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Dan/W4NTI February 27th 05 01:11 AM


wrote in message
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A real "communicator" will say 'key the mike', or 'key the

circuit'.

Dan/W4NTI


Sorry, but real "communicators" refer to "key" when they load an
encryption code.

BOL, bb


Poor Dan never got his crypto clearance... :-)



Oh dear....here he is again. Your right. I've been meaning to turn in my
decoder ring to the arms room ever since I left the KY-7 on the floor of the
room.

Screw off dip****.

Dan/W4NTI



Dan/W4NTI February 27th 05 01:12 AM


wrote in message
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From: "bb" on 23 Feb 2005 17:38:53 -0800

wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote on Feb 22 2005 9:58 am
Buy a rig, an antenna, and pay some people to put it up.
Presumably the
only requirement is to know how to read, talk and mash the PTT

button.

"Mash" the push-to-talk button? That means those
owners have to know where to get the PTT control
fixed! :-)


Yep, he said "mash," but must have been mistaken when he said they
would know how to read.

You see, people that use a microphone are clods. They would never
"depress" the ptt button, nor would they "press down" on it. They are


of low intelligence and barely human, and only know how to "mash" said


button. If no one is looking, they may actually step on the

microphone
with bare, dirty feet and yell into it.


[sounds like Dan of a few years ago, reminiscing of how hams
used to do early FM by YELLING into their VFOs...:-) ]

People who use a telegraph key are genteel. They know how to properly


close the contacts, form a character, and move on. They do so with
their pinkie finger extended, and have no dirt under their nails.


Agreed. Amateur morsemen are the very EPITOME of
"radio operators." None are their equal.

They are Superhams, faster than a speeding TTY, able to
jump tall pile-ups at a single bound. They wear hair shirts
emblazoned with a Big S and carry shiny Raddio Kopp
shields to ward off evildoers speaking of Change.

All who do not love, honor, worship, and obey them are
Full of Hate For All Radio Amateurs!

For it is written.


...in here. :-)




Poor Lenny the Loon is having another insecurity fit. Try some Alka
Seltzer.

Dan/W4NTI



Alun L. Palmer February 27th 05 03:22 AM

wrote in news:1109446458.805271.244940
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:


Alun L. Palmer wrote:
wrote in news:1109386325.451170.282470
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Alun L. Palmer wrote:
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. . test of - say - skill in solving transmission-line problems
with the Smith Chart...

73 de Jim, N2EY



There already are Smith Chart questions in the pool

Smith Charts became obsolete eons ago.

w3rv



It's much easier to use a Smith chart than to do the calculations


You don't need a Smith chart and you don't have to do the calculations
either.

http://www.circuitsage.com/matching.html

w3rv


I still have a pad of Smith charts. I don't have Mathcad. I have the same
attitude to this as I do to Morse, i.e. to each his own. I don't see
anything wrong in having test questions on either subject, as I think
people should know about them, I just don't think that there should be a
test on copying code by ear.

Mike Coslo February 27th 05 03:39 AM

Alun L. Palmer wrote:
wrote in news:1109446458.805271.244940
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:


Alun L. Palmer wrote:

wrote in news:1109386325.451170.282470
:


Alun L. Palmer wrote:

wrote in news:1109271864.160442.290220
:


. . test of - say - skill in solving transmission-line problems
with the Smith Chart...

73 de Jim, N2EY



There already are Smith Chart questions in the pool

Smith Charts became obsolete eons ago.

w3rv



It's much easier to use a Smith chart than to do the calculations


You don't need a Smith chart and you don't have to do the calculations
either.

http://www.circuitsage.com/matching.html

w3rv



I still have a pad of Smith charts. I don't have Mathcad. I have the same
attitude to this as I do to Morse, i.e. to each his own. I don't see
anything wrong in having test questions on either subject, as I think
people should know about them, I just don't think that there should be a
test on copying code by ear.


Smith charts are just as obsolete as Ohms law..............

- Mike KB3EIA -


bb February 27th 05 05:08 AM


Dan/W4NTI wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
A real "communicator" will say 'key the mike', or 'key the

circuit'.

Dan/W4NTI

Sorry, but real "communicators" refer to "key" when they load an
encryption code.

