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Gene Rector November 1st 03 01:07 AM

Hand Held CB
 
Howdy! FRS/GMRS radios do not seem to work very well in heavily wooded areas
if you are hiking or hunting and want to keep in touch with others a mile or
so away. I was wondering if maybe hand held CB's might be a better choice
and if so, what are some that are small that would be a choice? Thanks!
Always, Gene




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Jim Hampton November 1st 03 01:58 AM

Gene,

The problem with handheld 27 MHz units is the terribly inefficient
antenna/ground combinations. Usually you are lucky to get a mile or so, but
in quiet areas (woods, not urban areas) they might work, but I doubt very
well. A 5 watt unit might do better than FRS, but you'd best seek advice
from folks that have actually used them.

One very good possibility is the use of MURS radios. They are VHF and tend
to penetrate woods better than GMRS and are much more efficient (at least
the antenna and ground are much more efficient) than 27 MHz units. They
operate with 2 watts output and will give a *much* better accounting of
themselves than 27 MHz or FRS units. They also have detachable antennas and
you can mount antennas with some gain (or at least not the big loss of the
typical rubber duck). You should get a 5 mile range or even a bit better
between MURS handhelds (assuming no hills between the units).


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim



"Gene Rector" wrote in message
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Howdy! FRS/GMRS radios do not seem to work very well in heavily wooded

areas
if you are hiking or hunting and want to keep in touch with others a mile

or
so away. I was wondering if maybe hand held CB's might be a better choice
and if so, what are some that are small that would be a choice? Thanks!
Always, Gene




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Vinnie S. November 2nd 03 01:14 AM

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:07:17 -0600, "Gene Rector" wrote:

Howdy! FRS/GMRS radios do not seem to work very well in heavily wooded areas
if you are hiking or hunting and want to keep in touch with others a mile or
so away. I was wondering if maybe hand held CB's might be a better choice
and if so, what are some that are small that would be a choice? Thanks!
Always, Gene


Not a good alternative. Much heavier, and more batteries are needed. Also, you
need an extra long antenna.

Vinnie S.

Steveo November 2nd 03 05:41 AM

Vinnie S. wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:07:17 -0600, "Gene Rector"
wrote:

Howdy! FRS/GMRS radios do not seem to work very well in heavily wooded
areas if you are hiking or hunting and want to keep in touch with others
a mile or so away. I was wondering if maybe hand held CB's might be a
better choice and if so, what are some that are small that would be a
choice? Thanks! Always, Gene


Not a good alternative. Much heavier, and more batteries are needed.
Also, you need an extra long antenna.

Vinnie S.

Or a bigger payroll. ;)

Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup November 2nd 03 05:53 AM

Steveo wrote:
Vinnie S. wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:07:17 -0600, "Gene Rector"
wrote:

Howdy! FRS/GMRS radios do not seem to work very well in heavily wooded
areas if you are hiking or hunting and want to keep in touch with others
a mile or so away. I was wondering if maybe hand held CB's might be a
better choice and if so, what are some that are small that would be a
choice? Thanks! Always, Gene


Not a good alternative. Much heavier, and more batteries are needed.
Also, you need an extra long antenna.

Vinnie S.

Or a bigger payroll. ;)



Shut your vagina, assclown.

Steveo November 2nd 03 05:54 AM

(Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup) wrote:
Steveo
wrote:
Vinnie S. wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:07:17 -0600, "Gene Rector"
wrote:

Howdy! FRS/GMRS radios do not seem to work very well in heavily
wooded areas if you are hiking or hunting and want to keep in touch
with others a mile or so away. I was wondering if maybe hand held
CB's might be a better choice and if so, what are some that are small
that would be a choice? Thanks! Always, Gene

Not a good alternative. Much heavier, and more batteries are needed.
Also, you need an extra long antenna.

Vinnie S.

Or a bigger payroll. ;)


Shut your vagina, assclown.

Make me, punk.

Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup November 2nd 03 05:59 AM

Steveo wrote:
(Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup) wrote:

Steveo
wrote:
Vinnie S. wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:07:17 -0600, "Gene Rector"
wrote:

Howdy! FRS/GMRS radios do not seem to work very well in heavily
wooded areas if you are hiking or hunting and want to keep in touch
with others a mile or so away. I was wondering if maybe hand held
CB's might be a better choice and if so, what are some that are small
that would be a choice? Thanks! Always, Gene

Not a good alternative. Much heavier, and more batteries are needed.
Also, you need an extra long antenna.

