Strap one around your privates. You will not believe the improvement in
performance!

"happy-go-lucky" wrote in message
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On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:22:08 GMT, "L Ron Hubbub"
wrote:

http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/...o?itemid=36098

Be sure to read the product manual! Its a real joke - 'magnetic circuitry'
indeed.

And of course one or more of you knuckleheads out there reading this will
swear you are getting great fuel milege because you too have a magnet
strapped to your fuel line......


I use two of these...one on the fuel line right after the gas tank,
and the other up closer to the engine. I have seen about a 15%
increase in fuel mileage. At first, I didn't think it was working too
well until one of the guys at my local Harbor Freight store who works
on cars told me to make sure they are both installed with the same
magnetic polarity. Sure enough, he was right.

Car manufacturers could put these on their vehicles, but don't to save
on production costs. The "Tornado" is another item that is worth its
weight in gold.

So the joke is on you, L Ron. These things really do work.

"Beech Creek" wrote in message
om...
Strap one around your privates. You will not believe the improvement in
performance!


LOL.......... Believe it or not - someone probably has already thought of
trying it OR done it.
Some guys (and gals) will try "anything" to make life interesting. NOTHING
surprises me anymore - but it sure makes for some good reading!

Next case please?

"L Ron Hubbub" wrote in message
. net...

http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/...o?itemid=36098

Be sure to read the product manual! Its a real joke - 'magnetic circuitry'
indeed.

Quite similar to the steam boiler scale control products.

I had on guy come around with a thing you clamped around
the feedwater pipe going into the boiler. He claimed it was ultrasound
or something like that. I asked him if he would replace a $80,000.00
boiler if it was damaged from scale buildup and he left.

Obviously he did not believe in his own product.




And of course one or more of you knuckleheads out there reading this will
swear you are getting great fuel milege because you too have a magnet
strapped to your fuel line......

"Beech Creek" wrote in message
om...
Strap one around your privates. You will not believe the improvement in
performance!


Insertion might be a bit difficult.





"happy-go-lucky" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:22:08 GMT, "L Ron Hubbub"
wrote:


http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/...do?itemid=3609
8

Be sure to read the product manual! Its a real joke - 'magnetic
circuitry'
indeed.

And of course one or more of you knuckleheads out there reading this
will
swear you are getting great fuel milege because you too have a magnet
strapped to your fuel line......


I use two of these...one on the fuel line right after the gas tank,
and the other up closer to the engine. I have seen about a 15%
increase in fuel mileage. At first, I didn't think it was working too
well until one of the guys at my local Harbor Freight store who works
on cars told me to make sure they are both installed with the same
magnetic polarity. Sure enough, he was right.

Car manufacturers could put these on their vehicles, but don't to save
on production costs. The "Tornado" is another item that is worth its
weight in gold.

So the joke is on you, L Ron. These things really do work.

nonoise wrote:
[snip]
There are, sad to say, cases where ad hominem attacks are warranted, and
this is one of them. The original post is off-topic, but that's a minor
offense on Usenet. However, the claims _ARE_ laughable, and anyone who
champions such nonsense deserves to be offered a discount on a bridge:
if nothing else, it's a chastening reminder that, in the future, those
who were disposed to believe them should drop a gold brick on the ground
before negotiating a purchase.

William

William, I was with you until this paragraph. Even the most laughable
claims, in my opinion, warrant one of two reactions online: Ignore
them, or explain, using facts and not just assertions, why you believe
them to be nonsensel. I disagree that ad hominem attacks are EVER
appropriate in response to a claim concerning UFOs, fuel line magnets,
political conspiracies--you name it. My usual response is to roll my
eyes and move on. The only reason I posted this time was because the
issue has been researched by responsible parties and I thought it might
be worthwhile to make that known.

Why bother with personal attacks? The faceless, no-consequences
Internet makes that too easy as it is. No way do I believe that some of
the meanspirited garbage that stains too many NGs (spend 15 minutes on
antiques radio/phono or shortwave) would come from somebody's mouth in
a real conversation, even one conducted over the phone and not in
person.

"shark45" wrote in message
news

"Beech Creek" wrote in message
om...
Strap one around your privates. You will not believe the improvement in
performance!


Insertion might be a bit difficult.


That too - hasn't stopped some from "trying". When I was doing a stint as a
medic, I heard a doctor talking about a patient who had a "light bulb" of
the conventional type - "attempted" to be stuck up his anal cavity in a feat
of sexual pleasure - and it "busted" leaving shards of glass up in the
rectum.

People do the weirdest things. As I said in a previous post - "nothing"
surprises me - but it sure makes for some interesting reading.

Avery W3AVE wrote:
nonoise wrote:
[snip]
There are, sad to say, cases where ad hominem attacks are warranted, and
this is one of them. [snip]

William

William, I was with you until this paragraph. Even the most laughable
claims, in my opinion, warrant one of two reactions online: Ignore
them, or explain, using facts and not just assertions, why you believe
them to be nonsensel. I disagree that ad hominem attacks are EVER
appropriate in response to a claim concerning UFOs, fuel line magnets,
political conspiracies--you name it. My usual response is to roll my
eyes and move on. The only reason I posted this time was because the
issue has been researched by responsible parties and I thought it
might be worthwhile to make that known.

Why bother with personal attacks? The faceless, no-consequences
Internet makes that too easy as it is. No way do I believe that
some of the meanspirited garbage that stains too many NGs
(spend 15 minutes on antiques radio/phono or shortwave)
would come from somebody's mouth in a real conversation, even
one conducted over the phone and not in person.


