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The BPL of rrap
Now taking nominations for the "BPL" of rrap!
The successful candidate will be capable of keeping up a virtual S9 group noise level. Who will it be???? - Mike KB3EIA - |
In article , Mike Coslo writes:
Now taking nominations for the "BPL" of rrap! The successful candidate will be capable of keeping up a virtual S9 group noise level. Who will it be???? It's definitely a four-way tie between Kim, Lennie, Brian, and Dwight! 73 de Larry, K3LT |
"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
... In article , Mike Coslo writes: Now taking nominations for the "BPL" of rrap! The successful candidate will be capable of keeping up a virtual S9 group noise level. Who will it be???? It's definitely a four-way tie between Kim, Lennie, Brian, and Dwight! 73 de Larry, K3LT Oh, yeah. Now, there's some intellect for ya... Kim W5TIT |
"Kim W5TIT" wrote:
Oh, yeah. Now, there's some intellect for ya... Did you notice anything noteworthy about this thread, Kim? It mainly consists of those like Larry (the pro-code troublemakers) maliciously nominating people without code skills. These guys, specifically Larry, claim the no-code crowd is always the ones attacking them, while they're simply defending themselves with the rhetoric they spew. Instead, what is seen here is an example of the real truth - Larry and his ilk targeting specific people in the hopes of dragging them into an argument and the no-code crowd not nominating anyone in the hopes of avoiding an argument. It does say a lot about the character of the two groups, doesn't it? Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ |
"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
.. . "Kim W5TIT" wrote: Oh, yeah. Now, there's some intellect for ya... Did you notice anything noteworthy about this thread, Kim? It mainly consists of those like Larry (the pro-code troublemakers) maliciously nominating people without code skills. These guys, specifically Larry, claim the no-code crowd is always the ones attacking them, while they're simply defending themselves with the rhetoric they spew. Instead, what is seen here is an example of the real truth - Larry and his ilk targeting specific people in the hopes of dragging them into an argument and the no-code crowd not nominating anyone in the hopes of avoiding an argument. It does say a lot about the character of the two groups, doesn't it? Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ Yep. You got it... Kim W5TIT |
(Brian) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com... (Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com... Mike Coslo wrote in message ... Well...You KNOW who I nominate: For his pages long recitings of his CV... For his frequent retelling of how he "worked DX" in a 1950's-era Army radio station... What would you call long distance communications? Closed circuit communications. "Working DX" is an Amateur term, applied to Amateur practice, involving radio communication between Amateur Radio stations. His Army nets worked specific stations on specific frequencies at specific times with overwhelming power and resources. An idiot could complete a contact with that much power...Ooooops...an idiot DID complete those contacts...forgive me... For his frequent demeaning of not only individual Amateurs, but of the Amateur Service as a whole... I'm an individual amateur and a member of the ARS as a whole. I don't "feel" demeaned. There is some truth in Len's observation of the ARS. Accept it. There's very LITTLE truth. And you're one of those who, just like Lennie, demonstrate a very poor understanding of those same Amateur practices, so I am very UNIMPRESSED about how you feel about his sleights. For his frequent attempts to associate himself with Soldiers who died in combat for the purpose of improving his own "reputation"... If you served, you are associated with soldiers who died in combat. That's just the way it is, and no amaount of running away from it will disassociate you from them. Yet there are those who never served and claim "military experience." That is disgusting. Many of my fellow Marines have fallen in combat. That is true. I honor them and wish they never had to be called upon to make that sacrifice, but they did. UNLIKE Lennie, however, I have never tried to link myself to those Marines (or any other servicemember, for that matter) in such a way as to insinuate that I was somehow part and parcel of that sacrifice for my own benefit or "reputation". THAT is disgusting. BTW, other than Mark Morgan, to WHOM do you refer as "never served"...The nature of just about everyone's (regulars, that is...) military or government service here is well documented. For countless lies, mistruths (especially that one about "get my Extra Lite out of the box...) and use of profanity and insults... We have all desired things which we have not achieved. Ahhhhhh....too true. But then none of us here have "not achieved" anything for which we were so otherwise eminently qualified, now have we...?!?! Of if anyone has, they are not making an issue of it! The envelope pleeeeeeease! (drom roll ensuses....) Leonard H. "Lennie the Liar" Anderson! Respectfully submitted, Obviously disrespectfully submitted. How "obviously"..?!?! Is anything I said untrue...?!?! Steve, K4YZ At least you didn't start a new thread over it. Nope...someone else did...But JUST FOR YOU, Brain, I started another one with yet another unravelling of your Rear Area War Hero's rants...That being how allegedly "unimportant" Amateur Radio is in the overall scheme of the radio world. Seems he doesn't have the full appreciation of the pulse of the radio world as he alledges...Not that any of "us" didn't know already. Steve, K4YZ |
"Steve Robeson, K4CAP" wrote:
(snip) Furthermore, it is the "no code" crowd (really only two or three people) who keep making "code testing" debates out of EVERY subject brought to this forum. For example, NO ONE who is "pro code" made an issue of the code at all. We simply (and so far accurately) pointed out the rantings of a few. Steve, you obviously didn't notice that the people Larry nominated are those he most often targets with his code debate ramblings. By mentioning those people here, his ultimate goal was to bring that debate here. After all, the main reason he disagrees with those people, hence his nomination here, is their opposition to his position on code. Therefore, any response to his nomination of those people had to include something about the code debate. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ |
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Brian) wrote in message . com... (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com... (Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com... Mike Coslo wrote in message ... Well...You KNOW who I nominate: For his pages long recitings of his CV... For his frequent retelling of how he "worked DX" in a 1950's-era Army radio station... What would you call long distance communications? Closed circuit communications. "Working DX" is an Amateur term, No, it isn't. It has application is other radio services, used as Len described. applied to Amateur practice, involving radio communication between Amateur Radio stations. His Army nets worked specific stations on specific frequencies at specific times with overwhelming power and resources. An idiot could complete a contact with that much power...Ooooops...an idiot DID complete those contacts...forgive me... Now you're calling DoD communications idiotic? You really don't like the military much, do you? Why would you want Army communications to get through only some of the time? Have you never heard of "Peace through superior firepower?" For his frequent demeaning of not only individual Amateurs, but of the Amateur Service as a whole... I'm an individual amateur and a member of the ARS as a whole. I don't "feel" demeaned. There is some truth in Len's observation of the ARS. Accept it. There's very LITTLE truth. There's more there than you want to admit. And you're one of those who, just like Lennie, demonstrate a very poor understanding of those same Amateur practices, so I am very UNIMPRESSED about how you feel about his sleights. You are singularly unimpressive. For his frequent attempts to associate himself with Soldiers who died in combat for the purpose of improving his own "reputation"... If you served, you are associated with soldiers who died in combat. That's just the way it is, and no amaount of running away from it will disassociate you from them. Yet there are those who never served and claim "military experience." That is disgusting. Many of my fellow Marines have fallen in combat. That is true. I honor them and wish they never had to be called upon to make that sacrifice, but they did. And I would assume that some have fallen since your departure as well. UNLIKE Lennie, however, I have never tried to link myself to those Marines (or any other servicemember, for that matter) in such a way as to insinuate that I was somehow part and parcel of that sacrifice for my own benefit or "reputation". THAT is disgusting. Why do you continually distance yourself from your military heritage? BTW, other than Mark Morgan, to WHOM do you refer as "never served"...The nature of just about everyone's (regulars, that is...) military or government service here is well documented. Brian Kelly/W3RV. For countless lies, mistruths (especially that one about "get my Extra Lite out of the box...) and use of profanity and insults... We have all desired things which we have not achieved. Ahhhhhh....too true. But then none of us here have "not achieved" anything for which we were so otherwise eminently qualified, now have we...?!?! Of if anyone has, they are not making an issue of it! Point. The envelope pleeeeeeease! (drom roll ensuses....) Leonard H. "Lennie the Liar" Anderson! Respectfully submitted, Obviously disrespectfully submitted. How "obviously"..?!?! Is anything I said untrue...?!?! Amazingly, everyone has their own version of "the truth." Yet, truth and disrespect are not the same thing. Steve, K4YZ At least you didn't start a new thread over it. Nope...someone else did...But JUST FOR YOU, Brain, I started another one with yet another unravelling of your Rear Area War Hero's rants...That being how allegedly "unimportant" Amateur Radio is in the overall scheme of the radio world. Congratulations. You are so easy to manipulate. Seems he doesn't have the full appreciation of the pulse of the radio world as he alledges...Not that any of "us" didn't know already. Steve, K4YZ What did he say that was untrue? |
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(Brian) writes: (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message .com... (Brian) wrote in message .com... (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message .com... (Brian Kelly) wrote in message .com... Mike Coslo wrote in message ... Well...You KNOW who I nominate: For his pages long recitings of his CV... For his frequent retelling of how he "worked DX" in a 1950's-era Army radio station... What would you call long distance communications? Closed circuit communications. "Working DX" is an Amateur term, No, it isn't. It has application is other radio services, used as Len described. Brian, go easy on Steamy. He doesn't know about all the hundreds of communication carrier companies that were doing point-to-point radio communications before he was born. He doesn't know that militaries around the world were using radio for primary long-distance communications before he was born. He just doesn't know. "DX" as a term/phrase, came from commercial communications folks standing for "distance." It used a very long time ago as a kind of morse code shorthand. Steamy just doesn't know about that. applied to Amateur practice, involving radio communication between Amateur Radio stations. His Army nets worked specific stations on specific frequencies at specific times with overwhelming power and resources. An idiot could complete a contact with that much power...Ooooops...an idiot DID complete those contacts...forgive me... Now you're calling DoD communications idiotic? You really don't like the military much, do you? Steamy never did any communications while in the military...other than talking on the telephone. :-) Why would you want Army communications to get through only some of the time? It's painfully obvious, Brian. Steamy hates me. I served in the US Army so, naturally to him, anything Army is subject to hatred, villification, and denigration. Steamy never did any primary communications while in the USMC. Naturally he resents that anyone else did. Steamy cannot possibly understand the importance of primary comm needs of an area command or that it must continue to be available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, all year long. Back before the DSN and optical fiber lines and communications satellites, the primary long- distance communication medium was HF radio. Army radio ADA served the all-branch Far East Command in the early 1950s and never failed...even during