Vinnie S.

Or a bigger payroll. ;)


Shut your vagina, assclown.


Make me, punk.


Don't push your luck

Steveo November 2nd 03 06:02 AM

(Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup) wrote:
Steveo
wrote:
Shut your vagina, assclown.


Make me, punk.


Don't push your luck

Luck has nothing to do with me throwing a quick beating on you.

Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup November 2nd 03 06:06 AM

Steveo wrote:
(Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup) wrote:
Steveo
wrote:
Shut your vagina, assclown.

Make me, punk.


Don't push your luck

Luck has nothing to do with me throwing a quick beating on you.


You'd kiss me instead.

Steveo November 2nd 03 06:08 AM

(Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup) wrote:
Steveo
wrote:
(Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup)
wrote:
Steveo
wrote:
Shut your vagina, assclown.

Make me, punk.

Don't push your luck

Luck has nothing to do with me throwing a quick beating on you.


You'd kiss me instead.

You'd be humping my leg again, like you are doing now.

Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup November 2nd 03 06:12 AM

Steveo wrote:
(Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup)

wrote:
Steveo
wrote:
Shut your vagina, assclown.

Make me, punk.


Don't push your luck

Luck has nothing to do with me throwing a quick beating on you.

You'd kiss me instead.


You'd be humping my leg again, like you are doing now.


You want a shot at me, I will meet you wherever you want -- but with
one condition: first you take a picture of yourself wearing a tutu and
holding a sign that says "I AM A GAY ASSCLOWN" and post it to this
group.

Steveo November 2nd 03 06:14 AM

(Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup) wrote:
You want a shot at me, I will meet you wherever you want -- but with

one condition: first you take a picture of yourself wearing a tutu and
holding a sign that says "I AM A GAY ASSCLOWN" and post it to this
group.

Tired of jacking off to those Elton John pics?

Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup November 2nd 03 06:34 AM

(Steveo) wrote:
(Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup) wrote:
You want a shot at me, I will meet you wherever you want -- but with
one condition: first you take a picture of yourself wearing a tutu and
holding a sign that says "I AM A GAY ASSCLOWN" and post it to this
group.


Tired of jacking off to those Elton John pics?


Tired of making idle threats to give beatings?

Steveo November 2nd 03 06:46 AM

(Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup) wrote:
(Steveo) wrote:
(Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup)
wrote:
You want a shot at me, I will meet you wherever you want -- but with
one condition: first you take a picture of yourself wearing a tutu and
holding a sign that says "I AM A GAY ASSCLOWN" and post it to this
group.


Tired of jacking off to those Elton John pics?


Tired of making idle threats to give beatings?

Yes. Dogie trembles, and geo humps. What's the use anymore?

The AKC got ran out of here.

Vinnie S. November 2nd 03 02:59 PM

On 1 Nov 2003 21:53:01 -0800, (Citizens For A
Keyclown-Free Newsgroup) wrote:

Steveo
wrote:
Vinnie S. wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:07:17 -0600, "Gene Rector"
wrote:

Howdy! FRS/GMRS radios do not seem to work very well in heavily wooded
areas if you are hiking or hunting and want to keep in touch with others
a mile or so away. I was wondering if maybe hand held CB's might be a
better choice and if so, what are some that are small that would be a
choice? Thanks! Always, Gene

Not a good alternative. Much heavier, and more batteries are needed.
Also, you need an extra long antenna.

Vinnie S.

Or a bigger payroll. ;)



Shut your vagina, assclown.


Is that supposed to make me run out of this newsgroup? Is that what you want me
to do?


Vinnie S.

Vinnie S. November 2nd 03 03:04 PM

On 02 Nov 2003 05:41:56 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Vinnie S. wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:07:17 -0600, "Gene Rector"
wrote:

Howdy! FRS/GMRS radios do not seem to work very well in heavily wooded
areas if you are hiking or hunting and want to keep in touch with others
a mile or so away. I was wondering if maybe hand held CB's might be a
better choice and if so, what are some that are small that would be a
choice? Thanks! Always, Gene


Not a good alternative. Much heavier, and more batteries are needed.
Also, you need an extra long antenna.

Vinnie S.

Or a bigger payroll. ;)


Or a wheelbarrow to carry it with you. The GMRS works better in the woods, but
you need a license. The FRS works far better in late Nov after most of the
foliage is gone.

Vinnie S.


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