Jim, remove my name and prediction from this list.

Kim W5TIT


"N2EY" wrote in message
...
Here's an update on various estimates of when Morse code testing will be
eliminated in the US. Note that four predicted dates are in the past.

WA2SI: September 13, 2003
KF6TPT: September 29, 2003
KC8EPO: December 31, 2003
K2UNK: January 1, 2004
K2ASP: March 15, 2004
AA2QA: April 1, 2004
N2EY: April 15, 2004
N3KIP: May 1, 2004
KC8PMX: July 1, 2004
WA2ISE: August 1, 2004
K3LT: September 15, 2004
WK3C: December 30, 2004
N8UZE: July 1, 2005
KB3EIA: July 5, 2007 ("minimum 4 years from date of requirement drop")

K0HB: January 1, 2011 (first date not in "this decade")

Closest date (before or after) wins. Anyone else?

73 de Jim, N2EY

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
N2EY wrote:
In article k.net,
"KØHB"
writes:


"Dave Heil" wrote


Why do you persist in changing Jim's posts and re-posting with no
indication that you're changing them?

Because she feels like it. I don't think she needs a reason beyond
that.


Do you think it's her right to misattribute?

Do you think it's her right to change quoted posts with no indication of
having
done so?

Do you think it's her right to end a post with someone else's typical
signature?

Jim is apparently trying to make a point about Kim's call sign, which he
and
many of us think borders on 'tacky'. That's his right.


To be exact, I think the callsign she chose for herself is inappropriate
for
the amateur radio service. I agree with Riley's evaluation of it. But I
have
tried not
to make a big deal about the issue.

I cannot control what others put in their postings here, but I *can*
control
what I post, and so certain inappropriate words and phrases are edited
out by
me. The editing is done in accordance with Usenet and email standards. I
try to
always be clear what words were written by the original author and what
words
were not.

I found it amusing that other posters who "had a problem" with Kim's
choice of
callsign wrote many, many postings containing that callsign, therefore
giving
it
far more visibility than it would otherwise get.


Kim is apparently trying to make a point about Jim. That's her right.


Do you think it's her right to misattribute?

Nope

Do you think it's her right to change quoted posts with no indication of
having
done so?


Nope


Do you think it's her right to end a post with someone else's typical
signature?


Nope



Never mind that they both remind me of the 'church lady', and I think
that
they and you are acting like sanctimonious twits. That's my right.


"Well, isn't that special?" ;-)

YMMV. That's your right.


It's surreal to note that Kim's alteration of quotes raises far, far
less
comment and condemnation than my omission of her callsign. In fact, I've
been
omitting it for many months and no one has noticed until now.

I did, but saw no need to comment until the mis-attribute letter came
along.


Of all the people who post here, Kim always struck me as the one who
would
*least* need to have her status as a radio amateur (or her status as
anything
else) validated, endorsed, supported or otherwise patronized by me. Or
by
anyone else.

I'm sometimes electro-politically incorrect. That's not going to change.
Deal
with it.

But I don't misattribute and then say the header should make it clear.

Most of her posts have the correct attributes (or is that
attributification) 8^) How this message became "different" is a mystery.
Maybe it was an accident, maybe it was not. Heck if I did that, I'd send
out an "oops" at least.

- Mike KB3EIA -




It was not an "oops" at all, Mike. I've noticed before that Jim sends that
list out without my callsign associated with it. I consider that my
prediction is probably among the most accurate of the predictions that have
a true "pulse" on amateur radio--REGARDLESS of the callsign of *any* chosen
ham.

Jim is disrespectful to me to make it look like I am not an amateur when he
chooses not to associate me as an amateur when I've made a conscious
decision to participate in something he's providing for fun. I
deliberately, with no malice, and consciously deleted the attributes of the
original message simply to include my callsign in the list.

I don't give a hoot if you, the Usenet police, Jim, or any other person has
a problem with that.

I've requested that Jim just plain remove my name and prediction from the
list. If he cannot accept me as an amateur radio operator, equal in every
way but license class to any other amateur, then I deliberately, with no
malice, and respectfully abstain from regarding *him* at all.

Kim W5TIT

"KØHB" wrote in message
k.net...
Here's an update on various estimates of when Morse code testing will be
eliminated in the US. Note that four predicted dates are in the past.

WA2SI: September 13, 2003
KF6TPT: September 29, 2003
KC8EPO: December 31, 2003
K2UNK: January 1, 2004
K2ASP: March 15, 2004
AA2QA: April 1, 2004
N2EY: April 15, 2004
N3KIP: May 1, 2004
KC8PMX: July 1, 2004
WA2ISE: August 1, 2004
K3LT: September 15, 2004
WK3C: December 30, 2004
N8UZE: July 1, 2005
KB3EIA: July 5, 2007 ("minimum 4 years from date of requirement drop")
K0HB: January 1, 3000 (first date not in "this millenium")

Closest date (before or after) wins. Anyone else?

