newbie GMRS questions
 

Hello,

I've been interested for quite some time for a friend and I to get a
pair of GMRS radios - we have a pair of FRS radios, but we'd like to be
able to talk over a slightly longer distance and maybe not have so many
idiots on it lol.

I know we'd have to have a license, and I've read that it's no-test -
but how would I keep from throwing junk into the amateur GMRS repeaters
around here? I certainly wouldn't want to jam them up or anything, I
have a lot of respect - I like to use a scanner and listen to ham radio
sometimes, and hope maybe someday to get into it...

Anyways, I'd appreciate any help I can get. I was looking at a nice
3-watt pair of Cobras (Model: PR4300-2 WX VP) - any good?

Thank you in advance,
Jeff

GMRS is not Amateur radio -- it does require a license $80 -- thus will some
what keep the idiots off the band.

See URL:
http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/per...generalmobile/



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"Unigamer" wrote in message
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Hello,

I've been interested for quite some time for a friend and I to get a pair
of GMRS radios - we have a pair of FRS radios, but we'd like to be able to
talk over a slightly longer distance and maybe not have so many idiots on
it lol.

I know we'd have to have a license, and I've read that it's no-test - but
how would I keep from throwing junk into the amateur GMRS repeaters around
here? I certainly wouldn't want to jam them up or anything, I have a lot
of respect - I like to use a scanner and listen to ham radio sometimes,
and hope maybe someday to get into it...

Anyways, I'd appreciate any help I can get. I was looking at a nice 3-watt
pair of Cobras (Model: PR4300-2 WX VP) - any good?

Thank you in advance,
Jeff

Also URL:
http://www.popularwireless.com./gmrsfaqa.html

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RF Gotta Go SomeWhere



"Ether Hopper" wrote in message
news:zZpud.3589$ve.3569@fed1read06...
GMRS is not Amateur radio -- it does require a license $80 -- thus will
some what keep the idiots off the band.

See URL:
http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/per...generalmobile/



--
RF Gotta Go SomeWhere



"Unigamer" wrote in message
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Hello,

I've been interested for quite some time for a friend and I to get a pair
of GMRS radios - we have a pair of FRS radios, but we'd like to be able
to talk over a slightly longer distance and maybe not have so many idiots
on it lol.

I know we'd have to have a license, and I've read that it's no-test - but
how would I keep from throwing junk into the amateur GMRS repeaters
around here? I certainly wouldn't want to jam them up or anything, I have
a lot of respect - I like to use a scanner and listen to ham radio
sometimes, and hope maybe someday to get into it...

Anyways, I'd appreciate any help I can get. I was looking at a nice
3-watt pair of Cobras (Model: PR4300-2 WX VP) - any good?

Thank you in advance,
Jeff

Hello,

There's also the following NG:

alt.radio.gmrs

Not really active, but who knows... It has perhaps some readers.

73 de F8BOE Olivier ...-.-

Unigamer wrote:
Hello,

I've been interested for quite some time for a friend and I to get a
pair of GMRS radios - we have a pair of FRS radios, but we'd like to be
able to talk over a slightly longer distance and maybe not have so many
idiots on it lol.

I know we'd have to have a license, and I've read that it's no-test -
but how would I keep from throwing junk into the amateur GMRS repeaters
around here? I certainly wouldn't want to jam them up or anything, I
have a lot of respect - I like to use a scanner and listen to ham radio
sometimes, and hope maybe someday to get into it...

Anyways, I'd appreciate any help I can get. I was looking at a nice
3-watt pair of Cobras (Model: PR4300-2 WX VP) - any good?

Thank you in advance,
Jeff

GMRS uses FRS simplex (direct) frequencies. The only advantage to
having a GMRS setup would be the use of repeaters.

wrote in message
oups.com...
GMRS uses FRS simplex (direct) frequencies. The only advantage to
having a GMRS setup would be the use of repeaters.


GMRS is allowed up to 5 watts of transmit power,

FRS is only allowed to transmit with up to 500 milliwatts A.K.A. 1/2 watt.



MURS is probably the best choice for short-range local communications, by
Non-Hams.

No license is needed. These radios transmit with up to 2 watts, 4 times the
power of FRS radios!



