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Ever since I was a kid, I wanted to be a ham. I could never learn the
code. It seems I have a very difficult time memorizing. I didn't know my
multipication table until 8th grade. But somehow I managed to get a
master's degree in EE and worked as a consultant on a satellite at MIT.
Yes, it's still working after 10 years.

Now that all the bands will be available to me, I can finally become a
ham.

Oh, and to those who think the waves will be flooded with idiots. Don't
worry. After all this never happened to the tech band as far as I know.

Al

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Al ) writes:
Ever since I was a kid, I wanted to be a ham. I could never learn the
code. It seems I have a very difficult time memorizing. I didn't know my
multipication table until 8th grade. But somehow I managed to get a
master's degree in EE and worked as a consultant on a satellite at MIT.
Yes, it's still working after 10 years.

But of course, your problem was in thinking you needed to memorize
the code. What you should have been doing is listening to the code
sent at high speed, actually the characters at high speed with lots of
spacing betweent he characters so the overall speed is slow, so you hear
the sounds of each individual character, rather than a set of dots
and dashes. You never go near a code key until you can receive properly,
and you basically toss out all those alphabet to code charts.

Just think of all the time you could have had if you'd stuck with it
as a kid, rather than thinking it was a matter of memorizing the code,
and then thinking you had problems memorizing things.

Learning morse code when I was 12 was one of the easiest things I
ever did, and the only reason I waited till 12 was that before that
there was a rule in Canada that said you had to be over 15 to get
a ham license.

I should also point out that rec.radio.shortwave is not about amateur
radio. It's about reception, and only when someone is talking about
listening to the amateur bands does amateur radio really become on-topic
here. The fact that some decide to spew their junk out of the
rec.radio.amateur.* hierarchy here does not make amateur radio on topic.

Michael

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Michael Black wrote:
Al ) writes:
Ever since I was a kid, I wanted to be a ham. I could never learn the
code. It seems I have a very difficult time memorizing. I didn't know my
multipication table until 8th grade. But somehow I managed to get a
master's degree in EE and worked as a consultant on a satellite at MIT.
Yes, it's still working after 10 years.

But of course, your problem was in thinking you needed to memorize
the code. What you should have been doing is listening to the code
sent at high speed, actually the characters at high speed with lots of
spacing betweent he characters so the overall speed is slow, so you hear
the sounds of each individual character, rather than a set of dots
and dashes. You never go near a code key until you can receive properly,
and you basically toss out all those alphabet to code charts.

Just think of all the time you could have had if you'd stuck with it
as a kid, rather than thinking it was a matter of memorizing the code,
and then thinking you had problems memorizing things.

Learning morse code when I was 12 was one of the easiest things I
ever did, and the only reason I waited till 12 was that before that
there was a rule in Canada that said you had to be over 15 to get
a ham license.

I should also point out that rec.radio.shortwave is not about amateur
radio. It's about reception, and only when someone is talking about
listening to the amateur bands does amateur radio really become on-topic
here. The fact that some decide to spew their junk out of the
rec.radio.amateur.* hierarchy here does not make amateur radio on topic.

Michael

Some people never learned the code because they are lazy. Some were
afraid of the very idea of learning the code and never tried. And there
were some who really DID try to learn the code, but for some reason were
not able to. It is a fact that some people just CAN'T learn another
language. (I for one barely got through French in High School). I DID
manage to learn to copy code up to about 15 wpm though. I jealous of
those people that make 45 wpm copy look easy! Maybe it's easier if you
start real young (just as with piano lessons).

I have a good friend that I meet though a mutual interest in model
railroading. He also attends most hamfests. He was a CB type, wanted
to get a ham ticket, but the code was a roadblock. He eventually got a
code-free tech license. (he also eventually, learned the code, just
enough to gain Novice privileges).

So don't downgrade people for not being able to learn the code. It CAN
be a real roadblock for some people.

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Please folks, do not reply to these off topic posts.

If these idiots never get any replies, they will eventually give up
and go away.

Thanks,

Bill, W6WRT

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(Michael Black) wrote:

Al ) writes:
Ever since I was a kid, I wanted to be a ham. I could never learn the
code. It seems I have a very difficult time memorizing. I didn't know my
multipication table until 8th grade. But somehow I managed to get a
master's degree in EE and worked as a consultant on a satellite at MIT.
Yes, it's still working after 10 years.

But of course, your problem was in thinking you needed to memorize
the code. What you should have been doing is listening to the code
sent at high speed, actually the characters at high speed with lots of
spacing betweent he characters so the overall speed is slow, so you hear
the sounds of each individual character, rather than a set of dots
and dashes. You never go near a code key until you can receive properly,
and you basically toss out all those alphabet to code charts.

Just think of all the time you could have had if you'd stuck with it
as a kid, rather than thinking it was a matter of memorizing the code,
and then thinking you had problems memorizing things.

Learning morse code when I was 12 was one of the easiest things I
ever did, and the only reason I waited till 12 was that before that
there was a rule in Canada that said you had to be over 15 to get
a ham license.

I should also point out that rec.radio.shortwave is not about amateur
radio. It's about reception, and only when someone is talking about
listening to the amateur bands does amateur radio really become on-topic
here. The fact that some decide to spew their junk out of the
rec.radio.amateur.* hierarchy here does not make amateur radio on topic.

Michael


I thought rec was short for "recreation."

Al

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Bill Turner wrote:
Please folks, do not reply to these off topic posts.

If these idiots never get any replies, they will eventually give up
and go away.

