(William) wrote in message . com...
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message ink.net...
Riley is not a Extra class.

Dan/W4NTI

Quote from several Extra's on RRAP, "So what's his problem?"

Which of "several Extra's", Brain?

There's only a few of us, so it can't be TOO hard to pony up a quote.

Re-quotes from posts, please? FACTS...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Hello, Steve

Whilst you folks argue on, I'm going to personally thank Mopar (a CBer, no
less) for getting me info on accessing the newsgroups in a decent fashion
after giving up my DSL account.

No one, CB, novice, technician, general, advanced, nor extra, has all of the
answers.

If we learn to live together, we might *all* learn something.

Think about it, guys.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


"Steve Robeson, K4CAP" wrote in message
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(William) wrote in message
. com...
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
ink.net...
Riley is not a Extra class.

Dan/W4NTI

Quote from several Extra's on RRAP, "So what's his problem?"

Which of "several Extra's", Brain?

There's only a few of us, so it can't be TOO hard to pony up a quote.

Re-quotes from posts, please? FACTS...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

"JAMES HAMPTON" wrote


No one, CB, novice, technician, general, advanced, nor extra, has all
of the
answers.

If we learn to live together, we might *all* learn something.



Talked to a young fella on the repeater the other day who introduced
himself by saying "my first personal is Jim and you're my first contact,
QSL?".

He seemed like a nice sort, delighted that he had just received his
shiny new call sign, and was anxious to make some new friends. Kinda
sounded like I felt when I put my new call sign on the air the first
time way back when, except probably brighter, cuz Jim is one of those
young computer jocks. Me, I still got problems with the LL scale on my
Pickett slide rule. Yep, I think Jim sounded brighter than me, quick to
catch on to things.

But I don't think Jim will be back on the repeater. Before I had a
chance to really get to know much about Jim, or even wrangle an invite
to lunch, another station, with an impressive "senior" call sign joined
the contact, flashed his shiny Radio Cop badge, and proceeded to issue
Jim a "verbal speeding ticket" for improper lingo on the radio. "Radio
Cop" said the term "personal" (and for that matter "handle") were
unwelcome in ham radio, and that Q-signals were not to be used on VHF
voice. Just generally made my newfound friend feel like an unwashed
interloper. (Gosh, I've been saying "handle" since I was a conditional
class. Slow to catch on, you know.)

Now I should point out that "Radio Cop" took pains to appear very well
meaning. Didn't use any bad words that I noticed, was quite polite, even
seemed like he was trying to be "helpful." In other words, he thought he
was doing Jim a favor by pointing out his transgression from our sacred
Amateur Radio way of doing things. I think Jim felt just the same way I
did back in a new school in third grade when the well meaning teacher
pointed out that "we don't keep our pencil behind our ear in this room."
Sure enough, I looked around and none of my new classmates had pencils
behind their ears. Sure was embarrassing, and at that moment I really
wished I was back with my good old buddies in second grade. Now, if I'd
been allowed to hang out a couple of days, I'm sure I would have learned
how to properly stow my pencil. And if Jim would have hung around a
couple of days on our repeater I just bet he would have noticed that his
lingo, perhaps learned in another radio service, was a bit out of place,
and pretty soon Jim would sound "just like the rest of us." Like I said,
he seemed pretty bright to me, quick to catch on to things.

"Radio Cop", you have kept our hobby uncorrupted. I heard Jim down
around 27 Mhz this morning, and saw his ad on eBay trying to sell his
barely used 2-meter HT. I'm gonna miss my new friend Jim, because I
think I could have learned something from him. Maybe you could have
also.

Like I said, he seemed pretty bright to me, quick to catch on to things.
But he left us. Wonder what he "caught on" to?

73, de Hans, K0HB

Subject: WHICH Extras, Brain?
From: "KØHB"
Date: 10/20/2004 3:36 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: . net

"Radio Cop", you have kept our hobby uncorrupted. I heard Jim down
around 27 Mhz this morning, and saw his ad on eBay trying to sell his
barely used 2-meter HT. I'm gonna miss my new friend Jim, because I
think I could have learned something from him. Maybe you could have
also.

Nice story, Hans.

Read one almost like it in CQ a few years ago.

Coincidence?

I don't think so.

Isn't it off season for trolling?

Steve, K4YZ

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


Nice story, Hans.


Thank you.


Read one almost like it in CQ a few years ago.

Coincidence?

I don't think so.


Naturally you'll decline to cite the issue in which you read the story
and provide proof of your slimy ill-disguised accusation of plagarism.

Coincidence?

I don't think so.

So I'll call your bluff, Steve. Cite the CQ issue which contained this
story, not written by me, and I'll send a public apology "Letter to the
Editor" to my buddy W2VU, Editor of CQ. Your move. Put up or shut up.

With warmest personal regards,

de Hans, K0HB

Subject: WHICH Extras, Brain?
From: "KØHB"
Date: 10/20/2004 5:37 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id: . net

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote


Nice story, Hans.


Thank you.


Read one almost like it in CQ a few years ago.

Coincidence?

I don't think so.


Naturally you'll decline to cite the issue in which you read the story
and provide proof of your slimy ill-disguised accusation of plagarism.

Nope...I'll dig for it.

As for "slimy"...That goes with your ill-disguised attempts to be an
upstanding human being.

Coincidence?

I don't think so.

So I'll call your bluff, Steve. Cite the CQ issue which contained this
story, not written by me, and I'll send a public apology "Letter to the
Editor" to my buddy W2VU, Editor of CQ. Your move. Put up or shut up.

