JOE wrote:
This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs.

Etc.

Joe, let me ask you this: if by sacrificing one rig he can enable the
resurrection of a dozen Heathkits which otherwise would have been consigned
to the scrap heap, wouldn't you think that would be a *good* thing?

That was not a rhetorical question. I'd be interested in your answser.

--
John Miller, thinking now of parting out a perfectly good Tek 465B
Email address: domain, n4vu.com; username, jsm

The party adjourned to a hot tub, yes. Fully clothed, I might add.
-IBM employee, testifying in California State Supreme Court

Ripping apart a MINT radio (I've been watching this guy for months - he had
a MINT SB-303 back a few months ago) is absurd.

Defend it all you like. I still think it's just plain profiteering and
destroying
a limited resource.

Maybe those who think this is right will allow hunting of bald eagles
too....


"Lou" wrote in message
...
And the next time you write to my personal E-MAIL, leave a valid address
for
my reply. Share your comments with the group. Yes, maybe he is trying to
put
food on his table. No one would knock him for that. Just seems a bit odd
to
tear apart "working" units. That is all I think anyone is trying to say.
There are reasons, I've had them as I've alluded to... It just seems to by
pass common sense though - in many cases.

Lou

wrote in message
...
Parts are always worth more then the hole try buying a car a piece at a
time.

jakdedert wrote:

Lou wrote:

Not that I agree with stripping a "working" unit apart to sell the
parts, but I have seen cases where an item was "close" to working
condition, but to put money into it to get it to work was more
expensive than had the person stripped it and sold it for parts - as
the parts for that particular unit were hard to find and not
necessarily cheap. The only time I've stripped working items to sell
parts from, is if I could not sell it whole, or it was too expensive
to ship and I found people interested in buying the parts. I did
quite well that way. Maybe this guy "feels" he can make more parting
it out than it is worth! This guy may have an axe to grind.. Maybe he
doesn't like Ham and this is his revenge - or as another stated, his
therapy. Who knows what may be the driving force......



I can understand the emotion. Seeing something perfectly good ripped
apart
sets my teeth on edge as well. I guess we all have to console
ourselves
with the idea that those parts will go on to make any number of 'not
working' sets 'perfectly good' again...although given an option, I'd
think
that an original--not cobbled together with parts from donor
sets--would
be
worth more.

jak


Lou

"JOE" wrote in message
etnews.com...


Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit
before he could disassemble it.


Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up!

"I" am not defending it "entirely", but if the man pays for it, it is his to
do with as he pleases! As the anonymous one wrote to me, He is putting food
on his table by doing so. That is HIS words, not mine. I only tore my ****
apart because it was TOO BIG to ship and it was more acceptable to be sold
by parts, which I DID do. ALL sold in a couple weeks. It was a USED item
though. IF the guy feels it will bring in more to him dead than alive, that
is his prerogative. It doesn't mean I, you or anyone else has to agree or
disagree. It's his ****, he'll do with it as he pleases. Our opinions don't
really mean dick in the end.

Lou

"JOE" wrote in message
news.com...
Ripping apart a MINT radio (I've been watching this guy for months - he
had
a MINT SB-303 back a few months ago) is absurd.

Defend it all you like. I still think it's just plain profiteering and
destroying
a limited resource.

Maybe those who think this is right will allow hunting of bald eagles
too....


"Lou" wrote in message
...
And the next time you write to my personal E-MAIL, leave a valid address
for
my reply. Share your comments with the group. Yes, maybe he is trying to
put
food on his table. No one would knock him for that. Just seems a bit odd
to
tear apart "working" units. That is all I think anyone is trying to say.
There are reasons, I've had them as I've alluded to... It just seems to
by
pass common sense though - in many cases.

Lou

wrote in message
...
Parts are always worth more then the hole try buying a car a piece at
a
time.

jakdedert wrote:

Lou wrote:

Not that I agree with stripping a "working" unit apart to sell the
parts, but I have seen cases where an item was "close" to working
condition, but to put money into it to get it to work was more
expensive than had the person stripped it and sold it for parts - as
the parts for that particular unit were hard to find and not
necessarily cheap. The only time I've stripped working items to sell
parts from, is if I could not sell it whole, or it was too expensive
to ship and I found people interested in buying the parts. I did
quite well that way. Maybe this guy "feels" he can make more parting
it out than it is worth! This guy may have an axe to grind.. Maybe
he
doesn't like Ham and this is his revenge - or as another stated, his
therapy. Who knows what may be the driving force......



I can understand the emotion. Seeing something perfectly good
ripped
apart
sets my teeth on edge as well. I guess we all have to console
ourselves
with the idea that those parts will go on to make any number of 'not
working' sets 'perfectly good' again...although given an option, I'd
think
that an original--not cobbled together with parts from donor
sets--would
be
worth more.

jak


Lou

"JOE" wrote in message
etnews.com...


Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit
before he could disassemble it.


Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up!

Duh, go look in the mirror....your the loony tune here....




"JOE" wrote in message
news.com...


Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit
before he could disassemble it.


Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up!

"JOE" wrote in message
news.com...
Ripping apart a MINT radio (I've been watching this guy for months - he
had
a MINT SB-303 back a few months ago) is absurd.

Defend it all you like. I still think it's just plain profiteering and
destroying
a limited resource.



There seems to be a very limited resource instide your head
there Joeboy! The fact remains that these are his radios and
he can dump them in the ocean if he wants to. If he wants
to make a bit of money by taking them apart that is his choice.
Now go crawl back into your hole.





Maybe those who think this is right will allow hunting of bald eagles
too....


"Lou" wrote in message
...
And the next time you write to my personal E-MAIL, leave a valid address
for
my reply. Share your comments with the group. Yes, maybe he is trying to
put
food on his table. No one would knock him for that. Just seems a bit odd
to
tear apart "working" units. That is all I think anyone is trying to say.
There are reasons, I've had them as I've alluded to... It just seems to
by
pass common sense though - in many cases.

Lou

wrote in message
...
Parts are always worth more then the hole try buying a car a piece at
a
time.

jakdedert wrote:

Lou wrote:

Not that I agree with stripping a "working" unit apart to sell the
parts, but I have seen cases where an item was "close" to working
condition, but to put money into it to get it to work was more
expensive than had the person stripped it and sold it for parts - as
the parts for that particular unit were hard to find and not
necessarily cheap. The only time I've stripped working items to sell
parts from, is if I could not sell it whole, or it was too expensive
to ship and I found people interested in buying the parts. I did
quite well that way. Maybe this guy "feels" he can make more parting
it out than it is worth! This guy may have an axe to grind.. Maybe
he
doesn't like Ham and this is his revenge - or as another stated, his
therapy. Who knows what may be the driving force......



I can understand the emotion. Seeing something perfectly good
ripped
apart
sets my teeth on edge as well. I guess we all have to console
ourselves
with the idea that those parts will go on to make any number of 'not
working' sets 'perfectly good' again...although given an option, I'd
think
that an original--not cobbled together with parts from donor
sets--would
be
worth more.

jak


Lou

"JOE" wrote in message
etnews.com...


Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit
before he could disassemble it.


Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up!

Killing Bald Eagles is a completely different issue. We are talking old
electronic junk in whatever form it is in that is all it is period. If
you think it is something other than that then I believe you had better
get a life.

John



JOE wrote:
Ripping apart a MINT radio (I've been watching this guy for months - he had
a MINT SB-303 back a few months ago) is absurd.

Defend it all you like. I still think it's just plain profiteering and
destroying
a limited resource.

Maybe those who think this is right will allow hunting of bald eagles
too....


"Lou" wrote in message
...

And the next time you write to my personal E-MAIL, leave a valid address

for

my reply. Share your comments with the group. Yes, maybe he is trying to

put

food on his table. No one would knock him for that. Just seems a bit odd

to

tear apart "working" units. That is all I think anyone is trying to say.
There are reasons, I've had them as I've alluded to... It just seems to by
pass common sense though - in many cases.

Lou

wrote in message
...

Parts are always worth more then the hole try buying a car a piece at a
time.

jakdedert wrote:


Lou wrote:


Not that I agree with stripping a "working" unit apart to sell the
parts, but I have seen cases where an item was "close" to working
condition, but to put money into it to get it to work was more
expensive than had the person stripped it and sold it for parts - as
the parts for that particular unit were hard to find and not
necessarily cheap. The only time I've stripped working items to sell
parts from, is if I could not sell it whole, or it was too expensive
to ship and I found people interested in buying the parts. I did
quite well that way. Maybe this guy "feels" he can make more parting
it out than it is worth! This guy may have an axe to grind.. Maybe he
doesn't like Ham and this is his revenge - or as another stated, his
therapy. Who knows what may be the driving force......



I can understand the emotion. Seeing something perfectly good ripped

apart

sets my teeth on edge as well. I guess we all have to console

ourselves

with the idea that those parts will go on to make any number of 'not
working' sets 'perfectly good' again...although given an option, I'd

think

that an original--not cobbled together with parts from donor

sets--would

be

worth more.

jak



Lou

"JOE" wrote in message
ganetnews.com...


Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit
before he could disassemble it.


Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up!

"John Miller" wrote in message
...
JOE wrote:
This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs.

Etc.

Joe, let me ask you this: if by sacrificing one rig he can enable the
resurrection of a dozen Heathkits which otherwise would have been
consigned
to the scrap heap, wouldn't you think that would be a *good* thing?