BOL, bb


Poor Dan never got his crypto clearance... :-)



Oh dear....here he is again. Your right. I've been meaning to turn

in my
decoder ring to the arms room ever since I left the KY-7 on the floor

of the
room.

Screw off dip****.

Dan/W4NTI


Do you eat with that dirty mouth?


bb February 27th 05 05:11 AM


Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"bb" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:


A real "communicator" will say 'key the mike', or 'key the

circuit'.

Dan/W4NTI


Sorry, but real "communicators" refer to "key" when they load an
encryption code.

BOL, bb

Oh yes indeed they do, as in KAC codes or the old antique KY-7

stuff, eh?
Well bb we are talking about ham radio. Of course I understand, LEN

the
LOON, that you have no understanding of that subject.

Tweek twit.

Dan/W4NTI


Now Dan, you're mixing metaphors.

You're either talking about "real communicators" or you're talking
about "ham radio" ops.

Which is it?


K4YZ February 27th 05 03:19 PM


bb wrote:
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"bb" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:


A real "communicator" will say 'key the mike', or 'key the
circuit'.

Dan/W4NTI

Sorry, but real "communicators" refer to "key" when they load an
encryption code.

BOL, bb

Oh yes indeed they do, as in KAC codes or the old antique KY-7

stuff, eh?
Well bb we are talking about ham radio. Of course I understand,

LEN
the
LOON, that you have no understanding of that subject.

Tweek twit.

Dan/W4NTI


Now Dan, you're mixing metaphors.

You're either talking about "real communicators" or you're talking
about "ham radio" ops.

Which is it?


In either case it's doubtful you're covered, so why sweat it?

Steve, K4YZ


Phil Kane February 27th 05 05:23 PM

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 21:39:00 -0500, Mike Coslo wrote:

Smith charts are just as obsolete as Ohms law..............


With some of the Russian-trained engineers whose work my wife has to
correct, Ohm's Law, as well as electrical codes, are mere "suggestions".

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane



[email protected] February 27th 05 07:00 PM


Alun L. Palmer wrote:
wrote in news:1109446458.805271.244940
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:




It's much easier to use a Smith chart than to do the calculations


You don't need a Smith chart and you don't have to do the

calculations
either.

http://www.circuitsage.com/matching.html

w3rv


I still have a pad of Smith charts. I don't have Mathcad. I have the

same
attitude to this as I do to Morse, i.e. to each his own. I don't see
anything wrong in having test questions on either subject, as I think


people should know about them, I just don't think that there should

be a
test on copying code by ear.


.. . "Test questions on Morse"? . . "People should know about Morse"?
How many WPM izzat??

You obviously didn't spend much time cruising the link I posted. You
don't have to have Mathcad to solve transmission line problems to get
away from the primitive paper and pencil nonsense. There are freely
available Excel and Java routines which will do the job too.

Mathcad . . ah, yes . . If you do any engineering math which gets
complicated in Excel you need Mathcad Alun. I've been using it for
about ten years and it's become absolutely indispensible. Maybe only a
half hour after I first loaded and fired Mathcad up those ten years
ago and started messing with it I was running rapid-fire "what-if's" on
a double integral I'd dreamed up as an exercise. Very intuitive.
Otherwise I wouldn't be able to run it. Heh.

'Tis an incredible solver which has saved me hundreds of hours of grunt
number crunching (and curve plotting BS) labor both on and off the job.
Don't believe the prices for it you see floating around the Web. My
latest iteration is v.2000 Pro ($800) which I bought in a
shrink-wrapped package for $65 at a local computer show after it was
one version outdated.

w3rv


[email protected] February 27th 05 07:11 PM

From: "Dan/W4NTI" on Sun, Feb 27 2005 12:10 am
"bb" wrote in message
roups.com...
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"Michael Coslo" wrote in message
...
bb wrote:
wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote on Feb 22 2005 9:58 am




BOL, bb

Oh yes indeed they do, as in KAC codes or the old antique KY-7 stuff,

eh?
Well bb we are talking about ham radio. Of course I understand, LEN

the
LOON, that you have no understanding of that subject.

Tweek twit.


Dan, did you get drunk again?

You are replying to Brian Burke, yet you think I am "bb."
You mixed-messed up.

Try to keep everyone straight.

Good luck on this one now...





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