I am finding that WindowsXP is allowing 20 cookies (plus other stuff ) a day
to attach to my computor which requires the use of another program to be
activated
every day to quarentine them. Thinking of going back to the Netscape browser
so as to
keep the computor cleen. Also interested in how much it would cost for
firewalls to bring
WindowsXP back to the protective level of Netscape 7.1.
Comments
(Yes I know it is not antenna related, unless you
need a computor to read antenna postings or use WindowsXP for antenna
software!)
Art

If you are going to do that - go to " Mozilla.org " as understand, they
created Netscape's software -- and get their new browser "Mozilla
Firefox " and their companion e-mail server " Mozilla Thunderbird"
- both are freebies and, that the ones I useing- has all the
conveniences of outlook/and I.E. 6, but seems to be friendlier to
blocking junk, and not as vulnerable to the security holes that M/S
has. Give it a try ! Jim NN7K


, Art, wrote:
I am finding that WindowsXP is allowing 20 cookies (plus other stuff ) a day
to attach to my computor which requires the use of another program to be
activated
every day to quarentine them. Thinking of going back to the Netscape browser
so as to
keep the computor cleen. Also interested in how much it would cost for
firewalls to bring
WindowsXP back to the protective level of Netscape 7.1.
Comments
(Yes I know it is not antenna related, unless you
need a computor to read antenna postings or use WindowsXP for antenna
software!)
Art

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 20:49:10 GMT, "
wrote:

I am finding that WindowsXP is allowing 20 cookies (plus other stuff ) a day
to attach to my computor which requires the use of another program to be
activated
every day to quarentine them. Thinking of going back to the Netscape browser
so as to
keep the computor cleen. Also interested in how much it would cost for
firewalls to bring
WindowsXP back to the protective level of Netscape 7.1.
Comments
(Yes I know it is not antenna related, unless you
need a computor to read antenna postings or use WindowsXP for antenna
software!)
Art


I assume you've downloaded the free Service Pack 2 for Windows XP. It
adds all kinds of security features.

On Windows XP, you can go into the Control Panel to "Windows Firewall"
and activate it, if it is not already activated.

You can also go into Internet Explorer, to Tools, to Internet Options,
to Privacy, and increase your security to hold most, if not all,
Cookies in check.

Bob
k5qwg

Yup. Heard on a computor discussion that XP was as open as a barn door and
over time
the computor got slower and slower. They also stated that Netscape
apparently not
subject that much to attacks Didn't take much notice at the time until I
bought a 3 Gig processor
and after a while checked how much junk had unknowingly been attached to it,
one of which
had slowed me down till it shut down completely!
I wouldn't be surprised if this newsnet did add junk every time you linked
to it.


"Jim - NN7K" wrote in message
. com...
If you are going to do that - go to " Mozilla.org " as understand, they
created Netscape's software -- and get their new browser "Mozilla
Firefox " and their companion e-mail server " Mozilla Thunderbird"
- both are freebies and, that the ones I useing- has all the
conveniences of outlook/and I.E. 6, but seems to be friendlier to
blocking junk, and not as vulnerable to the security holes that M/S
has. Give it a try ! Jim NN7K


, Art, wrote:
I am finding that WindowsXP is allowing 20 cookies (plus other stuff ) a
day
to attach to my computor which requires the use of another program to
be
activated
every day to quarentine them. Thinking of going back to the Netscape
browser
so as to
keep the computor cleen. Also interested in how much it would cost for
firewalls to bring
WindowsXP back to the protective level of Netscape 7.1.
Comments
(Yes I know it is not antenna related, unless you
need a computor to read antenna postings or use WindowsXP for antenna
software!)
Art

" wrote in message
news:aT2ud.231357$R05.32013@attbi_s53...
I am finding that WindowsXP is allowing 20 cookies (plus other stuff ) a
day
to attach to my computor which requires the use of another program to be
activated
every day to quarentine them. Thinking of going back to the Netscape
browser
so as to
keep the computor cleen. Also interested in how much it would cost for
firewalls to bring
WindowsXP back to the protective level of Netscape 7.1.
Comments
(Yes I know it is not antenna related, unless you
need a computor to read antenna postings or use WindowsXP for antenna
software!)
Art

I lost confidence in netscape when aol took it over.
Try mozilla firefox (it is free)
or
Avant browser (also free)
--- also download the free firewall (zoneAlarm) from zone labs
and-- free antivirus software (AVG)
and you can replace microsoft office with OpenOffice .org
and if you can find some scrap wire, we can talk about a free antenna
:-)




---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.807 / Virus Database: 549 - Release Date: 12/7/2004

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 22:29:31 GMT, "
wrote:

Yup. Heard on a computor discussion that XP was as open as a barn door and
over time
the computor got slower and slower.

Hi Art,

I hear that so often now.

They also stated that Netscape
apparently not
subject that much to attacks

Netscape has its own problems, but not like the MS suite.

