.html patent # 6025810 if you use the http://www.uspto.gov/ site.. Some day, we'll all be talking about the famous '810 Strom patent, just like folks in the semiconductor industry talk about the '275 Kilby patent Here's my favorite: http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=N_sEAAAAEBAJ&dq=5,982,276 Not exactly an antenna. It uses a MASER to (somehow) magnetically couple Gigabit data to the power lines. The company is still around: http://www.mediafusionllc.net And reforming: "The Media Fusion Team is now re-forming. Mr. William "Luke" Stewart will act a temporary President and Chief Executive as well as Chief Scientist. As other key resources are identified and recruited they will become part of the Media Fusion, LLC Team. A recruiting committee has been formed and recommendations are now being considered." perhaps because of 15 dec 2006.. Preliminary settlement agreement signed by the honorable Judge Ann Ashby, presiding Judge, 134th District Court, Dallas, Texas. |
Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 11:11:44 -0700, Jim Lux
wrote: Here's my favorite: http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=N_sEAAAAEBAJ&dq=5,982,276 Not exactly an antenna. It uses a MASER to (somehow) magnetically couple Gigabit data to the power lines. The company is still around: http://www.mediafusionllc.net And reforming: "The Media Fusion Team is now re-forming. Mr. William "Luke" Stewart will act a temporary President and Chief Executive as well as Chief Scientist. As other key resources are identified and recruited they will become part of the Media Fusion, LLC Team. A recruiting committee has been formed and recommendations are now being considered." perhaps because of 15 dec 2006.. Preliminary settlement agreement signed by the honorable Judge Ann Ashby, presiding Judge, 134th District Court, Dallas, Texas. The old web sites are rather interesting: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.mediafusionllc.net My favorite is the photos of the interface controller built into a wall outlet box: http://web.archive.org/web/20000229124801/www.mediafusionllc.net/northamerica/main/tech/interface.html I showed it to a friend in the power industry who had some interesting things to say about sharing a power outlet box with phone and cable. However, the 14 flashing lights are kinda cool. The problem with such patents is that if someone actually invents a decent way to couple, distribute, and switch gigabit data on the power lines, they'll end up in court fighting this patent. This is also known as a "blocking patent". It's sometimes fun to see where they spend their money. In 1999, they burned $120K on lobbying. In 2000, they only wasted $70K. https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?lname=Media+Fusion+LLC&id=Y000003383 20&year=1999 Also, I dunno about the FTL (faster than light) antenna design. That implies that the acknowledgements will arrive before the transmissions, which will surely confuse a T/R switch. Perhaps a predictive T/R switch will help (one that switches before one intends to switch it). -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
. . . Also, I dunno about the FTL (faster than light) antenna design. That implies that the acknowledgements will arrive before the transmissions, which will surely confuse a T/R switch. Perhaps a predictive T/R switch will help (one that switches before one intends to switch it). The cool thing is that you'll get the QSL card before you have the QSO. If no QSL comes, don't bother with the QSO. Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
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wrote: Jeff Liebermann wrote: . . . Also, I dunno about the FTL (faster than light) antenna design. That implies that the acknowledgements will arrive before the transmissions, which will surely confuse a T/R switch. Perhaps a predictive T/R switch will help (one that switches before one intends to switch it). The cool thing is that you'll get the QSL card before you have the QSO. If no QSL comes, don't bother with the QSO. Roy Lewallen, W7EL Hey! I thought one had to await for auroras in NJ for that to happen ;_) 73s from N4GGO, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 |
Hexbeam Antenna Modeling
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Roy Lewallen wrote: Also, I dunno about the FTL (faster than light) antenna design. That implies that the acknowledgements will arrive before the transmissions, which will surely confuse a T/R switch. Perhaps a predictive T/R switch will help (one that switches before one intends to switch it). The cool thing is that you'll get the QSL card before you have the QSO. If no QSL comes, don't bother with the QSO. But, if you *do* get the QSL card, you *must* make the QSO. No excuses allowed. If you don't, you rupture the space-time continuum, cause the entire Universe to end, and are cited by the Causality Police and must pay a stiff fine. -- Dave Platt AE6EO Friends of Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
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