That was not a rhetorical question. I'd be interested in your answser.


It would be far better to scrap out the dozen Heathkits destined for the
scrap heap, rather than part out what was described as being a
"pristine" unit earlier. It don't make any sense to part out
pristine examples, since few have survived in that condition.

BTW, 465s are a dime a dozen, not rare, and there are already
hundreds of parts units available from dealers... I doubt you would
gain financially from that venture...

Pete

I'm not a big fan of this behavior myself, BUT....

I've tried selling off my Heath HW-101 station. Works fine and decent
cosmetics. I've been unable to sell it for $225, yet I see the speaker
alone sell for about $100 and the power supply sell for $150.

If I was like this guy, I'd sell the speaker and PS, yank out the tubes
from the rig and junk it. Can't bring myself to do this so I'll keep
dragging it to junkfests.

Steve

JOE wrote in message
news.com...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=30957996 51


This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs.
"Ready
to install
part - removed from mint condition fully working rig" - words to that
effect.
I mean what the HELL? What next - buy up Collins and strip them out?? So
you
can make $40 more than the radio is worth.... it's like this guy thinks
he's clever
and come up with a 'new idea' - strip mint radios for a 25% extra profit.

Go to the link above, then click 'view sellers other auctions' - you'll
see
what I mean.

Just irritates me and I wanted to rant. I know the argument - it's his
radio and
he can sell it / chop it up as he sees fit. Yeah yeah. Still hate it.

JOE

first,

i always have to laugh at the "open forum" here. it's kinda like
christmas as a kid, for me. you expect something new, but as always, same
****, different box. save the breath on free speech, i am
done...............

i can understand joe's reaction. 'most" people who frequent this group
look at a junker radio and see what can be raised from the ashes. if you
don't, you probably don't like boatanchors. yes, we scalp "junk" to keep the
others living, however most take no pleasure in it. i, for one, am not proud
of scalping old rigs. i'd like to save them all. truth is, we can't. and if
i wish to continue to use and enjoy my heathkits, swans,
hammarlunds..................i will have to do this from time to time.

however, to take a perfectly working rig and dice it up for parts, is
absurd. i can relate with joe's comments, i love old radios. any brand. for
me, the monitary value does not matter. (flamers note: i said ME) i would
venture to say "most" hams have one piece of equipment in the station that
money simply can not buy.

yes, it is his stuff. yes, he can do whatever he wants. yes, we will not
stop it. blah blah blah.

yes, it is sad to see.

your milage may, and probably will vary.

--
73 de KU4YP Member Flying Pigs QRP
Michael Prevatt #225
Bartow, Florida Member Florida Contest Group
" Uncle Peter" wrote in message
news:rYbsc.4507$0d6.4465@lakeread03...

"John Miller" wrote in message
...
JOE wrote:
This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs.

Etc.

Joe, let me ask you this: if by sacrificing one rig he can enable the
resurrection of a dozen Heathkits which otherwise would have been
consigned
to the scrap heap, wouldn't you think that would be a *good* thing?

That was not a rhetorical question. I'd be interested in your answser.


It would be far better to scrap out the dozen Heathkits destined for the
scrap heap, rather than part out what was described as being a
"pristine" unit earlier. It don't make any sense to part out
pristine examples, since few have survived in that condition.

BTW, 465s are a dime a dozen, not rare, and there are already
hundreds of parts units available from dealers... I doubt you would
gain financially from that venture...

Pete

FWIW, we are talking about Ebay here! Does anyone actually believe that
a person is parting out a mint unit in the first place?

Ebay is the home of " I can't find a power cord, and don't know how to
hook up an antenna, so the unit is as-is" or I turned it on and the
tubes light up, but don't know how to ...yada yada.

Think about it.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Steve wrote:

I'm not a big fan of this behavior myself, BUT....

I've tried selling off my Heath HW-101 station. Works fine and decent
cosmetics. I've been unable to sell it for $225, yet I see the speaker
alone sell for about $100 and the power supply sell for $150.

If I was like this guy, I'd sell the speaker and PS, yank out the tubes
from the rig and junk it. Can't bring myself to do this so I'll keep
dragging it to junkfests.

Steve

JOE wrote in message
news.com...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=30957996 51


This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs.

"Ready

to install
part - removed from mint condition fully working rig" - words to that
effect.
I mean what the HELL? What next - buy up Collins and strip them out?? So
you
can make $40 more than the radio is worth.... it's like this guy thinks
he's clever
and come up with a 'new idea' - strip mint radios for a 25% extra profit.

Go to the link above, then click 'view sellers other auctions' - you'll

see

what I mean.

Just irritates me and I wanted to rant. I know the argument - it's his
radio and
he can sell it / chop it up as he sees fit. Yeah yeah. Still hate it.

JOE