(MURS) Multi-Use Radio Service Frequencies


95.632 MURS transmitter frequencies. (a) The MURS transmitter channel
frequencies are #1 - 151.820 #2 - 151.880 #3 -
151.940 #4 - 154.570 #5 - 154.600 · These frequencies
were called "dot" frequencies and had required a license to transmit. On
November 12, 2000 the FCC dropped the license requirement and opened them up
just like the FRS frequencies and CB radio. Max power on MURS is limited to
TWO watts. You will be able to talk MUCH farther with MURS radios than with
FRS radios.FRS & GMRS FREQUENCIES
NOTE: Not all FRS Manufacturer's channels correspond with one another. FRS
and GMRS Licenses may contact each other if they wish. They may share some
channels. The "private" squelch channels may not correspond either. Test
your equipment at a distance of at least 100' for compatibility. FRS
Frequencies
a.. CH01 462.5625
b.. CH02 462.5875
c.. CH03 462.6125
d.. CH04 462.6375
e.. CH05 462.6625
f.. CH06 462.6875
g.. CH07 462.7125
h.. CH08 467.5625
i.. CH09 467.5875
j.. CH10 467.6125
k.. CH11 467.6373
l.. CH12 467.6625
m.. CH13 467.8874
n.. CH14 467.7125

GMRS FREQUENCIES
GMRS Base & Mobile and Repeater Output Frequencies a.. 462.550
b.. 462.575
c.. 462.600
d.. 462.625
e.. 462.650
f.. 462.675
g.. 462.700
h.. 462.725
GMRS Repeater Input Frequencies a.. 467.550
b.. 467.575
c.. 467.600
d.. 467.625
e.. 467.650
f.. 467.675
g.. 467.700
h.. 467.725
GMRS and FRS are both citizens band allocations. GMRS is a licensed radio
service, authorizing higher power and flexibility. FRS is unlicensed, with
significant restrictions. FRS frequencies are interleaved with GMRS
frequencies. GMRS radios are also authorized to transmit on FRS channels 1
to 7 with no more than 5 watts and using 5 KHz deviation. GMRS uses 467 MHz
frequencies as repeater input channels. All FRS channels are simplex, with 3
Khz deviation and 500 milliwatts. Channel MHz Channel MHz GMRS
462.550 GMRS 467.550 FRS#1 462.5625 FRS#8 467.5625 GMRS
462.575 GMRS 467.575 FRS#2 462.5875 FRS#9 467.5875 GMRS
462.600 GMRS 467.600 FRS#3 462.6125 FRS#10 467.6125 GMRS
462.625 GMRS 467.625 FRS#4 462.6375 FRS#11 467.6375 GMRS
462.650 GMRS 467.650 FRS#5 462.6625 FRS#12 467.6625 GMRS
462.675 GMRS 467.675 FRS#6 462.6875 FRS#13 467.6875 GMRS
462.700 GMRS 467.700 FRS#7 462.7125 FRS#14 467.7125 GMRS
462.725 GMRS 467.725
Common FRS Tone Frequencies
Note- Not all FRS/GMRS radio tone channels are the same! When using "mixed"
radio types, test them with tone first, or turn tone "OFF". Tone PL
Cherokee Cobra Midland Motorola Motorola RadioShack Freq Code 465
250/300 75-510 TalkAbout Sport 106 none -- -- 0 0 0 -- -- 67.0
XZ 1 1 1 1 -- 1 69.3 WZ 2 -- -- -- -- --
9.4 -- -- -- -- -- -- 2 71.9 XA 3 2 2 2 -- 3 74.4 WA 4 3 3
3 -- 4 77.0 XB 5 4 4 4 A 5 79.7 WB 6 5 5 5 -- 6 82.5 YZ 7
6 6 6 -- 7 85.4 YA 8 7 7 7 -- 8 88.5 YB 9 8 8 8 B 9 91.5
ZZ 10 9 9 9 -- 10 94.8 ZA 11 10 10 10 -- 11 97.4 ZB 12 11
11 11 C 12 100.0 1Z 13 12 12 12 -- 13 103.5 1A 14 13 13
13 -- 14 107.2 1B 15 14 14 14 D 15 110.9 2Z 16 15 15 15 --
16 114.8 2A 17 16 16 16 -- 17 118.8 2B 18 17 17 17 E 18 123.0
3Z 19 18 18 18 -- 19 127.3 3A 20 19 19 19 F 20 131.8 3B 21
20 20 20 -- 21 136.5 4Z 22 21 21 21 G 22 141.3 4A 23 22 22
22 -- 23 146.2 4B 24 23 23 23 -- 24 151.4 5Z 25 24 24 24 --
25 156.7 5A 26 25 25 25 -- 26 159.8 -- 27 -- -- -- -- 27 162.2
5B 28 26 26 26 -- 28 165.5 -- -- -- -- -- -- 29 167.9 6Z 29
27 27 27 -- 30 171.3 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31 173.8 6A 30 28 28
28 -- 32 177.3 -- -- -- -- -- -- 33 179.9 6B 31 29 29 29 --
34 183.5 -- 32 -- -- -- -- 35 186.2 7Z 33 30 30 30 -- 36
89.9 -- 34 -- -- -- -- 37 192.8 7A 35 31 31 31 -- 38 196.6 --
36 -- -- -- -- -- 199.5 -- 37 -- -- -- -- -- 203.5 M1 38 32
32 32 -- -- 206.5 8Z 39 -- -- -- -- -- 210.7 M2 40 33 33
33 -- -- 218.1 M3 41 34 34 34 -- -- 225.7 M4 42 35 35
35 -- -- 229.1 9Z 43 -- -- -- -- -- 233.6 M5 44 36 36
36 -- -- 241.8 M6 45 37 37 37 -- -- 250.3 M7 46 38 38
38 -- -- 254.1 0Z 47 -- -- -- -- -- Ace - WH2T

