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The ARC-5 transmitter is one of the great piece of electronics out of WWII.
As a kid, my first transmitter was an ARC-5 bought from JJ Glass of Los Angeles for about $5.95. It was brand new and a beauty to behold. Getting it working right will teach you everything that you need to know about electronics (well as of 1957 anyway). I was able to get mine to key nicely with no chirp at all. I still have a wall full of them, they are nice to look at. You should be able to find a schematic on the internet. I found that adjusting the oscillator plate voltage to the individual transmitter could help solve a lot of problems and regulated dc on the filaments does wonders, too. They will run 100 watts without too much strain, although the power supplyis often twice the size of the transmitter. But, they also run qrp on a much smaller supply and lower voltage. Have fun, Colin K7FM --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.783 / Virus Database: 529 - Release Date: 10/25/04 |
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Thanks to everyone for the encouragement. Next step is to make the conversion
to this little power supply, then tweak that oscillator plate voltage etc. and see if I can get it on the air. I have already decided not to worry about keeping this thing "original", eg. will be putting in a new power plug, key jack, and coax connector etc. I am sure I will have many more questions as I proceed and will keep you posted with the progress and inevitable mysteries that will need solving.... Why do you think the regulated dc on the filaments makes such a difference? Closer to the original battery powered situation? Would that be true for any old tube transmitter? Or because these particularly were originally designed to run on 28 volt DC. Bill, K6TAJ COLIN LAMB wrote: The ARC-5 transmitter is one of the great piece of electronics out of WWII. As a kid, my first transmitter was an ARC-5 bought from JJ Glass of Los Angeles for about $5.95. It was brand new and a beauty to behold. Getting it working right will teach you everything that you need to know about electronics (well as of 1957 anyway). I was able to get mine to key nicely with no chirp at all. I still have a wall full of them, they are nice to look at. You should be able to find a schematic on the internet. I found that adjusting the oscillator plate voltage to the individual transmitter could help solve a lot of problems and regulated dc on the filaments does wonders, too. They will run 100 watts without too much strain, although the power supplyis often twice the size of the transmitter. But, they also run qrp on a much smaller supply and lower voltage. Have fun, Colin K7FM --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.783 / Virus Database: 529 - Release Date: 10/25/04 |
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Thanks to everyone for the encouragement. Next step is to make the conversion
to this little power supply, then tweak that oscillator plate voltage etc. and see if I can get it on the air. I have already decided not to worry about keeping this thing "original", eg. will be putting in a new power plug, key jack, and coax connector etc. I am sure I will have many more questions as I proceed and will keep you posted with the progress and inevitable mysteries that will need solving.... Why do you think the regulated dc on the filaments makes such a difference? Closer to the original battery powered situation? Would that be true for any old tube transmitter? Or because these particularly were originally designed to run on 28 volt DC. Bill, K6TAJ COLIN LAMB wrote: The ARC-5 transmitter is one of the great piece of electronics out of WWII. As a kid, my first transmitter was an ARC-5 bought from JJ Glass of Los Angeles for about $5.95. It was brand new and a beauty to behold. Getting it working right will teach you everything that you need to know about electronics (well as of 1957 anyway). I was able to get mine to key nicely with no chirp at all. I still have a wall full of them, they are nice to look at. You should be able to find a schematic on the internet. I found that adjusting the oscillator plate voltage to the individual transmitter could help solve a lot of problems and regulated dc on the filaments does wonders, too. They will run 100 watts without too much strain, although the power supplyis often twice the size of the transmitter. But, they also run qrp on a much smaller supply and lower voltage. Have fun, Colin K7FM --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.783 / Virus Database: 529 - Release Date: 10/25/04 |
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why would you not need to use the Xtal to calibrate the VFO for ham use?
Bill K6TAJ wrote: Bill, There is also a tuning eye tube in back of xmtr , the Xtal and tuning eye is used to calibrate the VFO .You won`t need the Xtal or eye tube for ham use.. I used an Arc 5 about 60 years ago on 40 mtrs. I had pretty good output BUT it chirped like all crazy..there were several schemes to get the chirp out, none of them worked very well..If you can get the VFO to key without chirping it will be all OK. Good luck 73 Harold W4PQW |
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zeno wrote:
why would you not need to use the Xtal to calibrate the VFO for ham use? Bill K6TAJ On the 6-9MHz one I had many moons ago the xtal cal point was up at the top end, close to 9 MHz and didn't serve much of a purpose for exact 7 MHz calibration. Of course I was *supposed* to be using xtals as a Novice :-) It would be preferable just to accurately set the dial at 7MHz. Once its set its very accurate. Its will be as exact as you can interpolate across the little swath of the 40 CW band. -Bill |
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zeno wrote:
why would you not need to use the Xtal to calibrate the VFO for ham use? Bill K6TAJ On the 6-9MHz one I had many moons ago the xtal cal point was up at the top end, close to 9 MHz and didn't serve much of a purpose for exact 7 MHz calibration. Of course I was *supposed* to be using xtals as a Novice :-) It would be preferable just to accurately set the dial at 7MHz. Once its set its very accurate. Its will be as exact as you can interpolate across the little swath of the 40 CW band. -Bill |
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Question: "Why do you think the regulated dc on the filaments makes such a
difference? Closer to the original battery powered situation? Would that be true for any old tube transmitter? Or because these particularly were originally designed to run on 28 volt DC." The oscillator obtains feedback by tapping the cathode up on the coil. This allows the ac on the filaments to modulate the oscillator slightly. A filament winding was added to reduce this effect, but it does not. Some ARC-5s have hum modulation - especially when multiplying to 10 meters. Also, a change in filament voltage causes drift of the vfo. When we were converting these rigs 50 years ago, it was difficult to get 24 volts regulated. Today it is a snap. It may be easier to get a regulated 13.8 volts (or 12 volts or anything in between). In my early hamshack, the test for stability was to switch on the heater and listen for drift about 30 seconds later. Even the heralded SX-101 would drift mightily on 10 meters when I did that trick - until I regulated the filament voltage on the oscillator using the separate transformer that always kept the heater on. 73, Colin K7FM --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.783 / Virus Database: 529 - Release Date: 10/25/04 |
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Question: "Why do you think the regulated dc on the filaments makes such a
difference? Closer to the original battery powered situation? Would that be true for any old tube transmitter? Or because these particularly were originally designed to run on 28 volt DC." The oscillator obtains feedback by tapping the cathode up on the coil. This allows the ac on the filaments to modulate the oscillator slightly. A filament winding was added to reduce this effect, but it does not. Some ARC-5s have hum modulation - especially when multiplying to 10 meters. Also, a change in filament voltage causes drift of the vfo. When we were converting these rigs 50 years ago, it was difficult to get 24 volts regulated. Today it is a snap. It may be easier to get a regulated 13.8 volts (or 12 volts or anything in between). In my early hamshack, the test for stability was to switch on the heater and listen for drift about 30 seconds later. Even the heralded SX-101 would drift mightily on 10 meters when I did that trick - until I regulated the filament voltage on the oscillator using the separate transformer that always kept the heater on. 73, Colin K7FM --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.783 / Virus Database: 529 - Release Date: 10/25/04 |
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Nostalgia. When drafted into the Navy is 1943
my first job was setting up ARC-5 transmitters and receivers in 336 SNJ (AT-6) aircraft. (among other things) Later after the war when there wasn't much money around, I would rewind ARC-5 receivers and use them for ten-meter converters. In those days tapping on the case of just about any transmitter or receiver would produce some modulation. Except for Collins equipment. The ARC-5 VHF transmitters were truly awe inspiring when they arrived. 73s W6BWY |
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