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![]() "Jack Twilley" wrote in message ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 "Dan" == w4nti Dan writes: [...] Dan A real ham is the proper answer. Dan You know one that paid his dues, passed his tests in front of the Dan FCC. Demonstrated his abilty to not only receive....but to SEND Dan CW in front of the FCC examiners. And has 43 years of experience Dan since then. You know....a real ham. Dan Make of that what you must. Huh. I'm so glad I'm not an old, bitter, frustrated person. I might run the risk of being a real ham. Dan Dan/W4NTI Jack. (I'm happier being me, thanks.) - -- Jack Twilley jmt at twilley dot org And I'm so happy that I'm not a know it all, but learned nothing newguy that thinks he is the cats meow. Dan/W4NTI |
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![]() "starwars" wrote in message elinux.net... Jack Twilley wrote: Huh. I'm so glad I'm not an old, bitter, frustrated person. I might run the risk of being a real ham. Age has nothing to do with Dan's personality problems. I've been licensed for 50 years, took all my exams except for the first one (Novice) in front of FCC examiners, but I've moved on since then. Some people sit back and try to live in the past (military days, ham radio license -- whatever) while others continue to anticipate the future. Dan's "real ham" mantra is a plea for respect which arises out of his own insecurity. I've been there, done that, got the ARRL 35 wpm certificate, and then proceeded to persue other things. It is my belief that ham radio has become quite "uncool" to newbies in these days of the internet, personal computers, Wi-Fi, and the rest of the technology that attracts today's bright kids. I put ham radio on the back burner way back in 1980 when my interests also turned to computers and the Arpanet. I've built my own machines, written operating systems for them, and developed software in persuit of my technical interests. I think that the "real hams" of the 80's did very similar things and enlarged their own worlds beyond the narrow view that the SPST switch throwers (CW dudes) seem to espouse as "real" ham radio. As the other "real hams" left the Dan types behind, they became insecure and increasingly strident. Ignore them. They not only don't matter any more, they are not "real hams" themselves. They are now merely old timers who couldn't keep up. You make some valid points there. And I probably fit most to all of that. Unfortunatly this has NOT happened to me since the 80s or before. It happened as soon as I came up to these newsgroups. And when the CB type of operations came to HF. And when CBers turned ham radio VHF/UHF into a pizza ordering service. Real Ham Radio is Morse Code, and decent Voice operations. All history. And I hate that. Your right. Dan/W4NTI |
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![]() "Lumushahs" wrote in message ... From: Jack Twilley I'm so glad I'm not an old, bitter, frustrated person. I might run the risk of being a real ham. There are young hams, and old hams (and all ages in between). Not all hams are old. I don't know any hams that are bitter.I don't think hams are frustrated either. (They seem to be comfortable with who they are). I don't know any "real" hams that are old, bitter, or frustrated. Okay. I know some that are old. But, your'e saying all real hams are old. Nor do I thing my age of 57 is 'OLD'. I'm no spring chicken but I sure hear a LOT of older folks on the air than I am. Dan/W4NTI |
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"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in
ink.net: "Jack Twilley" wrote in message ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 "Dan" == w4nti Dan writes: [...] Dan A real ham is the proper answer. Dan You know one that paid his dues, passed his tests in front of the Dan FCC. Demonstrated his abilty to not only receive....but to SEND Dan CW in front of the FCC examiners. And has 43 years of experience Dan since then. You know....a real ham. Dan Make of that what you must. Huh. I'm so glad I'm not an old, bitter, frustrated person. I might run the risk of being a real ham. Dan Dan/W4NTI Jack. (I'm happier being me, thanks.) - -- Jack Twilley jmt at twilley dot org And I'm so happy that I'm not a know it all, but learned nothing newguy that thinks he is the cats meow. Dan/W4NTI Jack may be relatively new, but I've been a ham for 24 years, 'real' or otherwise, and I'm also glad that I'm me and not you. |
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![]() "Alun" wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in ink.net: "Jack Twilley" wrote in message ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 "Dan" == w4nti Dan writes: [...] Dan A real ham is the proper answer. Dan You know one that paid his dues, passed his tests in front of the Dan FCC. Demonstrated his abilty to not only receive....but to SEND Dan CW in front of the FCC examiners. And has 43 years of experience Dan since then. You know....a real ham. Dan Make of that what you must. Huh. I'm so glad I'm not an old, bitter, frustrated person. I might run the risk of being a real ham. Dan Dan/W4NTI Jack. (I'm happier being me, thanks.) - -- Jack Twilley jmt at twilley dot org And I'm so happy that I'm not a know it all, but learned nothing newguy that thinks he is the cats meow. Dan/W4NTI Jack may be relatively new, but I've been a ham for 24 years, 'real' or otherwise, and I'm also glad that I'm me and not you. Dang Alun....one more thing we agree on. Dan/W4NTI |
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Subject: Morse and Contests