Didn't take much notice at the time until I
bought a 3 Gig processor
and after a while checked how much junk had unknowingly been attached to it,
one of which
had slowed me down till it shut down completely!

I only have to look at your headers to see you use Outlook Express
which is a piece of trash. It has the worst reputation as being a
virus whore.

I wouldn't be surprised if this newsnet did add junk every time you linked
to it.

News groups might be mined for emails for subsequent Spam, but there
is nothing in the NNTP (protocol) that would allow anyone to attach
anything to your computer. This kind of stuff comes automatically as
a customer enhancement by MS for IE and OE users and arrives by email
or through visits on the Web. There are no trojan horses, viruses,
cookies, advertising (pop up windows that is, there is still Spam of
course) or spyware that can infect your machine through participating
in newsgroup activity.

I've gotten what looks like a potential virus sent to me because they
got my name here. WAMU frequently is part of the subject heading or
in the message. This may not be a virus (as the ISP certifies it is
not) but rather a Phising link. No problem, my mail reader is not
going to run it, open it, or do anything without my permission. I
simply trash that stuff. Been doing that for 10 years with either
Eudora or Agent and never been burnt except once (trusted a friend) -
then fixed that the next day after the infected Comcast ISP servers
stopped thrashing themselves to death. Yup, they were using MS
servers.

For anyone seriously interested in the mortar between their firewall
bricks, go to:
http://grc.com/default.htm
and page down to the heading "Your Three Musketeers"
There are at least a half dozen security checks there that can inspect
your machine for back doors and potential hacker access. Very simple
software, loads fast, runs fast, and says quite plainly in English,
"You are Safe" or "You are in Trouble."

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

wrote:
I am finding that WindowsXP is allowing 20 cookies (plus other stuff ) a day
to attach to my computor which requires the use of another program to be
activated
every day to quarentine them. Thinking of going back to the Netscape browser
so as to
keep the computor cleen. Also interested in how much it would cost for
firewalls to bring
WindowsXP back to the protective level of Netscape 7.1.
Comments
(Yes I know it is not antenna related, unless you
need a computor to read antenna postings or use WindowsXP for antenna
software!)

Hey Art, here are my suggestions:

1. Get Zonealarm, Preferably version 4.xx

3. Get Netscape, or one of the flavors of its engine, such as Firefox.
Use this to get your mail, and read newsgroups too.

4. Start Internet Exploder one last time. When Zonealarm pops up and
asks if Exploder can have access to the net, then click "remember" and
deny it permission.

By denying IEEEEEEE! permission to ever access the web on your machine,
you will be doing humanity a great favor. Same for Outlook.

If you get the paid version of Zonealarm, you can have it delete all
cookies every day. You can also select ones you want to keep, if any.

5. Consider using a proxy server such as Proxomitron,(freeware)
especially if you are on Cable, or DSL.

6. Always change the updates feature of your computer so that you
manually do the updates. If you automatically update, you will find that
Microsoft may make your computer more secure by making it less
operative! 8^)

Hope this helps!

- Mike KB3EIA -

Interesting.
So, do you still use Windows with a replacement for Outlook Express
together with the link that you pointed to or do you pay for extra computor
protection?
I must admit that I thought everything was as one should expect until I used
the free ' adware' to check how clean or dirty the computor was and I was
really shocked. Fortunately with the help of an inserted disc I am able to
run my antenna programs in what I see as a DOS emulator which allows me to
use high speed processing without the fear
of outside interference and slow down. I have heard that Netscape has its
problems but does not have enough useage
to attract bad guys and commercial collectors. Tho I have done computor
programming in Fortran and the like in the old days when we used punched
tape I must admit to being totally illiterate when computors changed over to
pre caned programming to which I turned up my nose too, only to find I was
quickly left behind and not adaptable to change.
Regards
Art

"Richard Clark" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 22:29:31 GMT, "
wrote:

Yup. Heard on a computor discussion that XP was as open as a barn door
and
over time
the computor got slower and slower.

Hi Art,

I hear that so often now.

They also stated that Netscape
apparently not
subject that much to attacks

Netscape has its own problems, but not like the MS suite.

Didn't take much notice at the time until I
bought a 3 Gig processor
and after a while checked how much junk had unknowingly been attached to
it,
one of which
had slowed me down till it shut down completely!

I only have to look at your headers to see you use Outlook Express
which is a piece of trash. It has the worst reputation as being a
virus whore.

I wouldn't be surprised if this newsnet did add junk every time you
linked
to it.

News groups might be mined for emails for subsequent Spam, but there
is nothing in the NNTP (protocol) that would allow anyone to attach
anything to your computer. This kind of stuff comes automatically as
a customer enhancement by MS for IE and OE users and arrives by email
or through visits on the Web. There are no trojan horses, viruses,
cookies, advertising (pop up windows that is, there is still Spam of
course) or spyware that can infect your machine through participating
in newsgroup activity.