a 3-hour solar flare in 1955 that disrupted the longest circuites...the shorter ones continued to operate uninterrupted. "Overwhelming power" must be the 4 KW PEP Western Electric LD-T2, all of 6 db higher than maximum legal US amateur RF output. It could be the old Press Wireless 15 KW CW (but always used FSK TTY), the 40 KW Collins-made AN/FRT-22 didn't arrive until 1955. All that plus a small airfield containing the wire antennas helped "Get The Message Through" 24/7. The thousands who were assigned to ADA didn't have much choice but to make sure the communications got through. It did. Have you never heard of "Peace through superior firepower?" Steamy can only think of the hymnal about Montezuma and Tripoli. Steamy is a mighty macho marine morseman, far superior to ordinary folk. He is a regular Atilla the Ham. :-) For his frequent demeaning of not only individual Amateurs, but of the Amateur Service as a whole... I'm an individual amateur and a member of the ARS as a whole. I don't "feel" demeaned. There is some truth in Len's observation of the ARS. Accept it. There's very LITTLE truth. There's more there than you want to admit. Steamy can't handle real truth. And you're one of those who, just like Lennie, demonstrate a very poor understanding of those same Amateur practices, so I am very UNIMPRESSED about how you feel about his sleights. You are singularly unimpressive. Steamy is louder than any BPL QRM in here. :-) For his frequent attempts to associate himself with Soldiers who died in combat for the purpose of improving his own "reputation"... If you served, you are associated with soldiers who died in combat. That's just the way it is, and no amaount of running away from it will disassociate you from them. Yet there are those who never served and claim "military experience." That is disgusting. Many of my fellow Marines have fallen in combat. That is true. I honor them and wish they never had to be called upon to make that sacrifice, but they did. And I would assume that some have fallen since your departure as well. Some of them probably fell while staggering back from the NCO club. UNLIKE Lennie, however, I have never tried to link myself to those Marines (or any other servicemember, for that matter) in such a way as to insinuate that I was somehow part and parcel of that sacrifice for my own benefit or "reputation". THAT is disgusting. Why do you continually distance yourself from your military heritage? Steamy is hell bent on doing anything he can to say bad things about his "enemies." He tries to turn around statements I say so that they are pejoratives. Fact is, long ago I served in the US Army and was assigned to a Signal Battalion that had 19 casualties (all killed) on July 1, 1950, in Korea. They and the four USAF crew members were on a TDY under direct orders from General MacArthur's headquarters to help improve the communications in Korea during the first two weeks of the Korean War. In the next six years there would be four more members of that Signal Battalion who became casualties of the Korean War and the Korean Truce (which is still in effect, the War never being officially over). I've stood retreat for those 19 and the billet where I was in for nearly two years was renamed for one of the casualties, Cpl Elmer Hardy. Hardy Barracks still exists today in Tokyo, much reduced in size, but still holding the offices of the Pacific Stars & Stripes military newspaper. Steamy's concept of "honor" only applies to whatever and whomever He "honors." He cannot comprehend anyone else honoring their old military unit or even knowing details of that unit. Such seems to be an abomination with him. Steamy, and some others, are resentful and some probably envious that anyone else had any primary communications tasks over HF a half century ago. He still lives in a fantasy world of amateurism where ONLY amateur radio has "conquered" HF and ALL radio communications is rated and gauged by amateur recreational and hobby activities on HF radio. That is a terribly elitist...and very false...viewpoint. All it shows is his ignorance of the larger world of commercial and government radio. Steamy can't admit to such ignorance. To do so would be to "lose face" and he would disgrace his personal opinion by such admission. He MUST keep up the image of the "expert," the "pioneer of HF radio" through amateurism of the 1930s. Such is a substitute for his terminated military career. He glories in the rank, status, privilege of amateur extra and looks down on all not achieving his personal stature...typical of those who have not achieved much rank, status, or privileges in real life. I will be glad and honored to link my name with my old Signal Battalion anytime, anywhere. That Battalion still exists in spirit today as the 78th Signal Service Battalion, Camp Zama, Japan, under the command of the 516th Signal Brigade headquartered at Fort Shafter, Hawaii, and attached to the US Army Pacific as its main communications provider. The envelope pleeeeeeease! (drom roll ensuses....) Leonard H. "Lennie the Liar" Anderson! Respectfully submitted, Obviously disrespectfully submitted. How "obviously"..?!?! Is anything I said untrue...?!?! Amazingly, everyone has their own version of "the truth." Yet, truth and disrespect are not the same thing. Steamy has his Fantasy. He can change the "truth" in that Fantasy to be whatever he wants. It pleasures him greatly to heap abuse on those who have made it in the real world and done more than he was able to do. Steve, K4YZ At least you didn't start a new thread over it. Nope...someone else did...But JUST FOR YOU, Brain, I started another one with yet another unravelling of your Rear Area War Hero's rants...That being how allegedly "unimportant" Amateur Radio is in the overall scheme of the radio world. Congratulations. You are so easy to manipulate. Heh heh...Steamy still hasn't given any details of his own claims to honor and glory of "seven hostile actions." He never will. :-) Seems he doesn't have the full appreciation of the pulse of the radio world as he alledges...Not that any of "us" didn't know already. Steve, K4YZ What did he say that was untrue? Steamy is still wrapped up in his Fantasy. I've had a full working career in radio-electronics and that is archived in records other than "Google." My military record is archived at NARA in St. Louis and Eugene Rosenbaum, N2JTV, served in my Signal Battalion at the same time I did. Gene is also in retirement from a career at FAA but very much alive. My colleague at Rocketdyne and manager at RCA is Jim Hall, KD6JG. A good friend is Al Walston, W6MJN, who was Best Man at my wedding. I've been in contact with Jim Brendage, a civilian engineer at ADA and a former USAF NCO who served at ADA's old transmitter site after the USAF took over all HF comm in 1963. The callsign of the US Army Pacific Headquarters (Hawaii) is still ADA. According to Steamy, all those statements are "lies." Despite their real world existance, Steamy doesn't want to admit their truth. He calls anything I say a "lie." It's just not worth it to attempt discussion with a psychotic. Some else in here who used to quote an old baseball player is fond of repeating "It ain't braggin' if ya done it." I did it. I don't have to brag. Leonard H. Anderson retired (from regular hours) electronic engineer person |
