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"G. Doughty" wrote in message ... Well, passed my element one with no problems yesterday and have been trying to get some contacts on hf with cw. I love cw but 5wpm just isn't cutting it so I am back to Numorse to bring up my speed. Anyone out there that tried a contact with me, sorry. I was forever putting out QRS and still not getting it all. I will be back though as I cannot use phone when the baby is sleeping. The light *tick-ticking* on the straight key doesn't disturb her as much as me talking. Thanks 73 G. Doughty Ahhhhh....a real ham in the making. Don't give up .....keep at it. I'll be looking for you. Dan/W4NTI |
"G. Doughty" wrote:
Well, passed my element one with no problems yesterday and have been trying to get some contacts on hf with cw. I love cw but 5wpm just isn't cutting it so I am back to Numorse to bring up my speed. Anyone out there that tried a contact with me, sorry. I was forever putting out QRS and still not getting it all. I will be back though. You and me both G. (George?) 5wpm didn't work too well for me, so I'm doing a lot of Numorse. don't forget to listen too, as there is a difference between the computer spitting out Morse and real on the air listening. - Mike KB3EIA - |
Hello Guys .... give me a time and I'd be glad to meet
you on 80 or 40 after 9PM .... God Bless Merrry Christmas ...Tom KI3R "Mike Coslo" wrote in message t... "G. Doughty" wrote: Well, passed my element one with no problems yesterday and have been trying to get some contacts on hf with cw. I love cw but 5wpm just isn't cutting it so I am back to Numorse to bring up my speed. Anyone out there that tried a contact with me, sorry. I was forever putting out QRS and still not getting it all. I will be back though. You and me both G. (George?) 5wpm didn't work too well for me, so I'm doing a lot of Numorse. don't forget to listen too, as there is a difference between the computer spitting out Morse and real on the air listening. - Mike KB3EIA - |
Keep at it. Also keep trying on air work as that will bring your speed up
nicely. Check out the FISTS website and check out their code buddy program. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE "G. Doughty" wrote in message ... Well, passed my element one with no problems yesterday and have been trying to get some contacts on hf with cw. I love cw but 5wpm just isn't cutting it so I am back to Numorse to bring up my speed. Anyone out there that tried a contact with me, sorry. I was forever putting out QRS and still not getting it all. I will be back though as I cannot use phone when the baby is sleeping. The light *tick-ticking* on the straight key doesn't disturb her as much as me talking. Thanks 73 G. Doughty |
If someone wants to set up a time and frequency, I'd be happy to show up
too. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE "garigue" wrote in message news:k1qFb.610850$HS4.4472774@attbi_s01... Hello Guys .... give me a time and I'd be glad to meet you on 80 or 40 after 9PM .... God Bless Merrry Christmas ...Tom KI3R "Mike Coslo" wrote in message t... "G. Doughty" wrote: Well, passed my element one with no problems yesterday and have been trying to get some contacts on hf with cw. I love cw but 5wpm just isn't cutting it so I am back to Numorse to bring up my speed. Anyone out there that tried a contact with me, sorry. I was forever putting out QRS and still not getting it all. I will be back though. You and me both G. (George?) 5wpm didn't work too well for me, so I'm doing a lot of Numorse. don't forget to listen too, as there is a difference between the computer spitting out Morse and real on the air listening. - Mike KB3EIA - |
"G. Doughty" wrote Anyone out there that tried a contact with me, sorry. I was forever putting out QRS and still not getting it all. I will be back though as I cannot use phone when the baby is sleeping. The light *tick-ticking* on the straight key doesn't disturb her as much as me talking. Next time you get the courage to fire up on the air, go to a frequency at the lower part of most bands ending in "58" like 3558, 7058, 14058, or 21058. Usually you can find people there looking for slower Morse. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
Wow! Thanks so much for the support. I thought I would get some negative
feedback but you guys are awesome. As far as setting up times, my daughter is usually in bed by about 9pm. I get nervous though. That is what blew it the first time I took the code. It's funny too, I find it difficult to send as well, but I read a lot about how people find sending easier than receiving. I actually have to write down what I want to send before I do it. Oh well, practice makes perfect!!! 73 Greg |
