Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Old November 13th 03, 10:15 PM
Joel Kolstad
 
Posts: n/a
Default AM receiver filter characteristics

For a direct conversion AM receiver for the commercial broadcast band
(550-1710kHz), could someone suggest appropriate low pass filter
specifications? I'm looking at a standard (cheap) superhet receiver with a
two stage transformer coupled IF amplifier/filter, and then end up with a
bandwidth of +/3kHz (around 455kHz). Hence, this would be equivalent to a
4th order filter with a corner frequency of 3kHz -- correct? I was thinking
I'd need somewhat more aggressive (but wider) filtering than this (more like
an 8th order filter with a corner at 5kHz).

If a commercial AM station is transmitting at, say, 550kHz, is it a safe bet
that the FCC wouldn't have stuck another reasonably powerful station at
560kHz, the next 'channel', in the same geographic location? That they'd at
least wait until 570kHz to do so? Historically I would think they'd have
had to do so in order to allow these simple IF transformer coupled
amps/filters to perform satisfactorily.

Thanks,
---Joel Kolstad


  #2   Report Post  
Old November 14th 03, 12:21 AM
R J Carpenter
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Joel Kolstad" wrote in message
...

If a commercial AM station is transmitting at, say, 550kHz, is it a safe

bet
that the FCC wouldn't have stuck another reasonably powerful station at
560kHz, the next 'channel', in the same geographic location? That they'd

at
least wait until 570kHz to do so? Historically I would think they'd have
had to do so in order to allow these simple IF transformer coupled
amps/filters to perform satisfactorily.


You won't find stations closer than 40 (sometimes 30) kHz "in the same
town". Rimshot stations are often closer spaced. However at night you have
long distance ionospheric propagation. At night, most stations are only
protected to the contour where their signal and the signal 10 kHz away are
EQUAL. What signal level this is differs by class of station and also
stations can accept worse. IIRC, some may not be protected beyond their 25
mV/m contour at night. 2.5 or 5 mV/m is more common. Pretty much all bets
are off for stations on the graveyard channels of 1230, 1240, 1340, 1400,
1450 and 1490.

The FCC never allocated on the basis of the worst possible receiver. Super
el cheapo radios may well have trouble within the "interference-free"
contour.


  #3   Report Post  
Old November 14th 03, 12:21 AM
R J Carpenter
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Joel Kolstad" wrote in message
...

If a commercial AM station is transmitting at, say, 550kHz, is it a safe

bet
that the FCC wouldn't have stuck another reasonably powerful station at
560kHz, the next 'channel', in the same geographic location? That they'd

at
least wait until 570kHz to do so? Historically I would think they'd have
had to do so in order to allow these simple IF transformer coupled
amps/filters to perform satisfactorily.


You won't find stations closer than 40 (sometimes 30) kHz "in the same
town". Rimshot stations are often closer spaced. However at night you have
long distance ionospheric propagation. At night, most stations are only
protected to the contour where their signal and the signal 10 kHz away are
EQUAL. What signal level this is differs by class of station and also
stations can accept worse. IIRC, some may not be protected beyond their 25
mV/m contour at night. 2.5 or 5 mV/m is more common. Pretty much all bets
are off for stations on the graveyard channels of 1230, 1240, 1340, 1400,
1450 and 1490.

The FCC never allocated on the basis of the worst possible receiver. Super
el cheapo radios may well have trouble within the "interference-free"
contour.


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Collins 51j-4 Receiver Filter Replacemt/Bypass Boatanchors 0 October 11th 03 11:34 AM
Collins 51j-4 Receiver Filter Replacemt/Bypass Boatanchors 0 October 11th 03 11:34 AM
Review: Ramsey HFRC-1 WWV receiver kit Tim Shoppa Equipment 4 September 8th 03 04:20 AM
Review: Ramsey HFRC-1 WWV receiver kit Tim Shoppa Homebrew 2 September 7th 03 03:45 PM
Review: Ramsey HFRC-1 WWV receiver kit Tim Shoppa Equipment 0 September 6th 03 09:52 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:59 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 RadioBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Radio"

 

Copyright © 2017