From: (William) Date: 5/11/2004 9:04 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... I told you that the zero in my callsign stood for the tenth district, not the zeroeth district. I understand that for Amateur Radio applications the ZERO in the callsign is for the tenth call district. Unlike you, I can think in the abstract. Then why did it take me to point it out to you??? It didn't. You still haven't got the message, I guess. I also understand there is only one numeral in your callsign. It IS ZERO. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's also only one numeral in your callsign, and it stands for only one numeral in the FCC's callsign districts. Yes...and it's NOT a ZERO. So are you. Obviously I'm a 10. Not when it comes to honesty you aren't. It really is THAT simple. Then why don't you get it??? I "get it" just fine, Brain. You're the one with a comprehension disorder. Sucks to be you. And so you call me a liar and an idiot, and insinuate that I'm not a man. You are a liar. No, I am telling the truth. Uh huh. You've made assertions about things you've allegedly done in Amateur Radio that you subsequently refuse to substantiate them with ANY form of proof. I've done them, yet I owe you no proof. You SAY you've done them. I say I've operated from Okinawa Japan. I can provide copies of old logs, and I bet if I wrote to 15th Air Force I could get a copy of my old authorization. I can also pony up a couple folks who were there when I did it. YOU say you operated from Somalia. You haven't supplied the callsign of ONE contact you made...Haven't provided a copy of ANY authorization from that operation, and can't even give us the name of your commander that allegedly gave you the permission. Heck...I'd be half tempted to give you the "benefit of the doubt" based ont eh "I was following orders" ruse if you'd even provide THAT much information. You haven't. SEVERAL folks have asked you to ante-up some facts. No facts = Brain's a liar. It really is THAT simple. You're an idiot because you keep exposing yourself to such ridicule even though you've been caught doing it over and over. There you go calling me names again. It's not "calling names" if it's true, Brain. I doubt you're much of a man because of your foolish regard for your own reputation and reckless behaviour in a public forum Steve, you're broken. I can't help you - broken people aren't my area of expertise. Go get fixed. Go get help. You don't seem to have ANY "area of expertise", Brain...Certainly not in Amatuer Radio. Get help. For what? Making a fool out of you? That's what I HAVE you for, PuppetBoy! Now...Tell us all about your hero Lennie...How proud you are to be associated with him...How you worked "portable" from Somalia without proper authorization to do so. Then you can ALSO provide us with SOME sort of proof to substantiate YOUR claim that "unlicensed radio services play a major role in disaster communications.... Welp, Steve, I had proper authorization to operate amateur radio in Somalia. Not from what you've posted here. Len is my hero because he doesn't back down from rabid dogs like you. Lennie is a documented pathological liar. And just like a broken watch, he get's one right once in a while. That still doen't make him any less of a liar and antagonist. If that's what you idolize, then just grit your teeth and take the flak coming your way, PuppetBoy. Cellular phones help people in emergencies every day, probably much more often than amateur radio and certainly more often than CW in any service. Too bad. No one sid it didn't. YOU said "Unlicensed services play a MAJOR role in disaster communications." I've asked you to provide me ONE instance where "unlicensed (Part 95 other than GMRS and Part 15) devices play a MAJOR role. Again...ANOTHER assertion you've made unsubstantiated by facts. We'll wait right here while you pony up an excuse for all of that....And THEN tell us who's "nuts"... No excuse offered. I'm good with where I'm at. But you're broken. Go get fixed. If you are "good with where (you're) at", then dysfunctional and mediocre are your milestones. Nice job. All you're good for are personal attacks. You have no honor. A declaration about honor from a person who subsidises lying and deception. That's cute. That's Brian Burke. Why am I not surprised...?!?! Putz. Steve, K4YZ |
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Morse and Contests From: (William) Date: 5/11/2004 9:04 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... personal assault snipped You've made assertions about things you've allegedly done in Amateur Radio that you subsequently refuse to substantiate them with ANY form of proof. I've done them, yet I owe you no proof. You SAY you've done them. OK. Both. I did them, and I say I did them. I say I've operated from Okinawa Japan. I can provide copies of old logs, and I bet if I wrote to 15th Air Force I could get a copy of my old authorization. I can also pony up a couple folks who were there when I did it. I'm not even interested. YOU say you operated from Somalia. You haven't supplied the callsign of ONE contact you made...Haven't provided a copy of ANY authorization from that operation, and can't even give us the name of your commander that allegedly gave you the permission. I don't need to. I owe you no proof. That's just the way it is. Get over it. Lots more personal attacks deleted. |
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"KØHB" wrote in message link.net...
"Jack Twilley" wrote If you were the average ham, Hans...... "Average" and "contesting" are incompatible concepts. Agreed! "Nothing average ever stood as a monument to progress. Not entirely true. Look at the "average" ham HF transceiver of, say, 40 years ago. Now look at the "average" ham HF transceiver today. Not the top-of-the-line, but rather what the middle of the pack can afford. I'd say there's been some progress, particularly in what such sets cost to buy new in terms of how many hours you have to work to buy one. Of course one of the big reasons the *average* rig is better is a trickle-down effect of techniques used on the top-of-the-line stuff. Which stuff exists in large part because of the market created by contesters and DXers. Or look at the features, capabilities and cost of the average PC compared to 5 or 10 years ago. Heck, the average new PC today is more powerful (by a whole bunch of measures) than the top-of-the-line machine of a few years ago - and it costs far less. So I'd say that the *average* can actually be a monument to progress. When progress is looking for a partner it doesn't turn to those who believe that they are only average. It turns instead to those who are forever searching and striving to become the best they possibly can. If we seek the average level, we cannot hope to achieve a higher level of success. Our only hope is to avoid being a failure." I agree 100% with that part. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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![]() "N2EY" wrote So I'd say that the *average* can actually be a monument to progress. Please never bother to apply for a position in my product development group. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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