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Old September 18th 03, 02:01 AM
Clint
 
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the PCTA crowd just said "six mega what ???"

you screwed up and mentioned something modern
and applicable in the real world.... they're trapped
in 1952.

Clint
KB5ZHT

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Top nations that fund UN treasury,
in descending order...

United States: 22%
Japan: 19.6%
Germany: 9.8%
France: 6.5%
UK: 5.6%
Italy 5.1%
Canada: 2.6%
Spain: 2.5%

Russia isn't even in this top 8 list.
France, Russia and Germany, COMBINED,
do not contribute as much to the UN as
does the United States......

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Old September 18th 03, 05:43 AM
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In article , "Clint"
rattlehead@computronDOTnet writes:


the PCTA crowd just said "six mega what ???"

you screwed up and mentioned something modern
and applicable in the real world.... they're trapped
in 1952.


Clint:

In exactly what way is transmitting 6 megapixel color images using
CW "applicable in the real world?" I'm an avid CW operator, but I've
never heard of any way to do that using Morse code. However, since
you seem to think you're some sort of technical genius, I guess
you've got it figured out!

BTW -- if I'm "trapped in 1952" -- the year I was born, BTW, why isn't
a gallon of gasoline selling for 24 cents? Damn those time traps --
they're never around when you need them!

73 de Larry, K3LT

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Old September 19th 03, 01:59 AM
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"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
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In article , "Clint"
rattlehead@computronDOTnet writes:


the PCTA crowd just said "six mega what ???"

you screwed up and mentioned something modern
and applicable in the real world.... they're trapped
in 1952.


Clint:

In exactly what way is transmitting 6 megapixel color images using
CW "applicable in the real world?"


This shouldn't take long. I shall use short words with few syllables so
that you can understand what I had said. Obviously you flew over it
without any REAL discrimination to the actual wording.

I never claimed you COULD send that with CW.
What I was saying is that the majority of the CW-using crowd is
trapped in a time warp that keeps them set back 30 years or so
(evident by thier "hell bent for leather" desire to keep cw testing
around), and wouldn't understand the concept of anything modern
(such as updating the various requirements in ham radio).



BTW -- if I'm "trapped in 1952" -- the year I was born, BTW, why isn't
a gallon of gasoline selling for 24 cents? Damn those time traps --
they're never around when you need them!


and, likewise, the cost of living along with the average wages were
considerably less.

My advice, in the future, is to think before you talk, lest your
foot winds up in your mouth and you look silly.

"better to keep your mouth shut and have people WONDER
if your stupid, than to open it and remove all doubt."

Clint
KB5ZHT




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Old September 19th 03, 03:39 AM
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This shouldn't take long. I shall use short words with few syllables so
that you can understand what I had said. Obviously you flew over it
without any REAL discrimination to the actual wording.

I never claimed you COULD send that with CW.
What I was saying is that the majority of the CW-using crowd is
trapped in a time warp that keeps them set back 30 years or so
(evident by thier "hell bent for leather" desire to keep cw testing
around), and wouldn't understand the concept of anything modern
(such as updating the various requirements in ham radio.

My advice, in the future, is to think before you talk, lest your
foot winds up in your mouth and you look silly.

"better to keep your mouth shut and have people WONDER
if your stupid, than to open it and remove all doubt."

Clint
KB5ZHT



Clint my man .....you should have followed your own advice and not posted
that glittering generality of a Mongolian Cluster ...... I really think your
are able to do better than that pathetic attempt to ruffle the CWist's
feathers ... The fellows who I know who operate CW do so in addition to
digital modes and various ones at that. I don't operate HF fone for various
reasons but I can say in all honesty that the primary reason is that I talk
all day. It is a refreshing break for me to get on an avocal mode and
communicate with a fellow ham ....but Clint I know you also never operate
fone as you know the superiority of digital modes and the inherent moderness
therein.

God Bless 72&7/8ths Tom KI3R Belle Vernon Pa.

Beeping along since '65 amongst other things .....


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Old September 19th 03, 04:58 AM
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In article , "Clint"
rattlehead@computronDOTnet writes:


"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
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In article , "Clint"
rattlehead@computronDOTnet writes:


the PCTA crowd just said "six mega what ???"

you screwed up and mentioned something modern
and applicable in the real world.... they're trapped
in 1952.


