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Subject: amateur radio hypocrites
From: "Charles Brabham" Date: 12/3/2004 6:44 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Hans has a point, there. - But like most folks, I don't skate around the edges of the law while on the air; preferring to have a bit of cushion there. A little extra civility while on the air is a very good policy in my opinion, law or no law. And it's ON the air that I cited...But Hans, ever the bully and "King of the Hill", was just anxious to find a reason to justify his childish and ever-depreciating tone that he skipped over that part. Guess he thought no one would notice. Sucks to be him. Darned shame he logged all that (alleged) education, only to let it go to waste when it would do him the most good. I hope I age more gracefully than he has. That much anxiety and frustration only adds to your medical problems as you age. Steve, K4YZ "KØHB" wrote in message nk.net... "Steve Robeson K4YZ" wrote I dare you to say it over your Amateur Radio station knowing that the FCC is monitoring, Dee. I consider it profane, approximately or otherwise, and so does Uncle. Please use your assigned callsign, and make sure you remind all listeners that it's "merely" vulgar, and not "profane". I am sure they will be impressed as they write out the citation. First, this newsgroup isn't Amateur Radio and FCC doesn't give a rats ass what we write here. Second, even though "profane" or even "vulgar" language is in bad taste on Amateur Radio, it is not illegal so no citation has been (nor would be) issued for "profane" or "vulgar". Obscenity would get you a citation, but bull**** is not on the famous "7 words" list. Sunuvagun! 73, de Hans, K0HB The good old days ain't what they used to be, but then again, they never were. |
"Steve Robeson K4YZ" wrote ability to hold a person's attention just by being overbearing and abusive. Hey, "overbearing and abusive" I learned from you! I bow to the Master! Gotta love that "paternal parent fornicating scumbag" vulgarity-line of yours too. Nice! The "hypocrite" thing in the thread title sure fits you well, and you seem so prideful of it. Good job. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
Subject: amateur radio hypocrites
From: "KØHB" Date: 12/3/2004 7:37 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: "Steve Robeson K4YZ" wrote ability to hold a person's attention just by being overbearing and abusive. Hey, "overbearing and abusive" I learned from you! I bow to the Master! Gotta love that "paternal parent fornicating scumbag" vulgarity-line of yours too. But...but...but...HANS! None of THOSE words were on the "seven words" list either! Now, are you NOW saying that that list is NOT the definitive list of words you can't say...?!?! Or are you once again just exerting your bullyness Nice! The "hypocrite" thing in the thread title sure fits you well, and you seem so prideful of it. Good job. Oh NO, Hans, I bow to YOU! You, Lennie, and a short list of others who deem it necessary to deviate from civility and protocol in order to exert your will. You just seem to get very defensive and quick to claim victim status when it get's fed back to you. And as for alledging OTHERS to be "hypocrites, Hans...Who signs his posts with "73" after berating and demeaning the respondent...?!?! Sheeeeeeesh..... Do you shave BOTH of those faces, Hans, or just the one you're using at the moment? Steve, K4YZ |
"Steve Robeson K4YZ" wrote Gotta love that "paternal parent fornicating scumbag" vulgarity-line of yours too. But...but...but...HANS! None of THOSE words were on the "seven words" list either! Of course they're not. I just googled them up out your old posts to show how your pompous indignant hand-wringing about bad language rings as hollow as your empty morals. That, and to watch you jump like a puppet when we pull your strings. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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writes: The issue can't go the same as spark and AM as these two activities went different directions. Spark is simply not allowed due to the fact that it chews up so much spectrum. There's also the fact that hams simply stopped using spark in the early 1920s. "CW" (meaning "tube") rigs were so much more effective that by the time spark was outlawed for hams (1927), there were few if any hams still using it. Kind of like asking if anybody is using a 286-based computer to surf the 'net today. Oddly enough, spark was not completely banned from all other radio services until 1966. If you think our society today is undergoing rapid techological change, look at the development of radio (both amateur and nonamateur) from 1919 to 1929. On the other hand AM is still allowed and has developed into a niche subhobby of ham radio. Yep. In fact, it seems to me that AM has undergone a revival in the past 15-20 years. When I first got started in ham radio in the late 1960s, there were few hams using AM on HF compared to SSB. AM rigs that had been prized a decade or so earlier could be had for a song, and the number of hams on AM was dropping fast. When repeaters became popular in the 1970s, amateur VHF/UHF AM followed fast. But somewhere in the late 1980s-early 1990s the trend turned. Old AM rigs were fixed up and put back on the air. Newer hams, who had never been on AM before, began to show up on 3885 and other spots. Of course it's just IMHO, but it seems to me there is more AM activity on amateur HF today than 30-35 years ago - and it's growing. While the code test may go away, I doubt if code will be forbidden. And due to its usefulness, it's unlikely to descend to the small niche that AM has. I hope you're right, Dee. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in
