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Colin,
No problem here. I'm happy to have it! All I was saying is
I've never seen a radio in this kind of condition, and thats
in 35+ years as a ham and collector of radio stuff.
I cannot describe its condition.....you'd have to see
(and smell) it. It will be a major challenge to restore.

I already have an SP-600 in near mint condition that
stays inside next to all of my other nice stuff. This latest
radio will never be mint, but will end up in my garage
shop to replace a Realistic DX-160. Useful for listening
to the 40 meter swap net, and WWV to cal my counter
timebase.

Steve
p.s.-I'm not a 'leave it on the shelf' collector....all of my
equipment gets used.

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And, what is the problem. What would you do if, instead, you found a
brand new, in the box, SP-600. You would have to leave it in the box and
not touch it. Even worse would be to find one in a sealed box. Then, you
could x-ray it and store it safely.

But, in your case, you will restore it and know every inch of it. And,
because it is less than perfect, you can use it. You can even make
modifications to it without getting the blessing from the pope.

If you do not have 1/2 a dozen rigs in your collection that start out like
that, you do not have much of a collection. I know some collectors that
consider every rig that is a bit less than perfect as a parts rig. That
is an admission of failure.

Colin K7FM



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Brian,
I have one of these (Genoscope) as well. It is a very interesting
piece of test equipment. The mirror for the scope is the thing
that made me buy mine.

I'm too chicken to hose down the SP-600. I've dealt with
too many radios that had open IF transformers due to corrosion.
I don't want to wash the mouse **** into those IF cans!
I'll do it the hard way. No pain no gain!


You dont want to drench the cans. Just rinse the deck with a controled
spray. Have fun.

BH


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"I've never seen a radio in this kind of condition, and thats
in 35+ years as a ham and collector of radio stuff.
I cannot describe its condition.....you'd have to see
(and smell) it. It will be a major challenge to restore."

Perfect one to restore. I once got an amplifier that apparently had
parasitics. Meters broken; face and inside spray-painted and sides and
front panel apparently hit with a chain. Band-switch burnt beyond
recognition. No bottom cabinet (roll around type), It looked ok when I got
done and worked, but did not look like original. Felt good putting that
sucker back on the air.

My best work was a Johnson Adventurer that had about 10 extra holes in the
front panel. The panel was restored, although I never duplicated the
original Johnson paint scheme.

Now, if only I had an engraving machine to make new engraved front panels.

Colin K7FM


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"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message
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"I've never seen a radio in this kind of condition, and thats
in 35+ years as a ham and collector of radio stuff.
I cannot describe its condition.....you'd have to see
(and smell) it. It will be a major challenge to restore."

Perfect one to restore. I once got an amplifier that apparently had
parasitics. Meters broken; face and inside spray-painted and sides and
front panel apparently hit with a chain. Band-switch burnt beyond
recognition. No bottom cabinet (roll around type), It looked ok when I
got done and worked, but did not look like original. Felt good putting
that sucker back on the air.

My best work was a Johnson Adventurer that had about 10 extra holes in the
front panel. The panel was restored, although I never duplicated the
original Johnson paint scheme.

Now, if only I had an engraving machine to make new engraved front panels.

Colin K7FM



Hey Brian, you did a good job! That one radio - the "black"(?) one (looked
black to me) looked really nice. The one which had the white lettering
standing out. Good Pics and one hell of a good job! Did you redo the
lettering with a "model" paint brush or what? Looks like you had a pretty
steady hand if ya did.


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COLIN LAMB wrote:
And, what is the problem. What would you do if, instead, you found a brand
new, in the box, SP-600. You would have to leave it in the box and not
touch it. Even worse would be to find one in a sealed box. Then, you could
x-ray it and store it safely.

But, in your case, you will restore it and know every inch of it. And,
because it is less than perfect, you can use it. You can even make
modifications to it without getting the blessing from the pope.

If you do not have 1/2 a dozen rigs in your collection that start out like
that, you do not have much of a collection. I know some collectors that
consider every rig that is a bit less than perfect as a parts rig. That is
an admission of failure.

Colin K7FM


Not getting it to do it's job is failure, if it's if it sees a lot of
use, ugly is okay until you can do better as long as that won't matter.
A threat to the set's life is the best reason not to try until it can
be saved, but ugly is a great teacher.



