KØHB wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote

|
| But last time I checked, if you don't toe
| the party line in NCI, you aren't allowed in NCI.
|
| And that my friend, is no laughing matter.
|

Sunuvagun, you seem to be wrong again. I have VIOLENTLY disagreed with
NCI on the notion of free Tech-to-General upgrades, both here in public
and in private email with the directors. Since they haven't
excommunicated me, I guess that the laugh is on you, my friend.

Heheheheheh! (Or is it BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!)


So it has ALWAYS been a policy that NCI has supported reductions in the
written elements? We've been told otherwise in here and elsewhere. Or is
this something new, and they are broadening their horizons?


And *you* might be skirting article 4 part 2, perhaps?


Massive credibility problem here. Laugh as necessary!

- Mike KB3EIA -

In article . net, "KØHB"
writes:

"Jason Hsu" wrote in message
. com...

| Until the ARRL proposal came out, I had never heard anyone propose
| automatic upgrades of Technician licensees to the General class. Now
| that this proposal has come out, many people are defending this part
| of the proposal.

People support the ARRL proposal because it gives about 65% of all
existing hams a coupon for a free pass to General or Extra. That
suggests that the proposal would gain 65% support right out of the box.
Even NCI has decided to support it, but then the vast majority of NCI
members are techs who would be eligible for the freebie.

Thank you for that fair and equitable objective viewpoint,
seasoned old sea salt.

What's the percentage of the ARRL membership that are Techs
compared to other classes? Remember that the no-code-test
Tech license is over a third of ALL amateur licensees in the US.

ARRL membership was down to 21% of all US ham licensees
in December. Down from July and that down from December a
year before.

See any connections there? :-)

LHA / WMD

"Mike Coslo" wrote


|
| Massive credibility problem here. Laugh as necessary!
|

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! SNICKER!!!!! CHORTLE!!!!!!!!
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEH!!!!!

"Len Over 21" wrote
|
| Thank you for that fair and equitable objective viewpoint,
| seasoned old sea salt.
|

My viewpoint makes no effort to be "fair and equitable" whatever the
phuck that is. My viewpoints are reasoned, honest, and forthright. If
you can't tolerate honesty, then get out of the kitchen.

With all kind wishes,

de Hans, K0HB

Subject: Why are so many defending the proposed automatic upgrade from
Tech to Gener
From: "KØHB"
Date: 4/15/2004 3:23 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: .net


"Len Over 21" wrote
|
| Thank you for that fair and equitable objective viewpoint,
| seasoned old sea salt.
|

My viewpoint makes no effort to be "fair and equitable" whatever the
phuck that is. My viewpoints are reasoned, honest, and forthright. If
you can't tolerate honesty, then get out of the kitchen.

I'd certainly call them "forthright" and since they are usually
well-stated I'd call them "honest". "Reasoned" in this forum is more
subjective than objective in this forum (my own certainly included)

What I'd like to know is why is it that many, if not most, of the
allegedly post-secondary educated persons find it necessary to use the
profanity to try and effectively express themselves...?!?! Especially those
who go out of thier way to make everyone else aware of just how well educated
they alledgedly are...And DOUBLY especially those who find it "appropriate" to
comment on the "conduct" of others in this forum...?!?!?

73

Steve, K4YZ

"KØHB" wrote in message thlink.net...
"Mike Coslo" wrote

|
| But last time I checked, if you don't toe
| the party line in NCI, you aren't allowed in NCI.
|
| And that my friend, is no laughing matter.
|

Sunuvagun, you seem to be wrong again. I have VIOLENTLY disagreed with
NCI on the notion of free Tech-to-General upgrades,

Please follow the teachings of Ghandi, non-violence.

KØHB wrote:

"Mike Coslo" wrote


|
| Massive credibility problem here. Laugh as necessary!
|

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! SNICKER!!!!! CHORTLE!!!!!!!!
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEH!!!!!

See, now don't you feel better?


- Mike KB3EIA -

Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:

What I'd like to know is why is it that many, if not most, of the
allegedly post-secondary educated persons find it necessary to use the
profanity to try and effectively express themselves...?!?! Especially those
who go out of thier way to make everyone else aware of just how well educated
they alledgedly are...And DOUBLY especially those who find it "appropriate" to
comment on the "conduct" of others in this forum...?!?!?


Seems to be roughly related to the strength of the argument in an
inverse fashion.

- Mike KB3EIA -

(William) wrote in message . com...

Similarly, it is not appropriate for FISTS to comment on anything
other than Morse Code. So why do they do it? Why aren't you
addressing this injustice?

I agree. FISTS has a hard-line stance in favor of Morse Code testing.
The organization is supposed to be dedicated to OPERATING Morse Code,
not keeping the Morse Code requirement. The leaders should have
either started a new organization dedicated to defending Morse Code
requirements or simply filed petitions on behalf of themselves instead
of on behalf of FISTS.

Jason Hsu, AG4DG

"Jason Hsu" wrote in message
om...
Until the ARRL proposal came out, I had never heard anyone propose
automatic upgrades of Technician licensees to the General class. Now
that this proposal has come out, many people are defending this part
of the proposal.

Sure is bunkie!

Ain't it just grand?

I realize this might sound radical, but I believe that the current
licensing system, for the most part, is OK. The only change that I
strongly believe should be made is eliminating the 5 wpm Morse Code
exam for all license classes, including Amateur Extra. Until the ARRL
proposal came out, the Morse Code exam was the main controversy. The
proposed automatic upgrades from Tech to General have now stolen much
of the spotlight.

That is because that is how the ARRL wants it to be!!
The yankee-blueblood-old-boys-club in Newingtion
has finally admitted that the stats for HF operators has
been on a steady decline since the mid-80's. All the new
op's have been getting on 2 Meters and 440 FM so they
can talk to their friends during morning and evening
drive time. They have no interest whatsoever, for the majority
of them, to "upgrade" to TRADITIONAL HF mode of
operation because the *mistique* and *unique* ability to
have in your private home a radio that you can talk to
the other side of the USA or into Europe. Not any longer!
Today a teenager with a Dell computer and a DSL connection
can conduct live chat and/or video with their friends across
town or across the country or across the world. And they
don't need any unsightly antennas, limited propagation or
other things to hinder them...plus it's also much cheaper
than ham radio. (besides...from a generational perspective,
what kid or teenager wants to converse with a bunch of
60+ something year-olds on HF radio?) Face it boys.
The REAL REASON this is being done is the ARRL
***knows*** that within 10-15 years, most of the current
hams who use HF will be DEAD OF OLD AGE AND
OR IT'S COMPLICATIONS THEROF. Along with that
the subscription rate for QST (..and CQ Magazine also)
is steadly declining each year. Ham radio is on it's death
bed boys, the sooner you admit it, the better you'll feel.
We have *nothing* to offer the current youthfull generation
but a pile of obsolete technology which they not only have
no interest whatsoever in, but look upon the same and it's
current users as being both eccentric and wierd. As one 13
year old said to me at a ham radio demo last year: "What do
I want with just a microphone and a speaker? I can video
conference with my friends online at once and swap music
from home". The next generation has spoken boys!

Ham Radio is OBSOLETE. That is the root cause of the
problem issue. Ham radio will be DEAD in 20 years just
like the automobile replaced the horsebuggy.