Thanks,

Bill, W6WRT

Andy writes:
Does that include the reply which is presented above ? :)))))

No matter. All these idiots, including myself, and you, are
having fun and we post here because none of us, including
myself, and you, have anything more important in our lives
to do....

73s
Andy W4OAH

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Bill Turner wrote in
:

Please folks, do not reply to these off topic posts.

If these idiots never get any replies, they will eventually give up
and go away.


There you go again!

buh-bye!

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

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"Al" wrote in message
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Ever since I was a kid, I wanted to be a ham. I could never learn the
code. It seems I have a very difficult time memorizing. I didn't know my
multipication table until 8th grade. But somehow I managed to get a
master's degree in EE and worked as a consultant on a satellite at MIT.
Yes, it's still working after 10 years.

Now that all the bands will be available to me, I can finally become a
ham.

Oh, and to those who think the waves will be flooded with idiots. Don't
worry. After all this never happened to the tech band as far as I know.

Al

I know exactly how you feel. I was interested in ham radio since my early
teens. I tried learning the code severel times over the years. There are
always those who will say you didn't try hard enough, or you used the wrong
method, or you didn't care, or you wern't dedicated enough. There is more to
life than studying CW. I'm not a EE but I made a living as a electronic tech
for 36 years. In retirement I finally learned enough code to barely pass the
test. I went to the testing session prepared to pass the tech test. I got a
general class licence from that session. 5 more correct answers and I would
have been a extra. Three weeks later I passed the extra test. The elmer who
introduced me to amateur radio 40 years ago is probable long dead. It would
be nice to tell him I finally made it. I still don't know the multipication
tables. The end of CW testing is long overdue. You will be an asset to
amateur radio.
John

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Bill, W Q R P in Cincinnati . Your A Moron. Does It really hurt when you
think? Maybe you should go see the Doctor. Help for you is just a door away
open it walk through and Don't let it hit you in the A$$ xx I mean Head on
the way out.

My Name is Bill and , My name is Bill and, I think My Name is Bill and , I
think My Name is Bill and , They told Me that My Name is Bill and , Duh
your Bill right




"Bill Turner" wrote in message
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Please folks, do not reply to these off topic posts.

If these idiots never get any replies, they will eventually give up
and go away.

Thanks,

Bill, W6WRT

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On Feb 20, 5:34 pm, "JIM" wrote:
Bill, W Q R P in Cincinnati . Your A Moron. Does It really hurt when you
think? Maybe you should go see the Doctor. Help for you is just a door away
open it walk through and Don't let it hit you in the A$$ xx I mean Head on
the way out.

My Name is Bill and , My name is Bill and, I think My Name is Bill and , I
think My Name is Bill and , They told Me that My Name is Bill and , Duh
your Bill right

"Bill Turner" wrote in message

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If these idiots never get any replies, they will eventually give up
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Thanks,

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Why must people flame and call names? Bill Turner is technically
correct, although severe. Al's post is off topic, but it is polite
and sane. He shows no sign of being an "idiot" or jerk. An off topic
post like that perhaps should be handled by giving a few polite
answers, reminding that it is off topic, then dropping the subject.
On topic now, I suggest to those that believe that they cannot learn
code learn it anyway. There will still be code on the air, at least
for a time. Take your short-wave sets and listen to it. I disagree
that you should not memorize code. Learn the "A" is .- ; "B" is -...;
etc. There are only 26 characters plus ten numbers, and a few
punctuation characters. Man, if you can get a Master's in EE which
requires advanced mathematics with all the associated arcane symbolism
then you can memorize a little code. Of course, by counting dots and
dashes you'll never get past a few wpm, but you continue to listen to
faster and faster code, and as was mentioned above listen to
characters played very fast but with wide spacing, which will help you
to learn by pattern recognition. When you master that, you will
listen to code as a sort of "language".

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On Feb 20, 5:34 pm, "JIM" wrote:
Bill, W Q R P in Cincinnati . Your A Moron. Does It really hurt when you
think? Maybe you should go see the Doctor. Help for you is just a door
away
open it walk through and Don't let it hit you in the A$$ xx I mean Head
on
the way out.

My Name is Bill and , My name is Bill and, I think My Name is Bill and ,
I
think My Name is Bill and , They told Me that My Name is Bill and , Duh
your Bill right

"Bill Turner" wrote in message

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Please folks, do not reply to these off topic posts.

If these idiots never get any replies, they will eventually give up
and go away.

Thanks,

Bill, W6WRT- Hide quoted text -

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Why must people flame and call names? Bill Turner is technically
correct, although severe. Al's post is off topic, but it is polite
and sane. He shows no sign of being an "idiot" or jerk. An off topic
post like that perhaps should be handled by giving a few polite
answers, reminding that it is off topic, then dropping the subject.
On topic now, I suggest to those that believe that they cannot learn
code learn it anyway. There will still be code on the air, at least
for a time. Take your short-wave sets and listen to it. I disagree
that you should not memorize code. Learn the "A" is .- ; "B" is -...;
etc. There are only 26 characters plus ten numbers, and a few
punctuation characters. Man, if you can get a Master's in EE which
requires advanced mathematics with all the associated arcane symbolism
then you can memorize a little code. Of course, by counting dots and
dashes you'll never get past a few wpm, but you continue to listen to
faster and faster code, and as was mentioned above listen to
characters played very fast but with wide spacing, which will help you
to learn by pattern recognition. When you master that, you will
listen to code as a sort of "language".


Anyway you can do 5wpm is a good way. Once you get on the air it will
improve though you may find you are re-learning it every time you make a
significant speed increase but you will get there.

Jimmie.