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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:52:58 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote in : These posts are getting too big. I did read your entire reply, and except for the parts where we found common ground, there was little content that wasn't obviously flawed. So I snipped the common ground as well as your nit-picking, blatant denials, selective snipping, and hypocritical criteria for the determination of fact: Contrary to the opinion of some, you -can- have ideals and be realistic at the same time. You just have to keep yourself balanced. It's a tough thing, when reality stomps on idealism with increasing regularity. Idealism motivates change. And things do change whether you like it or not. Whether those changes work in your favor or not is dependent upon how willing you are to accept those changes and the idealism that motivates them. Now if there is any topic you feel needs to be addressed then feel free to reply again using a -rational- argument. |
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Dave Hall wrote:
You were 10-8 and straight across my duck pluckin' end that's for cotton picken real. ;-) Dave "Sandbagger" 42, you are tree top tall and wall to wall over here, big ben. lol |
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Dave Hall wrote:
You, of all people, know what an illegal operator sounds like. Auuuuuuuddddiiiooo..auuuuuuudddddiiioooo. click click g |
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Dave Hall wrote:
verifiable traits which indicate the illegality of their transmissions. ****in' cooling fan sounds usually give me away. Dang. |
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itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote: This is a great example why the bowl is not for the weak! 42. |
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![]() "Dave Hall" wrote in message ... Ok, so if I understand you correctly, you are now making the case that I cannot identify the exact station which is creating the splatter due to the sheer number of competing stations. Ok, you have a valid point in some cases. In many cases all you have is combined "noise", and it's impossible to distinguish any one individual. BINGO!!!!! And just becuase of the sheer numbers of operators, legal or illegal the DX alone is helping intesify the splatter, because "everyone is trying to get into the feeding frenzy. On the other hand, especially on channel 6, there is always one or two stations which stand out head and shoulders above the pack. Maybe where you are, not where I live. Chaneel 17 & 19 have the most noice when skip is running. You can plainly hear his splatter on adjacent channels. Those are the guys who I base my observations on. Opinion, everyones entitled to one. Remember, I never said that *all* the stations on channel 6 are illegal, just the loud and proud ones. Then there is also the issue of aggregate signal differences. If the average noise/signal level on most of the 40 channels is running around S8, and while on channel 6, it is +10db over S9, that suggests that the average power level of the users there is at a higher level than those on the other channels. Skip doesn't favor any one channel (in a band as small as the CB band) over another so the conditions should be the same on all the channels. Dave "Sandbagger" Landshark -- __ o /' ) /' ( , __/' ) .' `; o _.-~~~~' ``---..__ .' ; _.--' b) LANDSHARK ``--...____. .' ( _. )). `-._ `\|\|\|\|)-.....___.- `-. __...--'-.'. `---......____...---`.___.'----... .' `.; `-` ` |
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![]() "Steveo" wrote in message ... Dave Hall wrote: You, of all people, know what an illegal operator sounds like. Auuuuuuuddddiiiooo..auuuuuuudddddiiioooo. click click g Careful, click click is considered amusement and you microphone would then be illegal :P Landshark -- My bad..the camera is mightier than the blowhard(s)..in most respects. |
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![]() "Twistedhed" wrote in message ... From: pam (itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge) (Twistedhed) wrote in news:24437-41E3D8B4-199 @storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net: From: pam (itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge) The Fcc requires no jury of peers. re ![]() Tell that to N3CVJ and his buddy N8WWM. Davie lobbies hard telling the world that just because the FCC told the world N8WWM was jamming repeaters, it's not evidence of guilt. It is not evidence of guilt they charged him with nothing. N3CVJ says otherwise. He said his empirical observations are evidence of guilt. and landshark said you must have a jury of your peers decide you to be guilty. Landshark is correct. However, with certain charges brought by the FCC, exceptions abound. Agreed. You have to sue the FCC to get your fined reduced or refunded back to you, that's federal justice for you. Landshark -- __ o /' ) /' ( , __/' ) .' `; o _.-~~~~' ``---..__ .' ; _.--' b) LANDSHARK ``--...____. .' ( _. )). `-._ `\|\|\|\|)-.....___.- `-. __...--'-.'. `---......____...---`.___.'----... .' `.; `-` ` |
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![]() "Dave Hall" wrote in message ... On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:48:47 GMT, "Landshark" wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 09:27:09 -0800, Frank Gilliland wrote: And until Dave can provide an example where one of the allegedly illegal operators he allegedly heard was found guilty, got an NAL, or even admitted his guilt publically, then his allegations are nothing more than his opinions, not facts. So you are of the Twisted notion that a person is not breaking the law until they are caught? Dave "Sandbagger" Nope. They are not guilty of breaking any law until a jury of their peers find them guilty with the evidence given them through the judicial process. That's complete B.S.! You are guilty of a crime the minute you commit it. Oh.... So someone is guilty automatically when YOUR trained "skills" tell you so. I can tell you have never served on a jury. The fact that in order for you to be incarcerated or otherwise punished for that crime requires a guilty verdict, does not negate your original infraction. What infraction was that? YOUR trained "skills" in traffic laws? Trained "skills" in FCC enforcement? Trained "skills" in evidence gathering, law enforcement, law? This is an excuse often given by people who try to justify their selective disregard of certain laws they don't like. Nope, that is the LAW of the land. Like it or not, you are innocent until proving guilty, otherwise it's just called vigilantism. That's why the peace officer (who is trained to observe, not JUDGE) writes the ticket, you go to COURT to fight the ticket (in front of a JUDGE, who usually is a lawyer and or has been a peace officer) if you are innocent, if not you pay the fine or do the time. Not because someone says "because they are on that channel, they must be breaking the law". No, not because they are on the channel, but because they are on the channel and displaying certain verifiable traits which indicate the illegality of their transmissions. Wow, your trained "skills" tell you by the signal, no df'ng, no power readings in front of the offenders house that he is illegal? AMAZING! Now, you have an individual, he's driving erratic, weaving in & out of traffic. You pull them over, order them out of the car, speech is slurred, they are unsteady while standing, eye lids are drooping, your trained "skills" tell you HE'S DRUNK! Arrest him, take him to jail, no blood test, no breath test, throw em into the drunk tank, right! Dave "Sandbagger" Landshark -- The world is good-natured to people who are good natured. |
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