Dwight Stewart wrote:
Steve, you obviously didn't notice that the people Larry nominated are those he most often targets with his code debate ramblings. By mentioning those people here, his ultimate goal was to bring that debate here. After all, the main reason he disagrees with those people, hence his nomination here, is their opposition to his position on code. Therefore, any response to his nomination of those people had to include something about the code debate. Well, Dwight, you can nominate Larry if you like! It's a free group, and this little bit of fun is open to anyone. Do you want to nominate him? Besides, we have all NCT's nominated already, so some others need nominated. - Mike KB3EIA - |
Brian wrote:
There's more there than you want to admit. Brian, we intend to have the debates *after* the nominations are closed. Do you have a nomination? We have to try to keep up with California. - Mike KB3EIA - |
"Mike Coslo" wrote:
(snip) We have to try to keep up with California. Have you noticed even the press has had a hard time keeping a straight face when talking about the California recall vote? First, we have a midget who insists he's the protest vote. Then, we have oversized guy who still can't say his name properly after living in the country for decades. And then we have a cross-dresser certain to bring a new sense of fashion consciousness to the job. And we can go on and on. This is turning out to be one of the wackiest elections I've ever seen. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ |
Dwight Stewart wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote: (snip) We have to try to keep up with California. Have you noticed even the press has had a hard time keeping a straight face when talking about the California recall vote? First, we have a midget who insists he's the protest vote. Then, we have oversized guy who still can't say his name properly after living in the country for decades. And then we have a cross-dresser certain to bring a new sense of fashion consciousness to the job. And we can go on and on. This is turning out to be one of the wackiest elections I've ever seen. This is something no one wins. First we have a power grab by the Repub's who have figured out that in any election, it will be possible to get enough names on a petition to force a recall. I hope they realize they opend a Pandora's box, and for what? Governing a state that they were partially involved in making a major mess? They are so desperate to get someone in office, that they are trying to elect a Republican who is more like a Democrat than anything else. The Dems, instead of fielding a smart team in case the recalll comes, have put together a list of clowns that are a true embarassment to democracy, leaving the one serious contender with the election plan from hell, that is to vote for no recall, but vote for me in case there is. To think that the next Gov. there might be elected with only a few percent of the vote. Makes me proud I'm a registered Independent. I wonder if there is going to be a recall on the governer elected in the recall vote... if there is a recall.... - Mike KB3EIA - |
In article , Dwight Stewart
writes: Have you noticed even the press has had a hard time keeping a straight face when talking about the California recall vote? First, we have a midget who insists he's the protest vote. Then, we have oversized guy who still can't say his name properly after living in the country for decades. And then we have a cross-dresser certain to bring a new sense of fashion consciousness to the job. And we can go on and on. This is turning out to be one of the wackiest elections I've ever seen. Dwight: As it happens, Ahnold Schwartzenegger may be the best choice to be the next Governor of Cally-Forney-Ah. While he does espouse some political idealogy more in line with liberals than most Republicans would care for, he doesn't see the answer to everything to be raising taxes and expanding government. All the "whacky" candidates are on the ballot simply to grab their 15 minutes; Ahnold (that's MISTER Schwartzenegger to you) actually has a good chance of being elected if Gov. Davis is, in fact, recalled. 73 de Larry, K3LT |
In article , Dwight Stewart
writes: Steve, you obviously didn't notice that the people Larry nominated are those he most often targets with his code debate ramblings. By mentioning those people here, his ultimate goal was to bring that debate here. After all, the main reason he disagrees with those people, hence his nomination here, is their opposition to his position on code. Therefore, any response to his nomination of those people had to include something about the code debate. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) Dwight: Don't look now, but this ENTIRE newsgroup is a place where the code/no-code debate is on-topic, all day, 24/7/365. In each and every thread created, there can, and most likely will, be content related to the code test debate. BTW, I have no problem with the fact that there are people who oppose my position on code testing. What I do have a problem with are people like you who obviously can't handle any kind of disagreement, and want to get people like me to shut up so you can exist in a totally uncomplicated, unchallenged environment. If you don't like it, you know what to do, and watch out for that door! 73 de Larry, K3LT |
In article , Mike Coslo writes:
