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Ron has a good idea if the club knows about the equipment. Unfortunately,
many ham clubs are comprised of appliance operators who do not know the value nor care about the older stuff. One problem I have found is that a few hams have taken the time to write down values of equipment. But, if they do not know what they are doing, it can be a giant disappointment. I have seen in one case where an elderly ham got some prices from friends, who got it off eBay. The problem was that his stuff had sat in a moist garage and was rusty, while the pieces were valued at what a pristine and restored piece had sold for. If you are going to price it, make sure it is realistic values. Not long ago, I recall someone purchased a beautiful SX-88 on eBay for about $5,000. The purchaser wanted one and could afford it. Unfortunately, people see that and assume their ordinary and unrestored SX-88 is worth $5,000. I bought an SX-88 that had broken dials, rusty case and neede a lot of TLC. It was on the other end of the spectrum. If I did not spend so much time on the internet, I could have it restored by now. I am building a vacation home for the express purpose of sneaking a personal radio museum next to it. My plan is to store each radio, with all of the accessories and manuals together in their appropriate display area. One of the big problems I have when assisting in estates is finding power supplies, manuals, microphones and other items. Cannot tell you how many rotators I have sold without control boxes, because the family threw away the control box. Another sad story that still haunts me is when the father of a friend died with his ham gear in the basement. I valued it for estate tax purposes and sold much of it. However, there were 3 items I wanted to buy and so I left them with my friend and told him I would determine a fair price and buy them. He wanted to give them to me. They were an Elmac AF-67, new in the box, and two new gold Vibroplexes. I spent about a week deternining how much they were worth and went back to buy them. Alas, all three had been tossed in the dumpster. Now, I take the stuff first and argue about price later. 73, Colin K7FM Colin K7FM |
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COLIN LAMB wrote in message
ink.net... Ron has a good idea if the club knows about the equipment. Unfortunately, many ham clubs are comprised of appliance operators who do not know the value nor care about the older stuff. I thought we were talking about Boatanchor gear, not general everyday ham equipment... The idea for the auction wasn't about the local 2 meter ham operator club. BAs should go to a collector event. That's where the knowledgable buyers are. A bunch of 2 meter comandos wouldn't know what to do with a BA. Ron |
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![]() "COLIN LAMB" wrote in message ink.net... .... They were an Elmac AF-67, new in the box, 73, Colin K7FM Ohh I hate when that happens. Ahhh! The Icom 706 of the 50's. or... or... is the 706 the AF-67 of the nineties? I can never get that straight. (:-) 73, Steve, K,9.D;C'I |
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![]() On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Chuck Harris wrote: Smokey wrote: Thanks Colin. As is so often the case, your comments make more sense than most on this newsgroup. I should have figured that I could expect vacuous suggestions ("Did you ever think of donating to a radio club? Duh") and sarcasm not to mention the tedious stand-uyp comics (who should keep their day jobs). Jeeesh...I am NOT giving the stuff away now (hopefully I've got a lot of years left).. Nor am I interested in walking away with any money from it. Nor am I interested in one entity getting it all. I just am interested in the stuff being received by someone who will appreciate it. As for those vultures who fly around widows trying to peck them clean, I am all too aware of that situation. We as hams don't have very clean hands in that respect. We've all seen it.My whole reason for putting this posting out is to plan for something instead of my executor landfilling my good stuff. I think I am going to go about this another way because, other than your comments, most others were worthless. Smokey In spite of your attitude, I would like to put in a couple of points: we are engaged in a hobby that is rather unique. The stuff we see as valuable, most everyone else in the world sees as trash. It's a shame, but that is the way it is. We should not single ourselves out. How many people spend tons of money on antique-junk cars? Hunting guns, stamp collections, and all manner of other hobbies. They all have to deal with their collections. ===== no change to below, included for reference and context ===== If you are at all like me, the value you see in a piece is largely a result of nostalgia. In the first place, once you die, it isn't going to make any difference to you what happens to your material possessions. It should make some difference to you, before you die, knowing the degree of a mess you will be leaving behind for your spouse and heirs to clean up. About all you can do, is try and not accumulate trash, and to leave some instructions to your executor that itemize the major pieces of your collection, and assigns each piece a realistic value. Your instructions should suggest how to find likely customers for your collection, and perhaps even give the task of disposal to some willing friend. And if all your good stuff ends up in the landfill, then perhaps, it will join you in the afterlife. (eg. you can rot together ;-) -Chuck (who will be leaving behind quite a mess!) |
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![]() This kind of thing, it seems to me, might well be something the ARRL/QST should be willing to shed a little more light and help on. Anyone know if it has been suggested to ARRL to welcome, for example, at regional hamfests some kind of large auction of such gear? ===== no change to below, included for reference and context ===== On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: I am president of the Carolinas Chapter of the Antique Wireless Association. One of the services our club provides to our members and their families is the auctioning of estate collections at our annual conference in Charlotte NC. We have done a number of these over the years and so far we've gotten several times what the family thought the junque was worth. Last year there was so much stuff in the collection that we had to have 2 auctions. It took all day for seven people to load the collection in a 30 foot race car trailer and then haul it 5 hours and unload it in a warehouse. We then spent many, many hours cataloging the collection for the auction and bagging small items in zip lock bags. We then loaded it all in a u haul truck and unloaded it at the Sheraton. At the time the club only charged 5% auction fee. That's not much for all that work. It's 10% now. An auction at a radio meet is by far the best way to dispose of items like this. You may have to haul it to the site, but there's no shipping or packing involved. And it's at an event where poeple have pockets full of money and are looking for radios to buy. Unless it's really rare, early gear, most museums are not going to want it. The best thing is to get it in the hands of those that do. 73, Ron cc-awa.org |
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Straydog wrote:
This kind of thing, it seems to me, might well be something the ARRL/QST should be willing to shed a little more light and help on. Anyone know if it has been suggested to ARRL to welcome, for example, at regional hamfests some kind of large auction of such gear? Well and good but someone has to "manage" it. Their 'compensation' may come as being the guy who has first pick. In my case, if I keel over tomorrow, the XYL knows who to call to help get rid of my stuff. If Guy A doesn't want to mess with it she also knows Guy B. Anybody who has a houseload of radio junk and a family should have a clue given as to how to unload the stuff. Thats what friends are for. Same as if you have a dozen St. Bernard puppies@! Pick your best radio friend and hope he doesn't die before you. -Bill |
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