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Airy R.Bean wrote:
You behave like a 5-year-old. Your postings on USENET were completely different from the drivel you post now... what happened, Gareth? Tell Doctor Hully... -- huLLy VOIP SIP Phone Number 4823176 on Global Village Or +44 8703 408916 to my VOIP line email (Loon reports welcome) http://www.giganews.com/customer/gn119503 |
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"Airy R.Bean" wrote:
: What is Ham Radio? : : Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who : are interested in the science of radio wave : propagation and who are also interested in the : way that their radios function. It has a long-standing : tradition of providing a source of engineers who : are born naturals. : : Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life : fascination with all things technical and gives : an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific : knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in! : sort of correct. but thanks the certain organisations..and a bunch of lazy people it no longer exists. it has however been replaced by multi-band cb radio |
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Fine, so it's a technical hobby that requires some aptitude and an interest
in one or more facets of the hobby/technical pursuit. I may be more towards to the technical side of the hobby and have an interest in restoration of old boatanchors but there are many other areas of interest. If a licensed amateur is interested in contesting/collecting squares, ragchewing, homebrewing raynet or even trying something new why not just let them get on with it. Garath has a bad attitude mainly directed at anyone without a Morse test, more a case of "I spent 10 long years learning the code, it was hard work so why should they get HF by just passing the RAE." Morse is a fantastic mode for DX and weak signal working breaking down the language barrier and allowing for very simple homebrew but is not a suitable or appropriate qualification for access to HF (the requirement for Morse was due to the shared bands to enable the primary user the facility to tell us to QSY, no longer necessary). We all have our personal views regarding the qualifications that should be required, usually the skill level of the individual expressing the view, in your case Walt probably 30 wpm+. My view is that a higher level of RAE pass mark should be required but that again is just a personal view. Don't deride the amateurs, deride the system if need be but blind insults towards a licence "CLASS" are out of order and to coin a phrase from Garth are not in keeping with the gentlemanly traditions of amateur radio. RRH "Walt Davidson" wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 00:57:10 -0000, "real-radio-ham" wrote: Don't you ever change the record, amateur radio is what you make it, it's only a hobby. CB is only a hobby. Amateur radio is much more than a hobby. It is a technical pursuit for people interested in and capable of lifelong learning and self-development. That excludes the vast majority of CBers, at a stroke. 73 de G3NYY -- Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @despammed.com |
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:47:03 -0000, "real-radio-ham"
wrote: Morse is a fantastic mode for DX and weak signal working breaking down the language barrier and allowing for very simple homebrew but is not a suitable or appropriate qualification for access to HF ... Perhaps not, but it was very effective in keeping CB-ers and other feckless yobs off the HF bands. 18.25x4 de Jock. -- XXX Olympiad, Paris, 2012. |
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Doesn't it say in the licence conditions that the licence is for the self
learning of the licensee? or are you saying that everybody should know absolutely everything about radio before you can even get a licence? Didn't you also learn about radio! "Airy R.Bean" wrote in message ... What is Ham Radio? Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who are interested in the science of radio wave propagation and who are also interested in the way that their radios function. It has a long-standing tradition of providing a source of engineers who are born naturals. Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life fascination with all things technical and gives an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in! This excitement causes a wish to share the experience with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio. Radio Hams are qualified to design, build and then operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this with gusto, and also repair and modify their own equipment. The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with the latter that communication with like-minded technically motivated people takes off. The scope for technical development grows with the years and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal of excitement in the areas of computer programming to be learnt and applied. The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing, competitions and fox-hunts. -----ooooo---- However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a desirable thing to have that there are large numbers of people who wish to be thought of as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing of the kind! Usually such people are a variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their radios off the shelf and send them back to be repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how their radios work inside and have no wish to find out; they are free with rather silly personal insults; they have not satisfied any technical qualification and their licences prevent the use of self-designed-and-built equipment. These CB types engage in the competitive activities with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams. No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people! |
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"real-radio-ham" wrote:
: individual expressing the view, in your case Walt probably 30 wpm+. My : view is that a higher level of RAE pass mark should be required but that : again is just a personal view. Don't deride the amateurs, deride the system as i said before on this newsgroup. the poor m3 candidate is ''taught'' and then fed to the cannons in some sort of ''pump-em-out'' activity to flood amateur radio with raw-green-beginners in some sort effort that apparently is to lower the standard and to turn 7mhz into 27mhz. these unfortunates are then faced with the views of those who know that the system sucks. these people being those who are not beholding to a system that requires an rsgb instructor to sign a piece of paper before they can get a licence. but as i sad before, m3's themselves should shout for a higher standard. as i said before...the system is being run by people who refused to recognise the morse test but now force every candidate to do the morse assessment! thats a double-standard if ever there was one. |
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HYPOCRISY that has arisen from INSECURITY?