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"G. Doughty" wrote Anyone out there that tried a contact with me, sorry. I was forever putting out QRS and still not getting it all. I will be back though as I cannot use phone when the baby is sleeping. The light *tick-ticking* on the straight key doesn't disturb her as much as me talking. Next time you get the courage to fire up on the air, go to a frequency at the lower part of most bands ending in "58" like 3558, 7058, 14058, or 21058. Usually you can find people there looking for slower Morse. 73, de Hans, K0HB speaking of bands, what's a good band to start on for CW. -- Donovan Hill VA7LNX (Basic, Advanced) |
"VA7LNX" wrote speaking of bands, what's a good band to start on for CW. Whichever one sounds open at your location. I prefer 30 and 40 meters. 73, Hans, K0HB |
Greg Doughty wrote:
Wow! Thanks so much for the support. I thought I would get some negative feedback but you guys are awesome. As far as setting up times, my daughter is usually in bed by about 9pm. I get nervous though. That is what blew it the first time I took the code. It's funny too, I find it difficult to send as well, but I read a lot about how people find sending easier than receiving. I actually have to write down what I want to send before I do it. Oh well, practice makes perfect!!! Sounds familiar, Greg! I'm a champion at "flying behind the plane", and can really get frustrated if I make a mistake. That's my big problem, as well as having trouble with bg noise - but I'm working on that too. Yeah, we'll need to get together some evening. I'm good foro either 40 or 80. - Mike KB3EIA - |
"Greg Doughty" wrote in message ... Wow! Thanks so much for the support. I thought I would get some negative feedback but you guys are awesome. As far as setting up times, my daughter is usually in bed by about 9pm. I get nervous though. That is what blew it the first time I took the code. It's funny too, I find it difficult to send as well, but I read a lot about how people find sending easier than receiving. I actually have to write down what I want to send before I do it. Oh well, practice makes perfect!!! 73 Greg That's because we've all been there and done that. Early on I had a real old-timer answer me and he must have been going at least 35wpm, probably been doing code since radio began. After several requests, he got down to what I could handle, about 10wpm, and stayed with me for a few minutes and then gracefully said goodbye. I sensed that going so slow was a strain for him but he still was willing to spend a few minutes with me. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
"VA7LNX" wrote in message news:mPrFb.774519$6C4.748277@pd7tw1no... KØHB wrote: "G. Doughty" wrote Anyone out there that tried a contact with me, sorry. I was forever putting out QRS and still not getting it all. I will be back though as I cannot use phone when the baby is sleeping. The light *tick-ticking* on the straight key doesn't disturb her as much as me talking. Next time you get the courage to fire up on the air, go to a frequency at the lower part of most bands ending in "58" like 3558, 7058, 14058, or 21058. Usually you can find people there looking for slower Morse. 73, de Hans, K0HB speaking of bands, what's a good band to start on for CW. -- Donovan Hill VA7LNX (Basic, Advanced) Depends on the time of day and what areas you want to work but I would suggest 40m or 80m at night and 15m or 20m for day. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
"KØHB" wrote in message k.net... Whichever one sounds open at your location. I prefer 30 and 40 meters. By the way Hans, I was working on QSL cards today and when I entered your call in my computerized log I found not only the two relatively recent contacts for which you sent me cards but a much older one too. It appears that we worked back in January of 1993 during the "Minnesota Beach Party." I had tested in May of 1992 and received the actual license at the end of July 1992. I'd only been licensed a little over 5 months then. My Extra class license arrived at the end of January 1993. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
"Dee D. Flint" wrote It appears that we worked back in January of 1993 during the "Minnesota Beach Party." That was the "Frostbite Falls Beach Party" which was the old name for the Minnesota QSO Party. You can work us again soon, I think Feb 7th. Rules at http://www.w0aa.org 73, de Hans, K0HB |
KØHB wrote:
"VA7LNX" wrote speaking of bands, what's a good band to start on for CW. Whichever one sounds open at your location. I prefer 30 and 40 meters. 73, Hans, K0HB Hmmm... I'm going to build a 15m CW direct conversion transciever... maybe I'll build it and make sure it's upgradable to 30m (frequency doubler on the VFO and a 2nd input filter). -- Donovan Hill VA7LNX (Basic, Advanced) |
ojunk (G. Doughty) wrote in message ...
Well, passed my element one with no problems yesterday and have been trying to get some contacts on hf with cw. I love cw but 5wpm just isn't cutting it so I am back to Numorse to bring up my speed. That's excellent but don't limit yourself to just the computer. Listen around the bands too. Part of what you may be experience is not being skilled (yet) at both running the rig and copying code. The way to cure that is to use your rig to listen to real live code. W1AW sends code practice on a regular schedule and should be very strong at your location on 80 and 40 meters in the evenings. Check http://www.arrl.org for the current schedule. Also, don't limit yourself to 5 wpm or whatever speed you can copy. Spend some time at higher speeds. Even if you only get 1 letter out of every 3, it will sharpen your reflexes and when you listen to 5 wpm it will sound much slower. Try a range of speeds, up to the point where you only get maybe 10-20% of what's being sent. Anyone out there that tried a contact with me, sorry. I was forever putting out QRS and still not getting it all. No problem. We were all beginners once. I will be back though as I cannot use phone when the baby is sleeping. The light *tick-ticking* on the straight key doesn't disturb her as much as me talking. Just another advantage of the mode! 73 es GL de Jim, N2EY |
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message gy.com... "Greg Doughty" wrote in message ... Wow! Thanks so much for the support. I thought I would get some negative feedback but you guys are awesome. As far as setting up times, my daughter is usually in bed by about 9pm. I get nervous though. That is what blew it the first time I took the code. It's funny too, I find it difficult to send as well, but I read a lot about how people find sending easier than receiving. I actually have to write down what I want to send before I do it. Oh well, practice makes perfect!!! 73 Greg That's because we've all been there and done that. Early on I had a real old-timer answer me and he must have been going at least 35wpm, probably been doing code since radio began. After several requests, he got down to what I could handle, about 10wpm, and stayed with me for a few minutes and then gracefully said goodbye. I sensed that going so slow was a strain for him but he still was willing to spend a few minutes with me. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE It really is difficult for those able to copy above 30 wpm to slow down to ten. Its not a macho thing, really. Also now a days many folks use puters to send and readers to copy. Ive been answered by someone going 20 when I called at 40 and they copied just fine, and no ask for a QRS. But, what I do is slow down if answered by someone slower than I was sending. I feel that is courtesy and good operating practice. Also be aware that this time of year the low bands are skipping out like crazy. If your too close together you may not hear each other at night. Dan/W4NTI |
"VA7LNX" wrote in message news:mPrFb.774519$6C4.748277@pd7tw1no... KØHB wrote: "G. Doughty" wrote Anyone out there that tried a contact with me, sorry. I was forever putting out QRS and still not getting it all. I will be back though as I cannot use phone when the baby is sleeping. The light *tick-ticking* on the straight key doesn't disturb her as much as me talking. Next time you get the courage to fire up on the air, go to a frequency at the lower part of most bands ending in "58" like 3558, 7058, 14058, or 21058. Usually you can find people there looking for slower Morse. 73, de Hans, K0HB speaking of bands, what's a good band to start on for CW. -- Donovan Hill VA7LNX (Basic, Advanced) 40 is decent during the day, with 80 good at night, especially in the winter months. 20 can be good, but you will run into dxers and such more often. Dan/W4NTI |
