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Hans K0HB March 5th 04 07:01 PM

Be the first on your block!
 
http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/...service_1.html

Zoran Brlecic March 5th 04 08:21 PM

Hans K0HB wrote:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/...service_1.html


Yep, sadly it's becoming a reality.

Personally, I'm looking forward to the day when I program my electronic
keyer into a CQ loop, fire up the amp and leave on a vacation. Of
course, the next logical step is the FCC protecting the BPL by placing
amateur radio in part 15.



WA7AA


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Joe O'Connell March 6th 04 05:10 AM

Was there ever any doubt that it would get the go ahead?
This administration will approve just about anything if someone makes a
campaign contribution.
Just look at relaxing media ownership regulations.
Joe



Dave Shrader March 6th 04 11:36 AM

There will be so much capital investment by companies in BPL that the
courts won't dare to overturn the decision!!!! The FCC will cave to the
$$$ interest, if they have not already done so.

The answer may be to establish local HF nets, need to be local to keep
S/N ratios high, and get on the air during peak internet times and
simply shut down the BPL service at the consumer level. Let the
consumers complain about poor service. Then provide the defense of
non-licensed Part 15 devices etc.

Running 1 KW as the minimum power necessary to communicate across town
on 75 phone will certainly have an impact on local BPL users!!!

DD

Zoran Brlecic wrote:

Hans K0HB wrote:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/...service_1.html



Yep, sadly it's becoming a reality.

Personally, I'm looking forward to the day when I program my electronic
keyer into a CQ loop, fire up the amp and leave on a vacation. Of
course, the next logical step is the FCC protecting the BPL by placing
amateur radio in part 15.



WA7AA




March 6th 04 03:25 PM

In rec.radio.amateur.dx Dave Shrader wrote:
There will be so much capital investment by companies in BPL that the
courts won't dare to overturn the decision!!!! The FCC will cave to the
$$$ interest, if they have not already done so.


They have. Mikey Powell was just in Raleigh (where I am)
talking to the public, and the paper quoted him on the BPL
issue among others. I don't have the exact quote but he
basically said, "We'll try not to harm hobbyists, but BPL
has too much potential (*) to let it be stopped."

(*) "Potential" = "people are going to get RICH on this."

_______________________________________________
Ken Kuzenski AC4RD kuzen001 at acpub .duke .edu
_______________________________________________
All disclaimers apply, see? www.duke.edu/~kuzen001

N2EY March 6th 04 06:00 PM

In article , writes:

(*) "Potential" = "people are going to get RICH on this."


They can't make money if nobody signs up. Heck, the telcoms have enough trouble
making money with millions signed up.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Dan/W4NTI March 6th 04 06:13 PM

Now thats a good idea. Kinda like retro radio. From what I heard, during
the days of King Spark, it took KW levels to be heard in the next town.
Lets go for it.

We can send traffic to each part of the country via the National Traffic
System...them set up short and long range relay stations. Dang...just like
it was in the beginning. I like it.

Dan/W4NTI

"Dave Shrader" wrote in message
news:fJi2c.58122$PR3.1057825@attbi_s03...
There will be so much capital investment by companies in BPL that the
courts won't dare to overturn the decision!!!! The FCC will cave to the
$$$ interest, if they have not already done so.

The answer may be to establish local HF nets, need to be local to keep
S/N ratios high, and get on the air during peak internet times and
simply shut down the BPL service at the consumer level. Let the
consumers complain about poor service. Then provide the defense of
non-licensed Part 15 devices etc.

Running 1 KW as the minimum power necessary to communicate across town
on 75 phone will certainly have an impact on local BPL users!!!

DD

Zoran Brlecic wrote:

Hans K0HB wrote:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/...service_1.html



Yep, sadly it's becoming a reality.

Personally, I'm looking forward to the day when I program my electronic
keyer into a CQ loop, fire up the amp and leave on a vacation. Of
course, the next logical step is the FCC protecting the BPL by placing
amateur radio in part 15.



WA7AA






Tony P. March 6th 04 07:00 PM

In article fJi2c.58122$PR3.1057825@attbi_s03,
says...
There will be so much capital investment by companies in BPL that the
courts won't dare to overturn the decision!!!! The FCC will cave to the
$$$ interest, if they have not already done so.

The answer may be to establish local HF nets, need to be local to keep
S/N ratios high, and get on the air during peak internet times and
simply shut down the BPL service at the consumer level. Let the
consumers complain about poor service. Then provide the defense of
non-licensed Part 15 devices etc.

Running 1 KW as the minimum power necessary to communicate across town
on 75 phone will certainly have an impact on local BPL users!!!


LOL - that would do it. But even 100 or 200 watts would be enough to
muck up BPL if there were enough of you in the city.


Tony P. March 6th 04 07:02 PM

In article ,
says...
In rec.radio.amateur.dx Dave Shrader wrote:
There will be so much capital investment by companies in BPL that the
courts won't dare to overturn the decision!!!! The FCC will cave to the
$$$ interest, if they have not already done so.


They have. Mikey Powell was just in Raleigh (where I am)
talking to the public, and the paper quoted him on the BPL
issue among others. I don't have the exact quote but he
basically said, "We'll try not to harm hobbyists, but BPL
has too much potential (*) to let it be stopped."

(*) "Potential" = "people are going to get RICH on this."


Ah, but kill the potential and it becomes a non-viable service.


Arnold March 6th 04 07:32 PM

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:25:09 +0000 (UTC), in rec.radio.amateur.dx,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.dx Dave Shrader
wrote:
There will be so much capital investment by companies in BPL that the
courts won't dare to overturn the decision!!!! The FCC will cave to
the $$$ interest, if they have not already done so.


They have. Mikey Powell was just in Raleigh (where I am)
talking to the public, and the paper quoted him on the BPL
issue among others. I don't have the exact quote but he
basically said, "We'll try not to harm hobbyists, but BPL
has too much potential (*) to let it be stopped."

(*) "Potential" = "people are going to get RICH on this."

_______________________________________________
Ken Kuzenski AC4RD kuzen001 at acpub .duke .edu
_______________________________________________
All disclaimers apply, see?
www.duke.edu/~kuzen001

"We'll *try* not harm hobbyists.." Yeah, riiiight. To me what he
actually said was "Talk to the hand 'cause the face don't understand."
I think Powell would love nothing more than to see amateur radio die.



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