Dwight Stewart wrote: "Mike Coslo" wrote: (snip) We have to try to keep up with California. Have you noticed even the press has had a hard time keeping a straight face when talking about the California recall vote? First, we have a midget who insists he's the protest vote. Then, we have oversized guy who still can't say his name properly after living in the country for decades. And then we have a cross-dresser certain to bring a new sense of fashion consciousness to the job. And we can go on and on. This is turning out to be one of the wackiest elections I've ever seen. This is something no one wins. First we have a power grab by the Repub's who have figured out that in any election, it will be possible to get enough names on a petition to force a recall. I hope they realize they opend a Pandora's box, and for what? Governing a state that they were partially involved in making a major mess? They are so desperate to get someone in office, that they are trying to elect a Republican who is more like a Democrat than anything else. The special election in regards to recalling the Governor of the state of California has nothing whatsoever to do with amateur radio. If you are not a registered voter in California, then you have no cause to carry on as if you were nor have you any authority whatsoever on California politics. One of the accepted candidates for the ballot in the special election in California is a Grass Valley resident, Jim Weir. Jim Weir has posted in here a few times. Ask him if his candidacy has anything to do with amateur radio policy. LHA |
"Len Over 21" wrote:
The special election in regards to recalling the Governor of the state of California has nothing whatsoever to do with amateur radio. (snip) Since when is that a major concern? Read back over this newsgroup. During the last presidential election, several thousand messages were posted on that subject alone. In fact, just about every major event happening in the world recently has been discussed in this newsgroup at some point (and more than a few minor events). The California recall vote is certainly not going to be an exception to that. If you are not a registered voter in California, then you have no cause to carry on as if you were nor have you any authority whatsoever on California politics. Nonsense. What happens in this country, anywhere in this country, is of interest to any American. What happens in California, or any other state, has an impact on the rest of the nation. So, while it is true those outside the state don't vote in California, that clearly doesn't prevent them from commenting on the subject. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ |
"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote:
As it happens, Ahnold Schwartzenegger may be the best choice to be the next Governor of Cally-Forney-Ah. While he does espouse some political idealogy more in line with liberals than most Republicans would care for, he doesn't see the answer to everything to be raising taxes and expanding government. (snip) Why does that not surprise me one little bit, Larry? Arnold seems to fit right into your concepts of conservatism - liberal on most issues with enough conservative rhetoric to make him the least objectionable candidate. If conservatives aren't willing to vote conservative, no wonder conservative issues are slowly losing ground in this country. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ |
"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote:
Don't look now, but this ENTIRE newsgroup is a place where the code/no-code debate is on-topic, all day, 24/7/365. Tell it to Steve. He was the one complained about that, not me. What I do have a problem with are people like you who obviously can't handle any kind of disagreement (snip) First, there isn't any real disagreement - only your endless rhetoric about a subject (code testing) that is quickly dying. Second, I have no problems with a simple disagreement, just a problem with those who don't know how to disagree in a civilized manner. You, Larry, either never knew how to disagree in a civilized manner or have lost sight of that ability. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ |
In article , Dwight Stewart
writes: "Len Over 21" wrote: The special election in regards to recalling the Governor of the state of California has nothing whatsoever to do with amateur radio. (snip) Since when is that a major concern? There are plenty of OTHER newsgroups for political arguments, Dwight. Neither morse code nor amateur radio is on the special election concerning recall of the elected Governor of California. This newsgroup is about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY. Read back over this newsgroup. During the last presidential election, several thousand messages were posted on that subject alone. Oh, my, that makes it "right," does it? I don't think so... In fact, just about every major event happening in the world recently has been discussed in this newsgroup at some point (and more than a few minor events). The California recall vote is certainly not going to be an exception to that. "Dissed," not discussed, Dwight. There's been a whole lot of spleen-venting by a lot of ignorant keyboard rattlers concerning "world geopolitics," all done by those who don't have a good clue as to what they are about. If you are not a registered voter in California, then you have no cause to carry on as if you were nor have you any authority whatsoever on California politics. Nonsense. What happens in this country, anywhere in this country, is of interest to any American. What happens in California, or any other state, has an impact on the rest of the nation. Nonsense...to the easterners who never considered California as ever belonging to the union. :-) There's NO amateur radio in the special recall election in California. So, while it is true those outside the state don't vote in California, that clearly doesn't prevent them from commenting on the subject. I'm aware. :-) I'm also aware of the provincial bigotry of easterners and enviousness of the most populous state in the USA (about 1 in 8 Americans live here) and the fact that California's budget ranks 5th through 7th (depending on standards) of world NATIONS. Just the same, there is NOTHING about amateur radio in the special recall election in California. Nothing. Go bitch about something non-amateur elsewhere... LHA |