I've gotten what looks like a potential virus sent to me because they
got my name here. WAMU frequently is part of the subject heading or
in the message. This may not be a virus (as the ISP certifies it is
not) but rather a Phising link. No problem, my mail reader is not
going to run it, open it, or do anything without my permission. I
simply trash that stuff. Been doing that for 10 years with either
Eudora or Agent and never been burnt except once (trusted a friend) -
then fixed that the next day after the infected Comcast ISP servers
stopped thrashing themselves to death. Yup, they were using MS
servers.

For anyone seriously interested in the mortar between their firewall
bricks, go to:
http://grc.com/default.htm
and page down to the heading "Your Three Musketeers"
There are at least a half dozen security checks there that can inspect
your machine for back doors and potential hacker access. Very simple
software, loads fast, runs fast, and says quite plainly in English,
"You are Safe" or "You are in Trouble."

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
wrote:
I am finding that WindowsXP is allowing 20 cookies (plus other stuff ) a
day
to attach to my computor which requires the use of another program to
be
activated
every day to quarentine them. Thinking of going back to the Netscape
browser
so as to
keep the computor cleen. Also interested in how much it would cost for
firewalls to bring
WindowsXP back to the protective level of Netscape 7.1.
Comments
(Yes I know it is not antenna related, unless you
need a computor to read antenna postings or use WindowsXP for antenna
software!)

Hey Art, here are my suggestions:

1. Get Zonealarm, Preferably version 4.xx

3. Get Netscape, or one of the flavors of its engine, such as Firefox.
Use this to get your mail, and read newsgroups too.

4. Start Internet Exploder one last time. When Zonealarm pops up and
asks if Exploder can have access to the net, then click "remember" and
deny it permission.

By denying IEEEEEEE! permission to ever access the web on your machine,
you will be doing humanity a great favor. Same for Outlook.

If you get the paid version of Zonealarm, you can have it delete all
cookies every day. You can also select ones you want to keep, if any.

5. Consider using a proxy server such as Proxomitron,(freeware)
especially if you are on Cable, or DSL.

6. Always change the updates feature of your computer so that you
manually do the updates. If you automatically update, you will find that
Microsoft may make your computer more secure by making it less
operative! 8^)

Hope this helps!

Mike
EVERY thing I am getting is a real help and an education for me
I did get a private E mail that high lighted a version of Netscape that with
a press of
+ or - you can make reading news much easier to read by enlarging the
script !
I am sure that there is more than one old guy like myself on this newsgroup
who would
apreciate such an aid . With respect to the advice coming in, I wonder how
many have
checked their computors with 'adware' to verify the veracity of what they
have stated?
Regarding the aditional purchase of 'Zonealarm' , I am trying to resist
placing more
money in to computors e.t.c.when the origional suppliers of programming
were derelict
in providing adequate protection in the first place, but I am not totally
stubborn to the idea
of admitting defeat.
Regards
Art

Regards
Art
- Mike KB3EIA -

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 01:10:13 GMT, "
wrote:

Interesting.
So, do you still use Windows with a replacement for Outlook Express
together with the link that you pointed to or do you pay for extra computor
protection?

I abandoned the home versions of Windows long long ago (I use Win2000
Pro). I got it pretty cheap as a computer upgrade, all I had to do
was buy some hardware to qualify, and I bought the hard disk that I
have it running on right now, in the old system (just added it as
drive two, and use the original drive for storage).

I have NEVER used Outlook Express. I bought Agent after using Free
Agent for a year. I wanted to combine my News reader with a Mail
reader that had very good filters. Those filters, once I trained
them, act like bug zappers and automatically trash Spam. I have 8
filters that steer acceptable email to different folders; I have 10
filters that deletes porn; I have 4 filters that ignore odds and ends
that I can look at if I want (but ends up in the trash anyway). Agent
is $35 and I've been using it for 8 years.

I am also using Firefox now (it lit up in seconds where Netscape
stumbled along). I also use Agnitum Outpost Firewall (free version).
It always lets me know when some piece of trash wants to call home. I
say no, and then take out the trash.

I must admit that I thought everything was as one should expect until I used
the free ' adware' to check how clean or dirty the computor was and I was
really shocked. Fortunately with the help of an inserted disc I am able to
run my antenna programs in what I see as a DOS emulator which allows me to
use high speed processing without the fear
of outside interference and slow down. I have heard that Netscape has its
problems but does not have enough useage
to attract bad guys and commercial collectors.

That has nothing to do with it. It is the "features" of IE and OE
that are the back doors to the system. Do you want to share your
printer with the world? MS thinks you do, and has designed this into
their OS as a special feature for your "benefit."

Tho I have done computor
programming in Fortran and the like in the old days when we used punched
tape I must admit to being totally illiterate when computors changed over to
pre caned programming to which I turned up my nose too, only to find I was
quickly left behind and not adaptable to change.

It just runs faster. Being bigger means no one person really
understands it all. When the operating systems were 15,000 bytes big,
you could figure it out in a weekend. Multiply that by a million
weekends. Only Chinese teenagers have that kind of patience.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC