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"William" wrote in message
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"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
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Amazing indeed. Now
he wants to call him on the phone to report traffic, tells us about HF
nets
on 275 that can't possible be there with his blabbing all the time.
What a
world class LID.

Dan/W4NTI

If only the code exam were 50wpm...

Wouldn't make a bit of difference. What would make a difference is if the
FCC run him off the bands.

Dan/W4NTI

The Baxter MAN is the god of the two-way. 10-4.
We love him on the 11 meter flip-flop. 10-4.
If you hammies don't want him we will gladly give
him a home on Channel 26. We all know he belongs
there. And thats the biggest 10-4 of them all!

Cousin Stevie on the side

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message thlink.net...
"King Zulu" wrote in message
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"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
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"Splinter" wrote in message
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On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 21:33:16 -0400, "Mr Ham Radio"
wrote:

K1MAN's program is GOOD, and should be left alone. If he has to go,
so
does
W1AW. Enough said, I have spoken. This is the way it WILL be.

I beg to differ. ARRL is within the guidelines of Part 97 of
the Commission's rules and. last I checked, knows that the frequency
is clear before starting their programs. Also, it's widely known and
accepted that W!AW has scheduled "All Station" announcements as well
as Code practice. All within the bounds of the rules.
K1MAN, as I understand it, doesn't care about if the frequency
is is use and walks over everyone in an attempt to gain financially
from selling his equipment over the air.

--
Dan, KD8AGU
Please remove ".nospam" to reply via email.

You have in basically correct Dan. K1MAN, is a radio bully. He seems
to
think that whatever he does, thinks, or wants to do takes priority over
everyone and everything else. Case in point...

For a period of about 2 years K1MAN vacated the frequency of 14.275.
During
that time several stations began operating there. One day up comes Glen
Baxter and he tells us to get off because it is time for his broadcast.
He
didn't ask, he didn't even attempt to be polite. He just decided it was
time to resume his trashcasting on ''HIS" frequency. A major fight
erupted
and the latest FCC action against him is the result of it.

Recently he decided to finally move off of the GA Sideband net frequency
of
3975, he moved up the band a bit and ordered the UFO network to get off
his
frequency. Same same from Baxter boy.

Several years before he had a major fight with the 3975 crowd.
Unfortunatly
the rebels capitulated.

Mr. Baxter is 'real popular' with the AM crowd in New England. Ask
them
about his ''full carrier AM'' signal on 3890 nightly.

Dan/W4NTI

Dan - Glenn has been running over nets and broadcasting inappropriate junk
so long (in 1998 he was wiping out the Sunday morning Bermuda Net on
14.275mHz) that I begin to wonder if current FCC people realize that it
has
been 17 years or more since the FCC was first going to fix the problem.
Baxter is not only a domestic problem, but an international embarrassment.
Hams in other countries are incredulous that the FCC cannot or will not do
something about him.

ak

Oh I know......I've been aware of MAN and his antics for many many years.
In fact I just turned on my 20 meter rig and I had it on 14.275....guess
what ? MAN must have decided to move back to 275 from 272.....but this
time he is playing THREE SEPERATE TAPES at the same time. I guess this is
his version of ''simotrash', eh?

Dan/W4NTI

On 12 Sep 2004 06:41:43 -0700, William wrote:

This is just another case where the FCC fell on it's face in the rules
making department. They tried to write a rule where only the ARRL
would qualify.

Legislators do this all the time. The U S Tax Code is loaded with
exemption clauses like "this does not apply to corporations
incorporated before 1930 for the purpose of transporting lumber
products along the Columbia River whose gross income is more than
one million dollars per annum...."

Let us not forget the famous Arizona law which makes it illegal to
buy an "Indian" a drink, which was intended for a particular "Indian"
but had to be broadly stated to escape Constitutional challenge, albeit
it was never broadly enforced.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

"Phil Kane" wrote in message
et...
[SNIP]
Let us not forget the famous Arizona law which makes it illegal to
buy an "Indian" a drink, which was intended for a particular "Indian"
but had to be broadly stated to escape Constitutional challenge, albeit
it was never broadly enforced.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

Fascinating. Could you fill us in on who that "Indian" was and the general
background? Most of us probably are not familiar with Arizona history.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:16:29 -0400, Dee D. Flint wrote:

Let us not forget the famous Arizona law which makes it illegal to
buy an "Indian" a drink, which was intended for a particular "Indian"
but had to be broadly stated to escape Constitutional challenge, albeit
it was never broadly enforced.

Fascinating. Could you fill us in on who that "Indian" was and the general
background? Most of us probably are not familiar with Arizona history.

I only know it by rumor, but my kid brother, who has the genuine
non-vanity call sign of KD7DX is a senior prosecutor in Phoenix so
I'll get the story from him.

QRX....

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

"Steve Baxter" wrote in message om...
The Baxter MAN is the god of the two-way. 10-4.
We love him on the 11 meter flip-flop. 10-4.
If you hammies don't want him we will gladly give
him a home on Channel 26. We all know he belongs
there. And thats the biggest 10-4 of them all!

Cousin Stevie on the side

What a great idea. Channel 26, the perfect place!

ak

[AS], Ltd.

P.O. Box HM ---- . Hamilton HM EX . Bermuda

[AS], F.B.C.O. Fax: (809) 295-0555 . Telephone: (809) 292-5555

August 21st. 1989

Mr. E. Pitman,

Government Telecommunications Officer,

Department of Telecommunications,

Hamilton.

Dear Ted,

I am faxing a transcript of the broadcast put out by K1MAN last week.

When you have read this I would like to have a meeting with you, maybe we could have lunch and discuss it then, to fill you in on what actually happened.

Your support with this would be appreciated. I have been to the American Consulate and will be writing a formal letter of complaint this week, requesting a public apology from K1MAN. He is advocating that I should lose my license for NOT passing third party traffic when the "world needed to know" and he had declared an emergency. He was doing this under the authority of the "FCC" according to him. I reminded him that we were not a State of the United States of America and that we were governed by the Department of Telecommunications and also the British arrangements for third party traffic. He could declare whatever he wanted to but until we had clearance, we would not pass it

No emergency had been declared and as far as we were concerned it was an unofficial net standing by in case we were needed should an emergency be declared. He did not like being informed that we were handling the situation ourselves very efficiently, without his help.

Please telephone me when it is convenient and I will explain more, or as I said, maybe we could have lunch.

Yours sincerely,

[AS] VP9--

Suite 201 . International Centre . Bermudiana Road . Hamilton . Bermuda

----------------------------------

This is a response to the editorial broadcast

by K1MAN after Hurricane Dean.

STATEMENT

K1MAN stated "IARN activated for Hurricane Dean as it neared Bermuda, Sunday August 6th. 1989 at 11.30 UTC. IARN Headquarters in Belgrade Lakes etc. received a call from [TS], VP9--, requesting assistance from IARN on 14.275mHz. Tony wants to activate 14.275mHz. . .etc. "

FACT - At 11.15 UTC, VP9-- & VP9__ activated the Bermuda net.

A broadcast was in progress and VP9-- decided to telephone KlMAN.

"We want 14.275mHz cleared due to the impending Hurricane."

Response from Glen Baxter, "No problem" and the telephone conversation finished.

FACT - At no time was a request made for IARN to assist or to activate.

FACT - KlMAN checked into the Bermuda net at 11.45 UTC and he was informed, (as were many others who had checked in) of the current situation in Bermuda.

STATEMENT

"Associated Press and therefore the entire world, was, de facto, cut off from the world of public information dissemination.......... up to the minute detail report, now assured that ham radio and IARN had a well established and well maintained link to Bermuda"

FACT - Glen Baxter was not on a well maintained link to Bermuda. He checked in and was given information the same as many other hams. The so called emergency was K1MAN generated and not an emergency in Bermuda. The reports of lack of readiness at 20.00 UTC were absolute poppycock. All of this information had been issued by the Bermuda Hams between the hours of 11.15 UTC and 13.00 UTC that Bermuda had been well prepared.

STATEMENT

by Glen Baxter ".....festival the previous Thursday which included a soccer match between teams on either end of the Island."

FACT - Again, poppycock. K1MAN had been informed that the Cup Match was a cricket game between St. Georges and Somerset, had been played, the result was a draw and everyone had a good time. The match was on Thursday and Friday when the storm was hundreds of miles away. This Information had been given hours earlier.

FACT - IARU had generated an emergency, no one else. Totally uncalled for "here is the important news we gathered for Associated Press." IARN were more interested in promoting themselves and Glen Baxter in particular and when he found that he was not wanted on the net and did not have control of it he resorted to terminological inexactitudes to achieve his ends.

FACT - Glen Baxter relayed conversations he had with VP9-- to Associated Press without the consent or knowledge OF VP9-- at the time. This is in contravention of International Law.

As an American citizen he has no right to assume Governmental authority and issue edicts to hams in other countries. At no time can he advocate publicly that licenses should be revoked and should he have any complaints then these should be directed through the Department of Telecommunications in Bermuda. His pontificating on people's attitudes and his declarations of emergencies allows him to promote himself and his organization in such a way that his approach does sound plausible. As they say you can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time and K1MAN does not fool any Bermuda Ham. His trip to Moscow paid for by the Young Communist League leaves one to suspect his motives and his reporting.

....

(NOTE: emphasis in red was added)

Splinter wrote:

On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:08:25 -0400, "Mr Ham Radio"
wrote:

K1MAN's schedule is also widely known, and is within the bounds of the
rules.

Your understanding is incorrect, as usual.

If W1AW can "broadcast", so can K1MAN. If you don't like the content of
K1MAN's broadcast, start your own. But for now, SHUT THE HELL UP.

I refuse to be drawn into a flame war, sir. Ovbiously I know
enough about Part 97 of the RULES to know that K1MAN is violating
them. I supposed I shall have to take the time here to bolster my
opinion with a few cold hard facts as stated in the commission rules.
§97.113(b) states "An amateur station shall not engage in any
form of broadcasting, nor may an amateur station transmit one-way
communications except as specifically provided in these rules; nor
shall an amateur station engage in any activity related to program
production or news gathering for broadcasting purposes, except that
communications directly related to the immediate safety of human life
or the protection of property may be provided by amateur stations to
broadcasters for dissemination to the public where no other means of
communication is reasonably available before or at the time of the
event." Is K1MAN violating this section of the rules...According to
Riley, that's a yes.
The commission rules also state that frequencies are open to
all licensed amateurs, correct? No one has the right to demand
someone depart the frequency because a person wished to use it.
Standard amateur practice ssays that an Amateur liosten to the
frequency and make a short question asking if the freq is in use.
Does K1MAN bother or just say "Get off MY frequency!"
§97.111(b) states "(b) In addition to one-way transmissions
specifically authorized elsewhere in this Part, an amateur station may
transmit the following types of one-way communications:

(1) Brief transmissions necessary to make adjustments to the station;
(2) Brief transmissions necessary to establishing two-way
communications with other stations;

(3) Telecommand;

(4) Transmissions necessary to providing emergency communications;

(5) Transmissions necessary to assisting persons learning, or
improving proficiency in, the international Morse code;

(6) Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins;

(7) Transmissions of telemetry. "

W1AW falls under Sub-Paragraphs 5 and 6 in that they issue
daily code practice runs as well as weekly bulletins or even relays
the word that the FCC is suspending the rules due to an emergency
situation. Tat's covered under sub-paragraph 4. All done in
accordance with the rules. buddy.
Does K1MAN do daily code practice sessions? Does K1MAN relay
information bulleting? and does K1MAN engage in transmissions to aid
emergency communications?
From what FCC is saying. the answer to all three is "No", but,
he stays just far enough below the FCC "radar" that nothing's being
done that people would want done.
Now...I've made the case here. Find a reason to knock it
down...if you dare.

--
Dan, KD8AGU
Please remove ".nospam" to reply via email.

If someone is nutty enough to support K1MAN, as this mrhamradio appears
to be, then reasoning and facts aren't going to have much effect.

Dan/W4NTI wrote:

"William" wrote in message
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"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message

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"Phil Kane" wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:10:54 -0400, Mike Coslo wrote:

But hasn't enough time passed for resolution of this problem even

done

that way, Phil? Here is a person in clear violation of many rules,

and

also in violation of criminal statutes too, and yet they must be
powerless to do anything.

Powerless they are not, but I don't walk in Riley's moccasins as to
whether the power is going to be exercised or not. HQ and I had
differening views on using letter-writing versus on-scene

enforcement

over the years.

Or IS the fact that the League has it's own broadcasts a nasty

sticking

point?

Who knows ??

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

Phil,

Whenever the subject of K1MAN comes up there is always some block head

that

insists on compairing him to W1AW.

During your tenure with the Feds did you happen to hear of a anti stupid
pill that would be available for these folks?

Dan/W4NTI

This is just another case where the FCC fell on it's face in the rules
making department. They tried to write a rule where only the ARRL
would qualify.

And you know this how? Did John Kerry or Al Gore tell you ?

Dan/W4NTI

Al Gore invented the rule...didn't you know?