Good question, Hans.

When I find it, I'll hand deliver it so I can film you eating it.

No need to send it to your "buddy", Rich. I'm not his "buddy" but I doubt
he'd be interested in pusblishing an "apology" that was a spin-off of a USENET
flame fest.

His character is a bit more robust than yours.

With warmest personal regards

What is it with you, Lennie and Brain making public statements you don't
mean...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Hello, Hans

This group could learn something, but I doubt most are able.

To the group:

I was on Guam when Hans provided communications that the U.S. Navy couldn't.
Yep, ol' stupid Hans loaded up a fence and contacted KG6AAY on Guam and
communications were passed directly to ComNavMar.

So go ahead and say what you may; I know better and so does Hans.

Grow up and try and do something constructive.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim - AA2QA

"KØHB" wrote in message
ink.net...


"JAMES HAMPTON" wrote


No one, CB, novice, technician, general, advanced, nor extra, has all
of the
answers.

If we learn to live together, we might *all* learn something.



Talked to a young fella on the repeater the other day who introduced
himself by saying "my first personal is Jim and you're my first contact,
QSL?".

He seemed like a nice sort, delighted that he had just received his
shiny new call sign, and was anxious to make some new friends. Kinda
sounded like I felt when I put my new call sign on the air the first
time way back when, except probably brighter, cuz Jim is one of those
young computer jocks. Me, I still got problems with the LL scale on my
Pickett slide rule. Yep, I think Jim sounded brighter than me, quick to
catch on to things.

But I don't think Jim will be back on the repeater. Before I had a
chance to really get to know much about Jim, or even wrangle an invite
to lunch, another station, with an impressive "senior" call sign joined
the contact, flashed his shiny Radio Cop badge, and proceeded to issue
Jim a "verbal speeding ticket" for improper lingo on the radio. "Radio
Cop" said the term "personal" (and for that matter "handle") were
unwelcome in ham radio, and that Q-signals were not to be used on VHF
voice. Just generally made my newfound friend feel like an unwashed
interloper. (Gosh, I've been saying "handle" since I was a conditional
class. Slow to catch on, you know.)

Now I should point out that "Radio Cop" took pains to appear very well
meaning. Didn't use any bad words that I noticed, was quite polite, even
seemed like he was trying to be "helpful." In other words, he thought he
was doing Jim a favor by pointing out his transgression from our sacred
Amateur Radio way of doing things. I think Jim felt just the same way I
did back in a new school in third grade when the well meaning teacher
pointed out that "we don't keep our pencil behind our ear in this room."
Sure enough, I looked around and none of my new classmates had pencils
behind their ears. Sure was embarrassing, and at that moment I really
wished I was back with my good old buddies in second grade. Now, if I'd
been allowed to hang out a couple of days, I'm sure I would have learned
how to properly stow my pencil. And if Jim would have hung around a
couple of days on our repeater I just bet he would have noticed that his
lingo, perhaps learned in another radio service, was a bit out of place,
and pretty soon Jim would sound "just like the rest of us." Like I said,
he seemed pretty bright to me, quick to catch on to things.

"Radio Cop", you have kept our hobby uncorrupted. I heard Jim down
around 27 Mhz this morning, and saw his ad on eBay trying to sell his
barely used 2-meter HT. I'm gonna miss my new friend Jim, because I
think I could have learned something from him. Maybe you could have
also.

Like I said, he seemed pretty bright to me, quick to catch on to things.
But he left us. Wonder what he "caught on" to?

73, de Hans, K0HB

Subject: WHICH Extras, Brain?
From: "JAMES HAMPTON"
Date: 10/21/2004 1:21 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Hello, Hans

This group could learn something, but I doubt most are able.

To the group:

I was on Guam when Hans provided communications that the U.S. Navy couldn't.
Yep, ol' stupid Hans loaded up a fence and contacted KG6AAY on Guam and
communications were passed directly to ComNavMar.

So go ahead and say what you may; I know better and so does Hans.

Grow up and try and do something constructive.

There's a lot of "constructive" things that can be done in this world,
Jim. We all do what we can and in our own ways.

No one doubts that Hans has done many of the things he has said. Indeed,
there is much documented to prove his assertions.

However that's not MY current issue with him.

It seems Hans has a problem with anyone threatening his "authority" or
daring to take his bluffs. I wrote a very benign letter to Rich, W2VU at CQ
magazine to try and locate the article that I remembered reading.

Hans felt it necessary to give Rich a "heads up" letter that could do
nothing but induce prejudice on Rich's part in finding the item to which I
refered.

P L E A S E show me the "constructiveness" or "fairness" of Hans'
actions.

Inquiring minds, etc etc etc....

73

Steve, K4YZ

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

I wrote a very benign letter to Rich, W2VU at CQ
magazine to try and locate the article that I remembered reading.


Here's why it looks familiar:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...ews.com&output
=gplain

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...1.deja.com&out
put=gplain

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...1.deja.com&out
put=gplain

I don't read CQ with any regularity so I don't know if it's in there or not.

73 de Jim, N2EY

"My name is Jim and despite being lectured to by numerous 'radio cops' and
'newsgroup cops', I'm still a radio amateur and still online"

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...


However that's not MY current issue with him.

It seems Hans has a problem with anyone threatening his "authority" or
daring to take his bluffs.

73

Steve, K4YZ


Oh, my! Did you guys trade shoes or something?