The Charts I sent near the end didn't display properly.
If anyone wants them eMail me direct.
Ace - WH2T


"Dr.Ace" wh2t@NoSpam wrote in message
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GMRS uses FRS simplex (direct) frequencies. The only advantage to
having a GMRS setup would be the use of repeaters.


GMRS is allowed up to 5 watts of transmit power,

FRS is only allowed to transmit with up to 500 milliwatts A.K.A. 1/2 watt.



MURS is probably the best choice for short-range local communications, by
Non-Hams.

No license is needed. These radios transmit with up to 2 watts, 4 times
the power of FRS radios!



(MURS) Multi-Use Radio Service Frequencies


95.632 MURS transmitter frequencies. (a) The MURS transmitter channel
frequencies are #1 - 151.820 #2 - 151.880 #3 -
151.940 #4 - 154.570 #5 - 154.600 · These frequencies
were called "dot" frequencies and had required a license to transmit. On
November 12, 2000 the FCC dropped the license requirement and opened them
up just like the FRS frequencies and CB radio. Max power on MURS is
limited to TWO watts. You will be able to talk MUCH farther with MURS
radios than with FRS radios.FRS & GMRS FREQUENCIES
NOTE: Not all FRS Manufacturer's channels correspond with one another. FRS
and GMRS Licenses may contact each other if they wish. They may share some
channels. The "private" squelch channels may not correspond either. Test
your equipment at a distance of at least 100' for compatibility. FRS
Frequencies
a.. CH01 462.5625
b.. CH02 462.5875
c.. CH03 462.6125
d.. CH04 462.6375
e.. CH05 462.6625
f.. CH06 462.6875
g.. CH07 462.7125
h.. CH08 467.5625
i.. CH09 467.5875
j.. CH10 467.6125
k.. CH11 467.6373
l.. CH12 467.6625
m.. CH13 467.8874
n.. CH14 467.7125