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Brian) writes: Brian, go easy on Steamy. He doesn't know about all the hundreds of communication carrier companies that were doing point-to-point radio communications before he was born. He doesn't know that militaries around the world were using radio for primary long-distance communications before he was born. He just doesn't know. Sure he does. Someone here has a hard time "accepting" things, Lennie, and it isn't me. Steamy never did any communications while in the military...other than talking on the telephone. Sorry. Incorrect. It's painfully obvious, Brian. Steamy hates me. I served in the US Army so, naturally to him, anything Army is subject to hatred, villification, and denigration. I ahte liars and people who try to use somoen else's military service to make themselves look good. That would include you and Mark Morgan. Steamy never did any primary communications while in the USMC. Naturally he resents that anyone else did. Sorry. Incorrect. Steamy can only think of the hymnal about Montezuma and Tripoli. Steamy is a mighty macho marine morseman, far superior to ordinary folk. He is a regular Atilla the Ham. Thanks for once again re-proving that "Do As I Say Not Do As I Do" is a persnal credo of yours, Lennie. Steamy can't handle real truth. Sure I can. You are liar, an antagonist, and a creep. See...I took that pretty well, I think. Many of my fellow Marines have fallen in combat. That is true. I honor them and wish they never had to be called upon to make that sacrifice, but they did. And I would assume that some have fallen since your departure as well. Some of them probably fell while staggering back from the NCO club. Ahhhh yes...Lennie once again shows that "honoring" Veteans is a one way street for him. I bet Lennie's REAL "nicname" is "Diode". Steamy is hell bent on doing anything he can to say bad things about his "enemies." He tries to turn around statements I say so that they are pejoratives. If you were truly an "enemy", Lennie, wwe'd not be having this conversation. I don't have to say bad things about you. You do enough to prove anything Steamy's concept of "honor" only applies to whatever and whomever He "honors." He cannot comprehend anyone else honoring their old military unit or even knowing details of that unit. Such seems to be an abomination with him. You have no "honor", Anderscum, save for yourself and your ego. Steamy, and some others, are resentful and some probably envious that anyone else had any primary communications tasks over HF a half century ago. Envious...Of something you did 50 years ago..?!?! BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ! ! ! ! And YOUR "operative word" there was "HAD" tasks dealing with HF radio...I HAVE dealings with HF radio...And NOT on someone elses' dime, either. I will be glad and honored to link my name with my old Signal Battalion anytime, anywhere. That Battalion still exists in spirit today as the 78th Signal Service Battalion, Camp Zama, Japan, under the command of the 516th Signal Brigade headquartered at Fort Shafter, Hawaii, and attached to the US Army Pacific as its main communications provider. Your "link", Lennie, will be forever remembered in THIS forum as a shameful and scurrilous attempt to USE those men and thier sacrifice to make some silly attempt at improving your image in here. It's not possible. Every time you enter this forum and start that same old spiele again, you reprove the point that you are nothing but an NG troll. Heh heh...Steamy still hasn't given any details of his own claims to honor and glory of "seven hostile actions." He never will. Not here and certainly not for you, Your Putziness. THERE'S where the "envy" lays. According to Steamy, all those statements are "lies." Despite their real world existance, Steamy doesn't want to admit their truth. He calls anything I say a "lie." Nope...just the things that aren't true, Lennie...Which in YOUR case is almost anything that exceeds the discussion of THEORETICAL matters. It's just not worth it to attempt discussion with a psychotic. Then stop muttering to yourself and maybe the voices will go away. Some else in here who used to quote an old baseball player is fond of repeating "It ain't braggin' if ya done it." I did it. I don't have to brag. Sure you do. It's the ONLY way you can own up to ANYTHING in this NG...INCLUDING your assertion that you were getting licensed, among others. Leonard H. Anderson retired (from regular hours) electronic engineer person Who, other than Mrs Lennie, cares? Putz! steve, K4YZ |
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In article , Dwight Stewart
writes: What I do have a problem with are people like you who obviously can't handle any kind of disagreement (snip) First, there isn't any real disagreement - only your endless rhetoric about a subject (code testing) that is quickly dying. Second, I have no problems with a simple disagreement, just a problem with those who don't know how to disagree in a civilized manner. You, Larry, either never knew how to disagree in a civilized manner or have lost sight of that ability. Dwight: I don't behave in an "uncivilized" manner, either in person or in this newsgroup. However, my participation in the code testing debate began as a response to uncivilized statements made by NCTA's, and I continue to respond to their incivility whenever I find it -- which is all too often. 73 de Larry, K3LT |
In article , Dwight Stewart
writes: If you are not a registered voter in California, then you have no cause to carry on as if you were nor have you any authority whatsoever on California politics. Nonsense. What happens in this country, anywhere in this country, is of interest to any American. What happens in California, or any other state, has an impact on the rest of the nation. So, while it is true those outside the state don't vote in California, that clearly doesn't prevent them from commenting on the subject. Dwight: You've finally said something that makes sense. California politics are very important to people in every part of the United States, and the world. If all the 50 states were ranked economically along with every other nation in the world, California's economy would be the fourth largest! Over half of the jobs lost in the U.S. in recent years have been lost within the state of California! California politics are of vital interest to every American. 73 de Larry, K3LT |
