WTB a CW bug, Vibroplex or other? I am not looking for a collectors
item, I dont mind some rust and dirt, poor condition is ok. Please
email me with details and price at

Thanks, Gil n2wjw

On 4 May 2006 16:35:01 -0700, "gil" wrote:

WTB a CW bug, Vibroplex or other?

I'd wait, save a bit more money, and buy an SSB bug, myself. Why compromise? You
know you'll outgrow it in no time.

-- Larry

On 5/4/06 7:37 PM, in article ,
"pltrgyst" wrote:

On 4 May 2006 16:35:01 -0700, "gil" wrote:

WTB a CW bug, Vibroplex or other?

I'd wait, save a bit more money, and buy an SSB bug, myself. Why compromise?
You
know you'll outgrow it in no time.

-- Larry


You NEVER outgrow CW.... Unless it didn't ever fit right.

Why bother with SSB? It requires absolutely no skill and it's a lot cheaper
to pick up the phone and call a neighbor.

The fcc ham license giveaway "exam" is a joke. The new transceivers can be
operated by an imbecile monkey.

CW is all that is left of our once great hobby that requires skill,
knowledge or discipline.

Long after the whiners and creeps have removed the CW requirement from the
ham license, CW will remain in the growing cadre of landline dialups. And
real ham operators will continue to practice their craft.

Find a good bug...you'll love it and it will be your friend for your life.

Carl


"pltrgyst" wrote in message
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On 4 May 2006 16:35:01 -0700, "gil" wrote:

WTB a CW bug, Vibroplex or other?

I'd wait, save a bit more money, and buy an SSB bug, myself. Why
compromise? You
know you'll outgrow it in no time.

-- Larry

Whoosh!

Whoosh!

-- Larry

I'd wait, save a bit more money, and buy an SSB bug, myself. Why compromise? You
know you'll outgrow it in no time.

Actually... I have outgrown SSB.

Gil

" The new transceivers can be operated by an imbecile monkey."

Golly - I have trouble figuring out how to use them, with all the menus that
I have trouble reading. I lose interest before I accomplish the goal.

So, I have less ability than an imbecile monkey. Sure hope my wife does not
hear that.

I have a lot of bugs. They are nice to look at. But, my sending is crappy
on one.

Stupider than an imbecile monkey and unable to use a bug very well, I still
enjoy this hobby and have for almost 50 years.

K7FM

"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message
nk.net...
" The new transceivers can be operated by an imbecile monkey."

Golly - I have trouble figuring out how to use them, with all the menus
that I have trouble reading. I lose interest before I accomplish the
goal.

So, I have less ability than an imbecile monkey. Sure hope my wife does
not hear that.

I have a lot of bugs. They are nice to look at. But, my sending is
crappy on one.

Stupider than an imbecile monkey and unable to use a bug very well, I
still enjoy this hobby and have for almost 50 years.

K7FM



I'm not much of a code enthusiast - but I don't hate it either.... I mean
some guys love it - "I" just haven't gotten to "that" point. I'm not where
near using a bug being I don't use code often enough to be that fast to need
one. I still have an older fashioned key on my Kenwood for when I "do"
choose to do a CW contact. It works well enough for me. However - those who
have enough practice or experience to use a "bug" proficiently - well......
I've seen and heard some of those guys make them sing....... I give them
credit for taking the time to gain that speed and "fist". I could too - if I
did it often enough, but I don't. As it is, though I love ham, my operating
hours have diminished some - due to demands of life. Maybe with my newly
acquired mobile rig, I can do "some" operating on the road.

As to the new radios - the menus suck. I find that it is easier to look at
the manual - see what the buttons control - put the book down and never look
at it again. I hate those books which keep bouncing you back and forth to
try to figure out something. I've had more people bring rigs to me to
program and I tell them just forget the manual - you'll learn faster by
playing....... From a friend of mine who did Yaesu manuals for a while -
they're pretty much "canned" manuals. I told him, they have a lot to be
desired.

The one thing I do love is to create projects out of nothing - taking parts
even from scrap items and creating working items. I've built numerous items
for my test bench which has saved me oodles of time after the fact. Time is
money, and the little time it took to make them and little investment - has
helped me save more time in the long run and make more money. I owe "part"
of my career to Ham Radio. Many have gotten jobs from the Ham Radio
spectrum.

Of course - all the above is my own 2 cents. Everyone has their own and
entitled to it.

"Carl" wrote in message
...
Why bother with SSB? It requires absolutely no skill and it's a lot
cheaper
to pick up the phone and call a neighbor.

The fcc ham license giveaway "exam" is a joke. The new transceivers can be
operated by an imbecile monkey.

CW is all that is left of our once great hobby that requires skill,
knowledge or discipline.

Long after the whiners and creeps have removed the CW requirement from the
ham license, CW will remain in the growing cadre of landline dialups. And
real ham operators will continue to practice their craft.

Find a good bug...you'll love it and it will be your friend for your life.

Carl


I suppose I must have "whined" some in the 40 years that cw seemed to
have
kept me out of ham radio but, I'm proud to have my Amateur Extra licence,.as
a result of one of those "giveaway joke exams" and greatly reduced cw
requirements. I'm still struggeling with cw, but I'm enjoying fixing up
whatever old boatanchor I can find a bargain on. I hope there's some skill
in that. I doub't that I'll ever
buy one of those newfangled, do everything, radios that's smarter than I am.
CW does seem to me to be part of the heart of ham radio but some of us
aren't well wired for it.
John

JOHN D wrote:

CW does seem to me to be part of the heart of ham radio but some of us
aren't well wired for it.

I am the poster child for that. I tried for 29 years to learn morse code,
even to the point of taking a key and oscillator on the train in the morning
and talking to myself in Morse code.

I tried every possible course that I could get my hands on and none worked
until I tried Code Quick. It was the best $50 I spent on ham radio.

The fastest test I took was 13wpm, because I have difficulty writing at the
same time I copy and can't really touch type. At my peak I could copy 35wpm.

To be honest, I no longer use it and can only copy around 10 WPM now.

Geoff.

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