GMRS FREQUENCIES
GMRS Base & Mobile and Repeater Output Frequencies a.. 462.550
b.. 462.575
c.. 462.600
d.. 462.625
e.. 462.650
f.. 462.675
g.. 462.700
h.. 462.725
GMRS Repeater Input Frequencies a.. 467.550
b.. 467.575
c.. 467.600
d.. 467.625
e.. 467.650
f.. 467.675
g.. 467.700
h.. 467.725
GMRS and FRS are both citizens band allocations. GMRS is a licensed radio
service, authorizing higher power and flexibility. FRS is unlicensed, with
significant restrictions. FRS frequencies are interleaved with GMRS
frequencies. GMRS radios are also authorized to transmit on FRS channels 1
to 7 with no more than 5 watts and using 5 KHz deviation. GMRS uses 467
MHz frequencies as repeater input channels. All FRS channels are simplex,
with 3 Khz deviation and 500 milliwatts. Channel MHz Channel MHz
GMRS 462.550 GMRS 467.550 FRS#1 462.5625 FRS#8 467.5625 GMRS
462.575 GMRS 467.575 FRS#2 462.5875 FRS#9 467.5875 GMRS
462.600 GMRS 467.600 FRS#3 462.6125 FRS#10 467.6125 GMRS
462.625 GMRS 467.625 FRS#4 462.6375 FRS#11 467.6375 GMRS
462.650 GMRS 467.650 FRS#5 462.6625 FRS#12 467.6625 GMRS
462.675 GMRS 467.675 FRS#6 462.6875 FRS#13 467.6875 GMRS
462.700 GMRS 467.700 FRS#7 462.7125 FRS#14 467.7125 GMRS
462.725 GMRS 467.725
Common FRS Tone Frequencies
Note- Not all FRS/GMRS radio tone channels are the same! When using
"mixed" radio types, test them with tone first, or turn tone "OFF". Tone
PL Cherokee Cobra Midland Motorola Motorola RadioShack Freq Code
465 250/300 75-510 TalkAbout Sport 106 none -- -- 0 0 0 -- --
67.0 XZ 1 1 1 1 -- 1 69.3 WZ 2 -- -- -- -- --
9.4 -- -- -- -- -- -- 2 71.9 XA 3 2 2 2 -- 3 74.4 WA 4 3
3 3 -- 4 77.0 XB 5 4 4 4 A 5 79.7 WB 6 5 5 5 -- 6 82.5 YZ
7 6 6 6 -- 7 85.4 YA 8 7 7 7 -- 8 88.5 YB 9 8 8 8 B 9
91.5 ZZ 10 9 9 9 -- 10 94.8 ZA 11 10 10 10 -- 11 97.4 ZB 12
11 11 11 C 12 100.0 1Z 13 12 12 12 -- 13 103.5 1A 14 13 13
13 -- 14 107.2 1B 15 14 14 14 D 15 110.9 2Z 16 15 15 15 --
16 114.8 2A 17 16 16 16 -- 17 118.8 2B 18 17 17 17 E 18
123.0 3Z 19 18 18 18 -- 19 127.3 3A 20 19 19 19 F 20 131.8
3B 21 20 20 20 -- 21 136.5 4Z 22 21 21 21 G 22 141.3 4A 23
22 22 22 -- 23 146.2 4B 24 23 23 23 -- 24 151.4 5Z 25 24 24
24 -- 25 156.7 5A 26 25 25 25 -- 26 159.8 -- 27 -- -- -- --
27 162.2 5B 28 26 26 26 -- 28 165.5 -- -- -- -- -- -- 29
167.9 6Z 29 27 27 27 -- 30 171.3 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31 173.8
6A 30 28 28 28 -- 32 177.3 -- -- -- -- -- -- 33 179.9 6B 31
29 29 29 -- 34 183.5 -- 32 -- -- -- -- 35 186.2 7Z 33 30 30
30 -- 36 89.9 -- 34 -- -- -- -- 37 192.8 7A 35 31 31 31 --
38 196.6 -- 36 -- -- -- -- -- 199.5 -- 37 -- -- -- -- --
203.5 M1 38 32 32 32 -- -- 206.5 8Z 39 -- -- -- -- -- 210.7
M2 40 33 33 33 -- -- 218.1 M3 41 34 34 34 -- -- 225.7 M4 42
35 35 35 -- -- 229.1 9Z 43 -- -- -- -- -- 233.6 M5 44 36 36
36 -- -- 241.8 M6 45 37 37 37 -- -- 250.3 M7 46 38 38
8 -- -- 254.1 0Z 47 -- -- -- -- -- Ace - WH2T

5 w, big deal...if you want to run higher power, get a ham license or a
commercial repeater, etc.

Don't get caught by Riley and Co.!

No, just saying be careful!