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message ink.net... "Dee D. Flint" wrote in message gy.com... "Greg Doughty" wrote in message ... Wow! Thanks so much for the support. I thought I would get some negative feedback but you guys are awesome. As far as setting up times, my daughter is usually in bed by about 9pm. I get nervous though. That is what blew it the first time I took the code. It's funny too, I find it difficult to send as well, but I read a lot about how people find sending easier than receiving. I actually have to write down what I want to send before I do it. Oh well, practice makes perfect!!! 73 Greg That's because we've all been there and done that. Early on I had a real old-timer answer me and he must have been going at least 35wpm, probably been doing code since radio began. After several requests, he got down to what I could handle, about 10wpm, and stayed with me for a few minutes and then gracefully said goodbye. I sensed that going so slow was a strain for him but he still was willing to spend a few minutes with me. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE It really is difficult for those able to copy above 30 wpm to slow down to ten. Its not a macho thing, really. Also now a days many folks use puters to send and readers to copy. Ive been answered by someone going 20 when I called at 40 and they copied just fine, and no ask for a QRS. But, what I do is slow down if answered by someone slower than I was sending. I feel that is courtesy and good operating practice. Also be aware that this time of year the low bands are skipping out like crazy. If your too close together you may not hear each other at night. Dan/W4NTI Well in a contest, I've answered those going faster than I can without expecting them to slow down as I've generally got the info by listening through their response several times before I throw in my call. However I'm relieved when they do slow down automatically as then I can verify what I have when they answer. I personally do not use a code reader as that limits me to answering stations only when conditions are good, the signal is loud and the sending consists of nearly perfectly formed code. I've worked stations in contests that were so faint that I wasn't sure they got the exchange until they sent the "TU". Another time, I was one of the operators at a special event station and conditions were bad but several stations contacted us on CW and I'm quite sure that a code reader would have failed as the static was high and the signals distorted. One guy even sent us a thank you for working so hard to copy him. He really wanted to make the contact as he was a Civil War buff and we were commemorating the first Medal of Honor and it's winner. I happened to be the one to work him and it meant a lot that he enclosed the special thank you note. Now when conditions are right for a code reader to work, yes, it beats me hands down. But when conditions are less than ideal, I find that I do a better job even though I don't work code enough to be really good at it. For casual conversation instead of contesting, I'll need the other station to slow down. 15 wpm is my comfort level as more than that I have a tough time writing that fast (I'm working on head copy but that will take awhile yet). So Dan, if you come across me on the bands, slow down to my speed as I don't and won't use a code reader. Maybe someday, I'll finally be good at it. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
Hey Greg, I know the stagefright thing. I passed my 5 wpm many years ago.
Wasn t good enough to pass 13 to get My General in '76. Dropped out of ham pretty much until 2001. Got into SSB at first and late last year regained my interest in CW. I am still trying to break the barrier of 13 wpm but can t copy it on paper. Download the Koch Software Program by G4FON. It will play text on random characters from your computer. Read the free book on CW by N0HFF. Downloadable in pdf format. I am using the 200 most common words and playing them alternatively at 15 and 20 WPM. I use CW Morse to convert to wav files and record them on cd. At first 20 wpm was a total blur. Now I can pick up about half the words at 20 wpm. Some of the experts say not to pick up a key until you can copy 13 wpm. That may be true. My goal is to copy CW faster than I can send it. Listen to code faster than what you can currently copy. The best challenge is the OM who sends a couple of words per minute more than I am comfortable with. There is an order to the progression of a qso, so it's relatively easy to pick up name, qth, signal, rig, etc Have fun learning 73's Jerry |
Very cool! I am now listening more than ever. I will occassionally go onto an
open freq and send CQ just to see if I can pick up a slow contact. But I send s l o w. Great advice though about progression- What would cw be to me if I just kept trying to find folks with 5wpm . . . I would always be at 5wpm! I really appreciate the kind words. Thanks 73 Greg |
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ojunk (Greg Doughty) wrote in message ... I get nervous though. That's normal! That is what blew it the first time I took the code. It's funny too, I find it difficult to send as well, but I read a lot about how people find sending easier than receiving. Try this: Disable the transmit part of your rig so that it doesn't put out a signal, or use a code practice oscillator. Tune around for a CQ that you can copy and have a "pretend" QSO, with you sending just to yourself. Gets you used to doing the various things without actually being on the air. I actually have to write down what I want to send before I do it. Oh well, practice makes perfect!!! Absolutely! Remember that CW operating involves a whole set of skills, but Element 1 only tests one of them. The rest are left "as an exercise for the reader". 73 es GL de Jim, N2EY Jim, that actually make a whole lot of sense. Brian |
In article mPrFb.774519$6C4.748277@pd7tw1no, VA7LNX
writes: speaking of bands, what's a good band to start on for CW. I suggest 40 meters, if you're seeking one band. It has good DX propogation characteristics throughout the year, and there is a lot of CW activity. After 40, your next best bet is 20, which is where I spend most of my operating time. 73 de Larry, K3LT |
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G. Doughty wrote:
Well, passed my element one with no problems yesterday and have been trying to get some contacts on hf with cw. I love cw but 5wpm just isn't cutting it so I am back to Numorse to bring up my speed. Anyone out there that tried a contact with me, sorry. I was forever putting out QRS and still not getting it all. I will be back though as I cannot use phone when the baby is sleeping. The light *tick-ticking* on the straight key doesn't disturb her as much as me talking. Thanks 73 G. Doughty Congrats on getting the ticket! I spent a lot of time in the wee hours of the morning on the 40 meter novice band with the new daughter propped on my crossed leg, working the key with one hand and holding the bottle with the other. Now the daughter has two of her own and another on the way. |
Congrats on getting the ticket! I spent a lot of time in the wee hours
of the morning on the 40 meter novice band with the new daughter propped on my crossed leg, working the key with one hand and holding the bottle That is cool!! We are now expecting another one and as my wife and I take turns with night duty, I think the soft glow of the transceiver and the tick tick may be the ticket to helping the little one go to sleep. What a great excuse to cw. It makes it hard to copy though! Thanks 73 Greg |
"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message ... In article , ojunk (G. Doughty) writes: Well, passed my element one with no problems yesterday and have been trying to get some contacts on hf with cw. I love cw but 5wpm just isn't cutting it so I am back to Numorse to bring up my speed. Anyone out there that tried a contact with me, sorry. I was forever putting out QRS and still not getting it all. I will be back though as I cannot use phone when the baby is sleeping. The light *tick-ticking* on the straight key doesn't disturb her as much as me talking. Thanks 73 G. Doughty How refreshing! A new ham who actually passes his General, gets OTA with CW, and isn't whining about it! I'm especially impressed by the fact that Mr. Doughty is a new father with a young baby, but is not using that as an excuse not to get in some operating time! Moreover, the non-voice nature of CW is giving him the means to do so without disturbing the harmonic's slumbers. Good work, BBL! Carry on, and I hope to work you someday! 73 de Larry, K3LT It is wonderful, a breath of fresh air. Gives one renewed hope that all in the ARS are not dimwits. Dan/W4NTI |
"Greg Doughty" wrote in message ... Congrats on getting the ticket! I spent a lot of time in the wee hours of the morning on the 40 meter novice band with the new daughter propped on my crossed leg, working the key with one hand and holding the bottle That is cool!! We are now expecting another one and as my wife and I take turns with night duty, I think the soft glow of the transceiver and the tick tick may be the ticket to helping the little one go to sleep. What a great excuse to cw. It makes it hard to copy though! Thanks 73 Greg At first yes, but you will eventually start copying in your head and won't need to do much other than take notes. Enjoy. Dan/W4NTI |
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