: "Alun" wrote in message ... "Randy A. Hefner" wrote in : The problem with many (not all) ham radio operators is that they think they own the frequencies assigned to them and they have a "right" to use them. Neither is true! Randy KD4OWL "Psychiatrist to Hams" wrote in message ... "HammComm" wrote in message . com... K1MAN does it he's a jammer and a lid. W1AW does it it's a service to the amateur radio community. Hams are hypocrites, just little whiners who got their asses kick at school everyday now they think they're something. Hams like to whine & cry. To wit: -A.M. guys whined & cried about how sideband was the ruin of ham radio. -Incentive licensing ruined ham radio. -No code licenses will ruin ham radio. -ARRL is ruining ham radio. -KV4FZ will ruin ham radio. -K1MAN will ruin ham radio. -(this space reserved for future whining & crying.) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004 This whole thread so far seems like a troll, but if it is it's not really working, because you're right. There is a large contingent of hams who don't want anything to change, ever. For a technology based hobby that's a seriously weird POV, as the whole basis of technology is change itself. Change is as inevitable as death and taxes. FWIW, I have no problem with K1MAN, as I don't see much difference between his bulletins and those of W1AW. The only differences are of the same order as those between, say, ABC and CBS. The remedy is also the same, i.e. if you don't like one or the other, change the channel/frequency. The international requirement for a code test had a beginning and an end. It began in 1927, and ended in 2003. It wasn't there at the beginning of the hobby, and it's not there now. It's a pity that the FCC will take so long to do anything about it, but they will. Hopefully then this issue will go the same way as spark and AM. 73 de Alun, N3KIP The issue can't go the same as spark and AM as these two activities went different directions. Spark is simply not allowed due to the fact that it chews up so much spectrum. On the other hand AM is still allowed and has developed into a niche subhobby of ham radio. While the code test may go away, I doubt if code will be forbidden. And due to its usefulness, it's unlikely to descend to the small niche that AM has. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE I could see it one day becoming as much of a niche as AM. There are many other telegraphy modes in use. |
"Steve Robeson K4YZ" wrote in message ... Subject: amateur radio hypocrites From: "Charles Brabham" Date: 12/3/2004 6:44 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Hans has a point, there. - But like most folks, I don't skate around the edges of the law while on the air; preferring to have a bit of cushion there. A little extra civility while on the air is a very good policy in my opinion, law or no law. And it's ON the air that I cited...But Hans, ever the bully and Sorry, I wasn't paying any attention to your arguement. I was just responding to Hans' post. Charles, N5PVL |
Subject: amateur radio hypocrites
From: "KØHB" Date: 12/3/2004 8:23 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: "Steve Robeson K4YZ" wrote Gotta love that "paternal parent fornicating scumbag" vulgarity-line of yours too. But...but...but...HANS! None of THOSE words were on the "seven words" list either! Of course they're not. I just googled them up out your old posts to show how your pompous indignant hand-wringing about bad language rings as hollow as your empty morals. "Empty morals" coming from a guy who can't seem to decide which face to show today is a bit laughable, Hans. That, and to watch you jump like a puppet when we pull your strings. Then you admit that my reactions are due to your input. Thanks. Steve, K4YZ |
Subject: amateur radio hypocrites
From: "Dee D. Flint" Date: 12/4/2004 7:25 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: "Steve Robeson K4YZ" wrote in message ... Subject: amateur radio hypocrites From: "Dee D. Flint" Date: 12/3/2004 5:41 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: "Steve Robeson K4YZ" wrote in message ... Subject: amateur radio hypocrites From: "KØHB" Date: 12/3/2004 1:07 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: "Steve Robeson K4YZ" wrote Again with the profanities, Hans? Bull****. Unless you engage in religious worship males bovines, the word isn't profane. Sure is is. No it is merely a vulgarity not a profanity. Unfortunately people confuse the difference between the two. They are only approximately synonymous not exactly synonymous. I dare you to say it over your Amateur Radio station knowing that the FCC is monitoring, Dee. I consider it profane, approximately or otherwise, and so does Uncle. Please use your assigned callsign, and make sure you remind all listeners that it's "merely" vulgar, and not "profane". I am sure they will be impressed as they write out the citation. 73 Steve, K4YZ I would not use it over the air as vulgarity is also not allowed. Point. Game. Set. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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