73 de Jim, N2EY



Kim W5TIT

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
Here's an update on various estimates of when Morse code testing will be
eliminated in the US. Note that four predicted dates are in the past.

Egbert: September 13, 2003
Jeff: September 29, 2003
Leroy: December 31, 2003
Bill: January 1, 2004
Phil: March 15, 2004
Jim H: April 1, 2004
Jim M: April 15, 2004
Alun: May 1, 2004
Ryan: July 1, 2004
Robert: August 1, 2004
Larry: September 15, 2004
Charles: December 30, 2004
Dee: July 1, 2005
Mike: July 5, 2007 ("minimum 4 years from date of requirement drop")

Hans: January 1, 3000 (first date not in "this millenium")


Closest date (before or after) wins. Anyone else?


Howzat?

- Mike KB3EIA -


Kim W5TIT

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
et...
Bert Craig wrote:

Hey Mike,

My friends call me Bert. Only Len calls me Egbert. (Who said he doesn't
know
his place?) ;-)

oops, Sorry, Bert! I wasn't sure who everyone was by callsign, so I
looked it up on arr.org.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Mike, nice of ya....but just leave me off...

Kim W5TIT

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
et...
Bert Craig wrote:

Hey Mike,

My friends call me Bert. Only Len calls me Egbert. (Who said he doesn't
know
his place?) ;-)

oops, Sorry, Bert! I wasn't sure who everyone was by callsign, so I
looked it up on arr.org.

- Mike KB3EIA -

It's all good, my friend. :-)

73 de Bert
WA2SI

All the talk about dumbing down and we get a thread with nothing to do
with radio at all. Dumb on...

Bert Craig wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
et...

Bert Craig wrote:


Hey Mike,

My friends call me Bert. Only Len calls me Egbert. (Who said he doesn't

know

his place?) ;-)

oops, Sorry, Bert! I wasn't sure who everyone was by callsign, so I
looked it up on arr.org.

- Mike KB3EIA -


It's all good, my friend. :-)

73 de Bert
WA2SI

In article t, "KØHB"
writes:

K0HB: January 1, 3000 (first date not in "this millenium")

I can put you down for that date, Hans. However, note that the "first date not
in 'this millenium' is January 1, 3001 - because there was no year 0 in our
calendar.

73 de Jim, N2EY

In article , "Kim"
writes:

Jim is disrespectful to me to make it look like I am not an amateur when he
chooses not to associate me as an amateur when I've made a conscious
decision to participate in something he's providing for fun.

There was no disrespect intended, Kim. If you feel disrespected that's your
perception, not my intent.

I deliberately, with no malice, and consciously deleted the attributes of the
original message simply to include my callsign in the list.

At first, you simply changed the quoted text *without* changing the symbols,
so it looked like I wrote something I did not write. I chalked that one up to
a simple typo and said nothing.

Then, you peeled off *all* the symbols, including the one by my
signature line, so it looked like I had signed a post you made.

I don't give a hoot if you, the Usenet police, Jim, or any other person has
a problem with that.

If you do not respect Usenet conventions, why should anyone respect
your desire to have your callsign included? You want respect that
you do not give others.

I've requested that Jim just plain remove my name and prediction from the
list.

Done. No problem.

If he cannot accept me as an amateur radio operator, equal in every
way but license class to any other amateur, then I deliberately, with no
malice, and respectfully abstain from regarding *him* at all.

I have *always* accepted you as an amateur radio operator, Kim. But
I do not post your callsign because I think you made an inappropriate
choice.

But we hams are not "equal in every way but license class". Each of us
is better at some things than others. I'm sure there are things involving
amateur radio that you're better at than me, and there are probably things
involving amateur radio that I'm better at than you. So we are not equal in
every way but license class.

I did not include your callsign in the list because I think that your choice
of callsign (even though it's legal) is inappropriate to the amateur radio
service. You *chose* that callsign, and the FCC would not have issued it
sequentially.

The fact that something is legal does not make it appropriate to do, or
in the best interests of all concerned.

73 de Jim, N2EY

"N2EY" wrote

However, note that the "first date not
in 'this millenium' is January 1, 3001.

You're mistaken Jim, but I don't want to carry on another pointless argument
with you for the next 996 years, so just forget it.

With all kind wishes for Y3K,

de Hans, K0HB