Clint:

In exactly what way is transmitting 6 megapixel color images using
CW "applicable in the real world?"


This shouldn't take long. I shall use short words with few syllables so
that you can understand what I had said.


Clint:

Ah, the old "start off with an insult to the intelligence to the poster"
opening. A classic on Usenet, particularly on rrap. Well done -- you've
already lost your argument!

Obviously you flew over it
without any REAL discrimination to the actual wording.


Not really, but if it gives you comfort to think so, who am I to deny
you your little pleasure?

I never claimed you COULD send that with CW.


Ah Ha! That makes one wonder why you mentioned it, then…

What I was saying is that the majority of the CW-using crowd is
trapped in a time warp that keeps them set back 30 years or so
(evident by thier "hell bent for leather" desire to keep cw testing
around), and wouldn't understand the concept of anything modern
(such as updating the various requirements in ham radio).


Well, we all know that this isn't true, just another specious
non-argument by a whining NCTA.

BTW -- if I'm "trapped in 1952" -- the year I was born, BTW, why isn't
a gallon of gasoline selling for 24 cents? Damn those time traps --
they're never around when you need them!


and, likewise, the cost of living along with the average wages were
considerably less.


True enough. I guess what we need is a selective "time trap" that just
"traps" prices.

My advice, in the future, is to think before you talk, lest your
foot winds up in your mouth and you look silly.


Yeah -- good thing I wasn't "talking."

"better to keep your mouth shut and have people WONDER
if your stupid, than to open it and remove all doubt."


And, you even finish with an insult to my intelligence. I'll say one
thing for you, my friend, you really have this Usenet thing dialed in!

73 de Larry, K3LT






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Old September 19th 03, 02:29 AM
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"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote

[ transmitting a 6 mega-pixel image]

I never claimed you COULD send that with CW.


Well, actually, you _could_. I don't have all the tech stuff handy
to determine just how large a 6 mega-pixel 24-bit color image would actually
_be_, so let's just call it a 6 megabyte file, making it, what, 48 million
bits? Now, how many bits in a 'word' of Morse, average? A dozen, maybe? So,
sending at, let's say, 20 wpm gives us a hypothetical bit-rate of 240
bits/min or 4 bits/sec, so we come out with a mere 12 million seconds to
transmit the image (I _swear_ I did not intend for that answer to come out
that simple!).
It would only take 138.88 days.....





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Old September 20th 03, 02:26 AM
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"Robert" wrote in message
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"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote

[ transmitting a 6 mega-pixel image]

I never claimed you COULD send that with CW.



well, I was just responding to his words he tried to
shove in my mouth.


It would only take 138.88 days.....


hey, we're rock'n!

Clint
KB5ZHT


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Old September 20th 03, 07:46 PM
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"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in message
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"Robert" wrote in message
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"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote

[ transmitting a 6 mega-pixel image]

I never claimed you COULD send that with CW.



well, I was just responding to his words he tried to
shove in my mouth.


It would only take 138.88 days.....


hey, we're rock'n!

Clint
KB5ZHT



It continues to amaze me how these no knowledge, no experience, code haters
think they know so much about the mode.

Dan/W4NTI


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Old September 23rd 03, 12:30 PM
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In article , "Robert" writes:

"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote

[ transmitting a 6 mega-pixel image]

I never claimed you COULD send that with CW.


Well, actually, you _could_. I don't have all the tech stuff handy
to determine just how large a 6 mega-pixel 24-bit color image would actually
_be_, so let's just call it a 6 megabyte file, making it, what, 48 million
bits? Now, how many bits in a 'word' of Morse, average? A dozen, maybe? So,
sending at, let's say, 20 wpm gives us a hypothetical bit-rate of 240
bits/min or 4 bits/sec, so we come out with a mere 12 million seconds to
transmit the image (I _swear_ I did not intend for that answer to come out
that simple!).
It would only take 138.88 days.....


Ah, but you forget an important step in the analysis!

One picture is worth a thousand words. Therefore, the time required to send a
"Morse picture" at 20 wpm is equal to 1,000/20 = 50 minutes with no
compression.

73 de Jim, N2EY
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