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (Brian) writes: Brian, go easy on Steamy. He doesn't know about all the hundreds of communication carrier companies that were doing point-to-point radio communications before he was born. He doesn't know that militaries around the world were using radio for primary long-distance communications before he was born. He just doesn't know. Sure he does. Someone here has a hard time "accepting" things, Lennie, and it isn't me. Steamy never did any communications while in the military...other than talking on the telephone. Sorry. Incorrect. Show PROOF of your mighty military "communications," big mouth. You TALK a big story without mentioning ANY details. You haven't named a single one of the "hostile actions" you claim you were in. It's painfully obvious, Brian. Steamy hates me. I served in the US Army so, naturally to him, anything Army is subject to hatred, villification, and denigration. I ahte liars and people who try to use somoen else's military service to make themselves look good. You just HATE. My military service is archived at NARA. Not only that, I have witnesses still alive who were at the same Army radio station I served when I was there. No lies. You HATE someone else being successful in anything so much that it makes you almost violent. That's a bad mental symptom which needs treatment. Steamy never did any primary communications while in the USMC. Naturally he resents that anyone else did. Sorry. Incorrect. It may be "incorrect" but it is more likely quite CORRECT. You've NEVER stated in any detail what you actually DID in the USMC insofar as radio communications. You conveniently gloss over any details. Anyone who really liked their past work will remember details of it and "talk shop" about it. You never do. All you talk about is some general phrases (copyable from any little PR booklet) about "warrior skills" and honor and glory...NO DETAILS. All those generalities and NO DETAILS...sure marks of a bluffer, a con man, trying a selling job on those with no experience in some area. In short, YOU LIE. Then you try to say others "lie" when they give details, provide references and have documentation to prove what they say. Steamy can't handle real truth. Sure I can. You are liar, an antagonist, and a creep. Antagonist, yes. Liar no. I've provided details, references, even names of still-living witnesses as proof of what I've done. You've never tried to confirm anything, have you? You've rejected a scan of my first First Class Radiotelephone (Commercial) license, not once but four times in e-mail. You just can't tolerate TRUTH. It upsets the little fabric of LIES you've created about yourself. Ahhhh yes...Lennie once again shows that "honoring" Veteans is a one way street for him. I HONOR all who actually served their country honorably. I don't honor posers or posturers who can only claim generalities and spout gratuitous phrases or are only interested in fantasies of heroic "hostile actions" they were never involved with in reality. If you were truly an "enemy", Lennie, wwe'd not be having this conversation. True. I'd be standing, watching a graves registration detail picking up your remains. I don't have to say bad things about you. You do enough to prove anything ? Steamy's concept of "honor" only applies to whatever and whomever He "honors." He cannot comprehend anyone else honoring their old military unit or even knowing details of that unit. Such seems to be an abomination with him. You have no "honor", Anderscum, save for yourself and your ego. Vomiting more bile and hatred, ey? Not nice. Not even close to any "Amateur's Code," I'd say. :-) Steamy, and some others, are resentful and some probably envious that anyone else had any primary communications tasks over HF a half century ago. Envious...Of something you did 50 years ago..?!?! BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ! ! ! ! You are envious. Terribly so. There's no other explanation for the hyena laugh writing...other than another symptom of your growing psychosis. And YOUR "operative word" there was "HAD" tasks dealing with HF radio...I HAVE dealings with HF radio...And NOT on someone elses' dime, either. Past tense is fine. HF radio is no longer any primary medium for either national or international radio communications...it has become secondary to very high speed fiber optic digitally-encoded comm and geosychronous communications satellites. That I was actually involved in HF radio communications before your birth, for three straight years, makes you very tense. It should, you have NO comparative claims verifiable through documentation or witnesses to prove your "matching" experience later. I will be glad and honored to link my name with my old Signal Battalion anytime, anywhere. That Battalion still exists in spirit today as the 78th Signal Service Battalion, Camp Zama, Japan, under the command of the 516th Signal Brigade headquartered at Fort Shafter, Hawaii, and attached to the US Army Pacific as its main communications provider. Your "link", Lennie, will be forever remembered in THIS forum as a shameful and scurrilous attempt to USE those men and thier sacrifice to make some silly attempt at improving your image in here. I don't "use" anyone in the military. I was IN the military, doing HF radio communications, have the documentation and the living witnesses who were at the same radio station at the same time I served. I've researched US military records to trace the history of my military unit from its first organization in 1946 to the present day. The Army callsign of ADA has been preserved as the callsign of the Headquarters, US Army Pacific, as important now as it was 50 years ago as the primary communications facitlity of the US Far East Command in Tokyo. It's not possible. Every time you enter this forum and start that same old spiele again, you reprove the point that you are nothing but an NG troll. Perhaps...certainly so to some who think of US amateur radio as some kind of substitute for a failed military career and must always act as if the HOBBY of amateur radio is some kind of "military" SERVICE requiring an espirit de corps worthy of the USMC. Or BSA. I'm just trying to advocate the abolishment of morse code testing for any US radio operator license. Instead, I get all this spewing of HATE and VOMIT from certain parties exhibiting classic symptoms of psychoses. Get some mental help, Steamy. It may improve your life and will certainly improve the lives of all around you. LHA |
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"Len Over 21" wrote
If you are not a registered voter in California, then you have no cause to carry on as if you were nor have you any authority whatsoever on California politics. That sword cuts in both directions, sir. If you are not a registered voter in California (licensed operator in the Amateur Radio Service), then you have no cause to carry on as if you were nor have you any authority whatsoever on California politics (Amateur Radio Service policy). With all kind wishes, de Hans, K0HB -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
"Hans K0HB" wrote in message news:6a3b9f5f99a0c4251172ab4c22749681.128005@myga te.mailgate.org...