You are correct, in the sense that an "ad hominem" attack is against a
person instead of his/her argument: it's a logical fallacy, and should
be avoided for that reason. However, as you point out, another poster
had already refuted the claim: I though it obvious that no further
evidence was needed.

Someone who asserts that the moon is made of green cheese, or that the
earth is flat, or that magnets affect gasoline - or that Africans are
inferior - should be answered with skepticism. Even the most wild
speculation can attain the status of "fact" when enough people believe
it: my father was fond of saying "A million Frenchmen can't be wrong",
and Joseph McCarthy proved that Americans are never short on
gullibility, so I remain convinced that an appeal to preconceived
notions, either of racial purity or oil company conspiracies, deserves,
if not derision, at least to be received with an extra measure of caution.

In other words, the burden of proof is on the claimant: if someone
believes that magnets can improve gasoline mileage, let him step up and
demonstrate it. If he can't, let him take his lumps.

I'm sorry to crabwalk here, but I believe my concerns are real, and I
have seen otherwise "normal" people hire "Feng shui" "practitioners" to
place magnets in their work cubicle (so as to assure that the stars were
in alignment or the worm had turned or the entrails were favorable, or
whatever it is that convinces "normal" people to open their wallets).
The one constant of the human race is that David Hannum _was_ right:
"There's a sucker born every minute".

Our history has shown that a million suckers _can_ be wrong, but it also
demonstrates, as Galileo would attest, that they can be very vicious
when confronted with the newest version of the truth. I know I make your
argument for you here, but with a point in mind: those with outlandish
ideas had best be ready for a lot of hard stares and possess a lot of
hard facts.

William
P.S. Suggestions as to a more appropriate forum are, of course, welcome.

--
A little learning is a dang'rous thing;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring;
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again.
-- Alexander Pope, Essay on Criticism

nonoise wrote:

You are correct, in the sense that an "ad hominem" attack is against a
person instead of his/her argument: it's a logical fallacy, and should
be avoided for that reason. However, as you point out, another poster
had already refuted the claim: I though it obvious that no further
evidence was needed.

Someone who asserts that the moon is made of green cheese, or that the
earth is flat, or that magnets affect gasoline - or that Africans are
inferior - should be answered with skepticism. Even the most wild
speculation can attain the status of "fact" when enough people believe
it: my father was fond of saying "A million Frenchmen can't be wrong",
and Joseph McCarthy proved that Americans are never short on
gullibility, so I remain convinced that an appeal to preconceived
notions, either of racial purity or oil company conspiracies, deserves,
if not derision, at least to be received with an extra measure of caution.

In other words, the burden of proof is on the claimant: if someone
believes that magnets can improve gasoline mileage, let him step up and
demonstrate it. If he can't, let him take his lumps.

I'm sorry to crabwalk here, but I believe my concerns are real, and I
have seen otherwise "normal" people hire "Feng shui" "practitioners" to
place magnets in their work cubicle (so as to assure that the stars were
in alignment or the worm had turned or the entrails were favorable, or
whatever it is that convinces "normal" people to open their wallets).
The one constant of the human race is that David Hannum _was_ right:
"There's a sucker born every minute".

Our history has shown that a million suckers _can_ be wrong, but it also
demonstrates, as Galileo would attest, that they can be very vicious
when confronted with the newest version of the truth. I know I make your
argument for you here, but with a point in mind: those with outlandish
ideas had best be ready for a lot of hard stares and possess a lot of
hard facts.

William
P.S. Suggestions as to a more appropriate forum are, of course, welcome.

At the risk of repetition and belaboring the obvious, there isn't
anything at all in your response with which I disagree. "An extra
measure of caution"..."answered with skepticism": exactly.

sci.skeptic is one place that someone who is genuinely curious about an
improbable claim
might find help. It is no place for those who believe regardless of the
lack of evidence.

Alnico or an electromagnet?


"Beech Creek" wrote in message
om...
Strap one around your privates. You will not believe the improvement in
performance!

"happy-go-lucky" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:22:08 GMT, "L Ron Hubbub"
wrote:


http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/...do?itemid=3609
8

Be sure to read the product manual! Its a real joke - 'magnetic
circuitry'
indeed.

And of course one or more of you knuckleheads out there reading this
will
swear you are getting great fuel milege because you too have a magnet
strapped to your fuel line......


I use two of these...one on the fuel line right after the gas tank,
and the other up closer to the engine. I have seen about a 15%
increase in fuel mileage. At first, I didn't think it was working too
well until one of the guys at my local Harbor Freight store who works
on cars told me to make sure they are both installed with the same
magnetic polarity. Sure enough, he was right.

Car manufacturers could put these on their vehicles, but don't to save
on production costs. The "Tornado" is another item that is worth its
weight in gold.

So the joke is on you, L Ron. These things really do work.

No, not "What was being claimed?" but "was that being claimed"

And a number of groups I frequent have the custom of top posting, which in
my opinion makes new postings easier to read, without scrolling down. I
agree that in some cases of long threads this can be a less advisable idea,
Barry.

God Bless (couldn't resist it!) G

"Barry OGrady" wrote in message
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:39:55 +1100, "aalaan" wrote:

Absolutely. Was that being claimed?

That you top post.


"cmdr buzz corey" wrote in message
roups.com...

JOHN D wrote:
There are people who believe they've been aboard alien spaceships too.

Wonder why it only works on 4 cyl engines? Seems if it works on 4 it
should work on 6 and 8 as well.



Barry
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