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Old November 25th 05, 07:51 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
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On 2005-11-24, John Larkin wrote:
I know a guy who uses surface-mount resistors as explosive detonators.


I understand you can place a row of surface-mount capacitors along the
edge of a board so they will be scraped off by any accidental contact
with nearby sheetmetal.

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Old November 25th 05, 09:43 AM posted to de.sci.electronics,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.components,sci.electronics.design
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 18:49:24 -0500, Jon Yaeger wrote:

Take apart a couple of D cell carbon-zinc batteries.

Wash off the carbon rods. Put each in a wooden clothes pin and connect the
attached ends to the mains voltage (US customers only, please).

Tap the free ends of the rods together. Move them apart as necessary. Very
bright! Much brighter than you are.


One of the MIT EE course videos on the web shows a demonstration of AC
across a pickle... it is an interesting effect. Not sure how the pickle
tastes afterward. Cooking hotdogs with AC is similar, but the pickle gives
off a much nicer translucent flickering glow. Very pretty.

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Regards,
Bob Monsen

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mathematics remains open; we do not know in what direction it will find its
final solution or even whether a final objective answer can be expected at
all. "Mathematizing" may well be a creative activity of man, like language
or music, of primary originality, whose historical decisions defy complete
objective rationalization.
- Hermann Weyl in 1944
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Old November 25th 05, 10:07 AM posted to de.sci.electronics,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.components,sci.electronics.design
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John Larkin wrote:

TO-220 bipolar transistors make nice temperature sensors.


I like that trick. Esp the isolated tab type.

Graham

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Old November 25th 05, 10:46 AM posted to de.sci.electronics,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.components,sci.electronics.design
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Roy Lewallen wrote:
Zener diodes work fine as varicaps, at least at HF. The lower the
zener voltage and higher the power dissipation rating, the higher the
C. As someone else mentioned, transistor emitter-base junctions can
be used as either zeners (typical zener voltage around 5 volts) or
varicaps.
A zener can be used as a broadband noise source. I've had the best
luck with zeners of 10 - 15 volt breakdown, with around 100 uA
current. Some are noisier than others, and they often have a critical
current where the noise is the greatest.

Tektronix used selected transistors to generate high voltage (~100
volts) fast steps (~100 ps rise time if I recall correctly) by
avalanching the collector. Some fraction of some common transistor
types worked satisfactorily in this application.

1N914 type diodes can be used as step recovery diodes to generate a
step with about a ns risetime -- maybe faster with a chip component
and some care. This could be the basis of a broadband harmonic
generator.
Roy Lewallen, W7EL


At a leading Ultrasonic flaw detector company we used simple low frequency
Motorola sot23 transistors in avalance mode for making a nice pulse
generator for 100MHz probes. These were better than the Zetex avalance
specified transistors.
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Old November 25th 05, 10:52 AM posted to de.sci.electronics,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.components,sci.electronics.design
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"Henry Kiefer" wrote in message
...

Do you know of other interesting devices or circuits good for misuse?


LED's work both ways, as a light emitter and a photodiode.

The inbuilt colour filter can be used to distinguish between Grass and Not
grass f.ex. by comparing output from a red and a green LED using white light
as illumination.

Back when fiber was ex$$$pensive one often saw clever circuitry using two
transmitters to form a duplex connection over a single fiber.

The USD 10 solar powered garden lamps will, with a little persuation, yield
a nice solar cell well below the price of a similar unit in the shops -
and - two 600 mAh NiMh batteries and a grotty circuit for switching the LED.




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ehsjr writes:
Henry Kiefer wrote:
Do you know of other interesting devices or circuits good for misuse?
Best regards -
Henry


An LED as a shunt regulator. Also, as a varicap.
Ed


Also a photodetector that is insensitive to long wavelengths (because
of the high bandgap).


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(not x-posted)

Besides the already mentioned reverse-polarized diodes as varicaps
(http://www.hanssummers.com/radio/varicap/index.htm), I use 74HC240 as
HF QRP finals (600mW) and IRF510 as HF PA (20-30W max, QST has some
articles in the past).

Paolo IK1ZYW
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Besides the already mentioned reverse-polarized diodes as varicaps
(http://www.hanssummers.com/radio/varicap/index.htm), I use 74HC240 as HF
QRP finals (600mW) and IRF510 as HF PA (20-30W max, QST has some articles
in the past).

Paolo IK1ZYW


TL-431 Shunt regulator as a low powered fixed gain 3 terminal audio
amplifier.

W4ZCB


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John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 18:30:06 +0100, Jorgen Lund-Nielsen
wrote:


Henry Kiefer wrote:

Hi all -

After my first thread going from "standard" cheap parts for up to vhf
frequency to a discussion about the usefulness of Spice simulator...... I
try it another time hopefully get attention of frustrated co-readers:

For example the rechtifier diode 1N4007 can be used as a rf switching diode,
for example as rx/tx-switch. This is because it is a pin structure diode.
This type is cheap and you can get it almost everywhere. It shows good
performance for the price. Surely for high-end you should do it with another
type tuned to the application it is made for. But anyway it works in some
circuits.

Do you know of other interesting devices or circuits good for misuse?

Best regards -
Henry


Tuner Switching Diodes like the european BA244 (NOT PIN-Diodes!) work
well as medium fast Step Recovery Diodes.



Tell me about it. I tried some pins to see if they would snap, and
they turn out to have incredibly mushy reverse recovery, Slop Recovery
Diodes.

I'll have to try the varicaps.

John


Hello John,

I wrote: NOT PIN - Diodes - as they wouldn't snap.

i mean Band Switching diodes for TV-Tuners like the BA244 and the BA682.

BA682 Datasheet:

http://www.vishay.com/docs/85530/85530.pdf

- and they snap! Try it!

Jorgen
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Ban wrote:

Roy Lewallen wrote:

Zener diodes work fine as varicaps, at least at HF. The lower the
zener voltage and higher the power dissipation rating, the higher the
C. As someone else mentioned, transistor emitter-base junctions can
be used as either zeners (typical zener voltage around 5 volts) or
varicaps.
A zener can be used as a broadband noise source. I've had the best
luck with zeners of 10 - 15 volt breakdown, with around 100 uA
current. Some are noisier than others, and they often have a critical
current where the noise is the greatest.

Tektronix used selected transistors to generate high voltage (~100
volts) fast steps (~100 ps rise time if I recall correctly) by
avalanching the collector. Some fraction of some common transistor
types worked satisfactorily in this application.

1N914 type diodes can be used as step recovery diodes to generate a
step with about a ns risetime -- maybe faster with a chip component
and some care. This could be the basis of a broadband harmonic
generator.
Roy Lewallen, W7EL



At a leading Ultrasonic flaw detector company we used simple low frequency
Motorola sot23 transistors in avalance mode for making a nice pulse
generator for 100MHz probes. These were better than the Zetex avalance
specified transistors.


2N2369 for fast pulses.
2N2222 and even 2N2219 works, but a bit slower and they requiring more
voltage to avalance, but still 1nS rt
The Zetex are slower but can deliver much more current (up to 60A, ZTX
415 family).

Jorgen



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