"ZZZPK http://dataglobe.hu/skyguru " .es.it.net wrote in message ... as i said before...the system is being run by people who refused to recognise the morse test but now force every candidate to do the morse assessment! |
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Sussed it 'They' like to be thought of as 'special. I am a radio amateur. I
am special. Then loads of other people realise, there not so special after all, anyone can do it! As there are now a 'new' breed of sharing radio amateurs, who after years of secrecy are willing to break ranks and tell the less fortunate, the radio secrets. Show them how easy it is to start on the path, to be a radio amateur. The new interested party's take some 'tests' and find them so easy, that they all pass. They are 'baby' radio amateurs, the idea is they learn as they go, pass exams and eventually become full licence radio amateurs. The old school will never accept it. Who likes to work and pay for something, then see some one else get it for less? No one its not human nature. The Masons will never think the Buffaloes are up to being Masons. If they dropped all the secrets and made it easy for them to get in. There would always be a section who moaned about it. Even if the Buffaloes brought in loads of funds, did loads of good work. They would always be 2'nd class Masons. (To the Masons) The rest of the world don't give a fig! The older radio amateurs would like to stay special, the elite. Then someone decided they had been top of the class long enough. The Ofcom and RSGB are both business, businesses can't afford to be choosy with there clients, can they? If radio amateur numbers had not increased and they had not received more revenue. It wouldn't have paid its way, eventually they could have sold it off. The CB 'licence holders' carried it for years, there numbers paid for the rest of the 'hobby' radio spectrum. Now that's going, this is another way of getting the hobby radio users paying for our bit of the radio spectrum. If we cant pay for it they will sell it some one else, because to them, its not personal, its only business. |
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wrote in message
... Sussed it 'They' like to be thought of as 'special. I am a radio amateur. I am special. Then loads of other people realise, there not so special after all, anyone can do it! As there are now a 'new' breed of sharing radio amateurs, who after years of secrecy are willing to break ranks and tell the less fortunate, the radio secrets. Show them how easy it is to start on the path, to be a radio amateur. The new interested party's take some 'tests' and find them so easy, that they all pass. They are 'baby' radio amateurs, the idea is they learn as they go, pass exams and eventually become full licence radio amateurs. Good description. The bit you missed is that those who always seem to rant about how hard it used to be are usually the least technically able. The old school will never accept it. Who likes to work and pay for something, then see some one else get it for less? No one its not human nature. The Masons will never think the Buffaloes are up to being Masons. If they dropped all the secrets and made it easy for them to get in. There would always be a section who moaned about it. Even if the Buffaloes brought in loads of funds, did loads of good work. They would always be 2'nd class Masons. (To the Masons) First time I've heard that expressed. There are actually a whole range of such organisations, Round Table, Rotary, Loins, Odd Fellows, Ancient Order of Forresters, Masons (mainstream, female, and mixed), ........ All no doubt some members each of will think 'their's is the best', truth is, most are much the same and many have surprisingly similar aims. At the end of the day, if you find one you enjoy then it is the best for you. The rest of the world don't give a fig! But some decide to make an issue of it. -- Brian Reay www.g8osn.org.uk www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk FP#898 |
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Well, you used to rant on about the 12WPM Morse test, and just
consider the areas in which you are not technically able..... You suggested that resistors were polarised,..... that motion was possible without power transmission,..... that e^(-jwt) was a function that decreased with increasing t,..... that ever larger negative numbers were decreasing in size,..... that Reg Varney the comic actor was G5RV,..... referred to the posited Pederson Rays as, "Peterson Rays",..... displayed amazing ignorance about Eddystone receivers,..... spent 15 months in this NG promoting your sexual perversion with sheep shagging,..... were too lazy or too stupid, or both, to be able to tackle and pass a 12 WPM Morse Test that otherwise-unqualified self-taught 14-year-olds were taking in their stride,..... despite _TWO DEGREES_, one of them in _ELECTRONICS_, didn't know how to design a common collector stage to give a power gain..... don't know what a woodpecker is..... doesn't understand vectors..... finds it hard to fit an N-plug..... "Brian Reay" wrote in message ... Good description. The bit you missed is that those who always seem to rant about how hard it used to be are usually the least technically able. |
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