"Len Over 21" wrote If you are not a registered voter in California, then you have no cause to carry on as if you were nor have you any authority whatsoever on California politics. That sword cuts in both directions, sir. de Hans, K0HB Hansl, you almost got it. Len -was- using the back of the blade. |
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"Hans K0HB" wrote in message news:6a3b9f5f99a0c4251172ab4c22749681.128005@mygat e.mailgate.org... : "Len Over 21" wrote : : : If you are not a registered voter in California, then you have no cause to : carry on as if you were nor have you any authority whatsoever on : California politics. : : : That sword cuts in both directions, sir. : : If you are not a registered voter in California (licensed operator : in the Amateur Radio Service), then you have no cause to carry on : as if you were nor have you any authority whatsoever on California : politics (Amateur Radio Service policy). : : With all kind wishes, : : de Hans, K0HB : Hansl, You doesn't has to call him "sir". In fact there's a very strong case to be made that doing so is a gross injustice to the real Sirs of the world! |
"Len Over 21" wrote:
Go bitch about something non-amateur elsewhere... After all the ranting you did in that message, you have the nerve to tell others to go elsewhere? Don't hold your breath. Political discussions are almost a tradition in this newsgroup, and your rants (about the "bigotry of easterners" and so on) certainly isn't going to change that. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ |
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... This newsgroup is about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY. Dwight, Lennie makes this assertion when it becomes obvious that he's been bested, especially by someone he considers below his social station. The special recall election in California is NOT about amateur radio. Who cares? YOU are the one who is always suggesting OTHERS are trying to be "moderators", yet here YOU are demanding that someone change the subject. Go figure. Lennie will rant on and on about Japan, his days as an "enginer", and his stellar career as a "contributing editor" of a magazine that wwent belly-up. Please use a spellchecker when you become so enraged. And demanding even more. I was an Associate Editor at HAM RADIO magazine...(SNIP) Yeahyeahyeah...Same old song. I was, and continue to be an electronics design engineer both as professional (paid) and amateur (unpaid). But still not a licensed Amateur Radio Operator. The rest, since by YOUR rules is NOT relevent to Amateur Radio, is moot and should be taken to another forum. The fact of the matter is that I've DONE IT, have the documentation and enough witnesses to convince any court except the vigilantee groups who only want to destroy others while spewing forth hate and vomit on those who've done things. For the purposes of THIS forum you have yet to do anything except rant, antagonize and demean those who HAVE "DONE it"... No FCC Form 660 = No Amateur Radio. Putz. Steve, K4YZ |
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Mike Coslo wrote in message ...
Hans K0HB wrote: "Len Over 21" wrote If you are not a registered voter in California, then you have no cause to carry on as if you were nor have you any authority whatsoever on California politics. That sword cuts in both directions, sir. If you are not a registered voter in California (licensed operator in the Amateur Radio Service), then you have no cause to carry on as if you were nor have you any authority whatsoever on California politics (Amateur Radio Service policy). Game, Set, Match! Squelch of the week. - Mike KB3EIA - Mike, you almost got it. Len -was- using the back of the blade. Maybe if he had used the flat side... |
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In article , Dwight Stewart
writes: After all the ranting you did in that message, you have the nerve to tell others to go elsewhere? Absolutely. The special election for recall in the state of California does NOT involve amateur radio. Never did. Won't. Don't hold your breath. Political discussions are almost a tradition in this newsgroup, and your rants (about the "bigotry of easterners" and so on) certainly isn't going to change that. Okay, you must be establishing that this is NOT an amateur radio policy discussion venue, right? YOU want it to be all about politics, anywhere and everywhere? There are hundreds of Chat Rooms and other forums for discussion of everything that is NOT about amateur radio. Go there. LHA |
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... This newsgroup is about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY. Dwight, Lennie makes this assertion when it becomes obvious that he's been bested, especially by someone he considers below his social station. The special recall election in California is NOT about amateur radio. Who cares? YOU are the one who is always suggesting OTHERS are trying to be "moderators", yet here YOU are demanding that someone change the subject. The special recall election in California is NOT about amateur radio. Lennie will rant on and on about Japan, his days as an "enginer", and his stellar career as a "contributing editor" of a magazine that wwent belly-up. Please use a spellchecker when you become so enraged. And demanding even more. I was an Associate Editor at HAM RADIO magazine...(SNIP) Yeahyeahyeah...Same old song. Like it or not (you definitely hate it), I DID do it and the proof is in over two years' worth of monthly editions on the masthead beside the table of contents. You have no comparative claim. I was, and continue to be an electronics design engineer both as professional (paid) and amateur (unpaid). But still not a licensed Amateur Radio Operator. The rest, since by YOUR rules is NOT relevent to Amateur Radio, is moot and should be taken to another forum. Not by "my" rules. The special recall election in California is NOT about amateur radio. Why do you keep insisting it is? For the purposes of THIS forum you have yet to do anything except rant, antagonize and demean those who HAVE "DONE it"... Tsk, tsk, tsk...you are still looking in a mirror when you say that. When there are undocumented unproven claims made, they get commented on for the undocumented unproven claims they are. Fish stories. Imaginings. Boastful never-was stories. LIES. No FCC Form 660 = No Amateur Radio. This newsgroup is not restricted solely to those who have amateur radio licenses. It is unmoderated. If you feel so terribly wronged, you must go to AOL management and demand that I be barred from accessing an open newsgroup. Good luck on such demands. Remember your short 3-day life of LIBEL about another. LHA |
In article , Mike Coslo writes:
Hans K0HB wrote: "Len Over 21" wrote If you are not a registered voter in California, then you have no cause to carry on as if you were nor have you any authority whatsoever on California politics. That sword cuts in both directions, sir. If you are not a registered voter in California (licensed operator in the Amateur Radio Service), then you have no cause to carry on as if you were nor have you any authority whatsoever on California politics (Amateur Radio Service policy). Game, Set, Match! Squelch of the week. - Mike KB3EIA - Hardly. Hansl cut himself shaving...he was preoccupied with shouting orders into the mirror? He is welcome to complain to AOL management about my accessing an unmoderated, open newsgroup. "Good luck with this one now..." LHA |
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