Busted by the ShockWatch !

Same thing happend to me, several
Datapoint computers (1985)
all had been subjected to over 5g's
so we refused the shipment,
shipper had to pay big $$$ to have
new items reshipped via a competior !

Busted by the ShockWatch !

Same thing happend to me, several
Datapoint computers (1985)
all had been subjected to over 5g's
so we refused the shipment,
shipper had to pay big $$$ to have
new items reshipped via a competior !

Busted by the ShockWatch !

Same thing happend to me, several
Datapoint computers (1985)
all had been subjected to over 5g's
so we refused the shipment,
shipper had to pay big $$$ to have
new items reshipped via a competior !

(-=H=-) wrote in news:GQ73f.1$z21.0@dfw-
service2.ext.ray.com:

Hi all,

I shipped two boxes of amateur radio equipment yesterday from
Lewisville, Texas to Cooper City, Florida. As always, I used
FedEx Ground. Here's why:

Two packages:
(1) weight 33.60 lbs, size 24 x 21 x 16 inches, insured $900
(2) weight 13.95 lbs, size 22 x 22 x 14 inches, insured $100

FedEx Ground, delivery in 3 business days, cost $38.77
UPS Ground, delivery in 4-5 business days, cost $56.07

UPS would have charged $17.30 more than FedEx (that's almost
45 percent) and would have taken 1-2 days longer to arrive.
To me, $17.30 is not a trivial amount of money.

Something to think about next time you're shipping packages!

73,
Dean K5DH


It's not only cheaper to use FedEx they do a better job. We ship computer
equipment all over the USA, i.e. will build the Conquest Systems :-) The
guys at UPS kick the boxs all over, the guys at FedEx carry them. When
we used UPS about 8% where damaged on delivery with FedEx less the .01%
of .01% get damaged.


--
kla1899

Guido Sarducci from NYC wrote:


UPS uses company drivers and FedEx Home uses
subcontractors/independants so they have less
overhead, so lower fees.


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My local FedEx contractor delivers on Saturday, too.

73, Bill W6WRT

Guido Sarducci from NYC wrote:


Don't spend a lot of money on those self adhesive
ship labels, instead use regular paper and get
one of those glue sticks that the kids use at school,
that turns your plain paper label into a stick on label
for a few cents !


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If you're going to use glue sticks, test them first for water
resistance. The kind I use at work come off quite easily.

73, Bill W6WRT

Scott Dorsey wrote:


Let me also say that, from my experience, UPS and FedEx Ground break
things at about the same rate. But when FedEx damages something,
they promptly inspect it and pay out without a fuss, while UPS will
do almost anything to avoid paying insurance claims. Admittedly I
have had only three UPS issues, but all were nightmares.
--scott


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Also... never ship anything when UPS's union is in negotiations. Things
get mysteriously "damaged" in transit. Some of their drivers are
incredibly stupid if they think that helps things.

73, Bill W6WRT

Beg to differ. When I received an SP600 and cabinet from the US,
FedEx had dropped it hard enough to break the mounting screws
for the radio. It popped out of the cabinet and did the shake,
rattle roll bit. They refused to pay. Initially saying inadequate
packaging even though the person saying this had only seen the
inspection report which was not accurately filled out. The
story goes on and on. Finally I filed with small claims court and
in about a week I got a call from their lawyer wanting to settle.

When FedEx works, it works well.

Pay attention to the "small print" which you have to go find
somewhere in their website. They do NOT offer insurance on Ground.
They do offer the opportunity to increase their liability coverage for
a fee, i.e. how much you can hold them accountable for. This is
the "extra" you are paying for and is required by US law. Otherwise
they are limited to $100 liability.

Note that when you do find the relevant document (which doesn't
show up at all when you fill out the online paper work), they
exclude "antiques". Never, ever tell them you shipped a vintage radio.

bk
Agreed.

Let me also say that, from my experience, UPS and FedEx Ground break things
at about the same rate. But when FedEx damages something, they promptly
inspect it and pay out without a fuss, while UPS will do almost anything to
avoid paying insurance claims. Admittedly I have had only three UPS issues,
but all were nightmares.
--scott

Other weasel words I have seen on many company names these days.
Are LLC instead of INC or CO .... I found it to be the acronym for
Limited Liability Company. Anyone know what this means for them
to weasel out of being liable? Seems like most companies are going
to similar labels. I don't want to be liable for nothing either, but
Sheezzzz!!! Do we all expect to get shafted from every place we
do business now? Any enlightenment appreciated.
Any lawyers out there? Can they really do business and not be
responsible for the services and products they sell?

Maybe not exactly on target for boatanchors, but applicable to
all of us these days me thinks.





"Bill Kirkland" wrote in message
.. .
Beg to differ. When I received an SP600 and cabinet from the US,
FedEx had dropped it hard enough to break the mounting screws
for the radio. It popped out of the cabinet and did the shake,
rattle roll bit. They refused to pay. Initially saying inadequate
packaging even though the person saying this had only seen the
inspection report which was not accurately filled out. The
story goes on and on. Finally I filed with small claims court and
in about a week I got a call from their lawyer wanting to settle.

When FedEx works, it works well.

Pay attention to the "small print" which you have to go find
somewhere in their website. They do NOT offer insurance on Ground.
They do offer the opportunity to increase their liability coverage for
a fee, i.e. how much you can hold them accountable for. This is
the "extra" you are paying for and is required by US law. Otherwise
they are limited to $100 liability.

Note that when you do find the relevant document (which doesn't
show up at all when you fill out the online paper work), they
exclude "antiques". Never, ever tell them you shipped a vintage radio.

bk
Agreed.

Let me also say that, from my experience, UPS and FedEx Ground break
things
at about the same rate. But when FedEx damages something, they promptly
inspect it and pay out without a fuss, while UPS will do almost anything
to
avoid paying insurance claims. Admittedly I have had only three UPS
issues,
but all were nightmares.
--scott

Mr Fed UP wrote:
Other weasel words I have seen on many company names these days.
Are LLC instead of INC or CO .... I found it to be the acronym for
Limited Liability Company. Anyone know what this means for them
to weasel out of being liable? Seems like most companies are going
to similar labels. I don't want to be liable for nothing either, but
Sheezzzz!!! Do we all expect to get shafted from every place we
do business now? Any enlightenment appreciated.
Any lawyers out there? Can they really do business and not be
responsible for the services and products they sell?

You're confusing liability for damages with liability between partners
of a corporation. Same word, different context.

Here's a brief explanation taken from the web.


Liability Issues of a Limited Liability Company

In a limited liability company, a member's legal liability is limited to
his or her investment in the business. Generally, a member's personal
assets are not at risk, but a member's personal assets may be at risk if
any of the following occurs:

*
A member personally guarantees a business debt.
*
The form of business is found to be a sham (not properly formed
or maintained).
*
A member becomes personally liable as a result of his or her own
acts or conduct.


-Bill