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JUST A WARNING TO ALL RESTORERS OF RAT INFESTED RADIOS......



Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome

Definition***

Hantavirus is a disease characterized by flu-like symptoms followed by
respiratory failure.

Causes, incidence, and risk factors

Hantavirus has probably caused people to get sick for years in the United
States, but it was not recognized until recently.

A 1993 outbreak of fatal respiratory illness on an Indian reservation in the
Four Corners area (the border of Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, and Arizona)
led epidemiologists to the discovery of hantavirus as the causative agent.
Since that discovery, hantavirus disease has been reported in every western
state, and in many eastern states.

Hantavirus is carried by rodents, particularly deer mice, and is present in
their urine and feces. The virus does not cause disease in the carrier
animal. Humans are thought to become infected when they are exposed to
contaminated dust from the nests or droppings of mice.

The disease is not, however, passed between humans. Contaminated dust is
often encountered when cleaning long-vacated dwellings, sheds, or other
enclosed areas.

The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported that
rodents carrying hantavirus have been found in at least twenty national
parks and that it is possible that the virus is in all of the parks.

Epidemiologists at the CDC suspect that campers and hikers may have a higher
chance of contracting the disease than most people. This is due to the fact
that they pitch tents on the forest floor and lay their sleeping bags down
in musty cabins.

So far, however, of the more than 100 cases that have been reported in the
U.S., only two were directly linked to camping or hiking. Most people who
are exposed have come into contact with rodent droppings in their own homes.

The initial symptoms of hantavirus disease closely resemble influenza. The
disease begins abruptly with fever, chills, muscle aches (myalgia),
headache, nausea and vomiting, and malaise. A dry cough may be present. The
fever may be higher in younger people than in older people.

For a very short period, the infected person feels somewhat better, but this
is followed within a day or two by an increased respiratory rate caused by a
seepage of fluid into the lungs. The initial shortness of breath is subtle
and the patient may be unaware of it, but progression is rapid. The patient
ultimately develops respiratory failure.

An effective treatment for hantavirus is not yet available. Even with
intensive therapy, more than half of the diagnosed cases have been fatal.

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WDØHCO - Biz wrote:
JUST A WARNING TO ALL RESTORERS OF RAT INFESTED RADIOS......



Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome

Definition

Hantavirus is a disease characterized by flu-like symptoms followed by
respiratory failure.

Causes, incidence, and risk factors

Hantavirus has probably caused people to get sick for years in the United
States, but it was not recognized until recently.

A 1993 outbreak of fatal respiratory illness on an Indian reservation in the
Four Corners area (the border of Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, and Arizona)
led epidemiologists to the discovery of hantavirus as the causative agent.
Since that discovery, hantavirus disease has been reported in every western
state, and in many eastern states.

Hantavirus is carried by rodents, particularly deer mice, and is present in
their urine and feces. The virus does not cause disease in the carrier
animal. Humans are thought to become infected when they are exposed to
contaminated dust from the nests or droppings of mice.

The disease is not, however, passed between humans. Contaminated dust is
often encountered when cleaning long-vacated dwellings, sheds, or other
enclosed areas.

The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported that
rodents carrying hantavirus have been found in at least twenty national
parks and that it is possible that the virus is in all of the parks.

Epidemiologists at the CDC suspect that campers and hikers may have a higher
chance of contracting the disease than most people. This is due to the fact
that they pitch tents on the forest floor and lay their sleeping bags down
in musty cabins.

So far, however, of the more than 100 cases that have been reported in the
U.S., only two were directly linked to camping or hiking. Most people who
are exposed have come into contact with rodent droppings in their own homes.

The initial symptoms of hantavirus disease closely resemble influenza. The
disease begins abruptly with fever, chills, muscle aches (myalgia),
headache, nausea and vomiting, and malaise. A dry cough may be present. The
fever may be higher in younger people than in older people.

For a very short period, the infected person feels somewhat better, but this
is followed within a day or two by an increased respiratory rate caused by a
seepage of fluid into the lungs. The initial shortness of breath is subtle
and the patient may be unaware of it, but progression is rapid. The patient
ultimately develops respiratory failure.

An effective treatment for hantavirus is not yet available. Even with
intensive therapy, more than half of the diagnosed cases have been fatal.


Thanks for sharing that. You didn't mention if it causes insanity in
computer posters though.

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Well.. anything's possible, but I have original original Hammarlund and
MIL books for the entire series, plus the factory brochures. None show
handles nor are they listed in any parts breakdown (IPB)that I have.
Having said that, I'm sure some agencies machine shop could have readily
installed them. One point... I have seen some SP-600's that came out of
NSA that had countersunk holes on the extreme left and right edges,
aligned with the rack screw holes. I'm told they were for a visual
security cover for the front panel. At any rate, if anyone has a mfgr's
picture of one with handles, I'd like to see it. I may want to
retrofit. As I mentioned originally, they would look good.

Rob Mills wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
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I'm sure you're right, but the JX-26 I restored last year has handles,


and they appear to be original.

The one I had (sold it in the early 80's) had handles. RM~



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WDØHCO - Biz wrote:
JUST A WARNING TO ALL RESTORERS OF RAT INFESTED RADIOS......
Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome


Hantavirus will survive outsite the host body for only several days
when exposed to air at room temperature. I would consider any radio
hantavirus safe provided it was kept out of rodent infested area for a
week or longer. There is no need to be excessively paranoid after the
quarantine period is over.

Hantavirus is susceptible to UV light so sun light would inactivate
viral particles much faster. Viral particles are protected by a layer
of lipids so an exposure to a surfactant like a detergent or to a
solvent like isopropanol (rubbing alcohol) would inactivate them fast
as well.

Those with allergies would be however still some concerned about
exposure to mold spores and similar allergens that may be present on
the surface of droppings.

Jiri Placek
Boyertown, PA

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Another hobby I have been into is restoring and collecting pinball
machines. I picked up an old machine a couple of winters ago that sat
in a barn for years. Brought it home and cleaned out the rats nests
and left in the garage. Summer hit and the rat **** that had soaked
into the wood stunk BIG time. Used javex to try to disinfect but no
match for the smell.

Sold it to a guy who has posted in this group. He said it eventually
faded but...

I won't buy anything in the winter that is wood that has had a nest in
it.

Brian



WDØHCO - Biz wrote:
JUST A WARNING TO ALL RESTORERS OF RAT INFESTED RADIOS......



Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome

Definition

Hantavirus is a disease characterized by flu-like symptoms followed by
respiratory failure.

Causes, incidence, and risk factors

Hantavirus has probably caused people to get sick for years in the United
States, but it was not recognized until recently.

A 1993 outbreak of fatal respiratory illness on an Indian reservation in the
Four Corners area (the border of Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, and Arizona)
led epidemiologists to the discovery of hantavirus as the causative agent.
Since that discovery, hantavirus disease has been reported in every western
state, and in many eastern states.

Hantavirus is carried by rodents, particularly deer mice, and is present in
their urine and feces. The virus does not cause disease in the carrier
animal. Humans are thought to become infected when they are exposed to
contaminated dust from the nests or droppings of mice.

The disease is not, however, passed between humans. Contaminated dust is
often encountered when cleaning long-vacated dwellings, sheds, or other
enclosed areas.

The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported that
rodents carrying hantavirus have been found in at least twenty national
parks and that it is possible that the virus is in all of the parks.

Epidemiologists at the CDC suspect that campers and hikers may have a higher
chance of contracting the disease than most people. This is due to the fact
that they pitch tents on the forest floor and lay their sleeping bags down
in musty cabins.

So far, however, of the more than 100 cases that have been reported in the
U.S., only two were directly linked to camping or hiking. Most people who
are exposed have come into contact with rodent droppings in their own homes.

The initial symptoms of hantavirus disease closely resemble influenza. The
disease begins abruptly with fever, chills, muscle aches (myalgia),
headache, nausea and vomiting, and malaise. A dry cough may be present. The
fever may be higher in younger people than in older people.

For a very short period, the infected person feels somewhat better, but this
is followed within a day or two by an increased respiratory rate caused by a
seepage of fluid into the lungs. The initial shortness of breath is subtle
and the patient may be unaware of it, but progression is rapid. The patient
ultimately develops respiratory failure.

An effective treatment for hantavirus is not yet available. Even with
intensive therapy, more than half of the diagnosed cases have been fatal.


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