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Mores code ham gets fined
Didn't think this could happen; someone operating
Morse code violating the rules.... from the ARRL web site newsletters: http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/05/0218/ The FCC has affirmed a $4000 fine for Paul D. Westcott, KC0OAB, of Purdy, Missouri, for "willful and repeated failure to respond to Commission requests for information about his station." The Commission released a Forfeiture Order in the case on February 16. The FCC reports it has received "numerous complaints" alleging that KC0OAB for several months now has been transmitting CW "24 hours a day, 7 days a week" on 7.030 MHz. While complainants assert the transmissions constitute broadcasting, the FCC contends they interfere with other amateur communications "due to an apparent lack of station control." |
robert casey wrote: Didn't think this could happen; someone operating Morse code violating the rules.... from the ARRL web site newsletters: http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/05/0218/ The FCC has affirmed a $4000 fine for Paul D. Westcott, KC0OAB, of Purdy, Missouri, for "willful and repeated failure to respond to Commission requests for information about his station." Morse Myth #999: Morse Ops are all that, too. |
robert casey wrote: Didn't think this could happen; someone operating Morse code violating the rules.... Sure it can happen! It's just very rare, that's all. When's the last time (before KC0AB) that a ham *operating Morse Code* got into that much trouble with FCC? from the ARRL web site newsletters: http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/05/0218/ The FCC has affirmed a $4000 fine for Paul D. Westcott, KC0OAB, of Purdy, Missouri, for "willful and repeated failure to respond to Commission requests for information about his station." The Commission released a Forfeiture Order in the case on February 16. The FCC reports it has received "numerous complaints" alleging that KC0OAB for several months now has been transmitting CW "24 hours a day, 7 days a week" on 7.030 MHz. While complainants assert the transmissions constitute broadcasting, the FCC contends they interfere with other amateur communications "due to an apparent lack of station control." The guy has his station set up to send Bible verses 24/7. Claims it's "code practice", and maybe it is. The violation isn't for his on-air behavior, but for his refusal to respond to repeated FCC requests for information. I've heard the guy, and I don't consider what he does to be interference. But he should have responded to FCC long long ago. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
I recall many times -- one guy sent a four letter word over and over again
in CW with no ID -- local Hams found him turned him in Gee what was he thinking -- no ID and obsentities - probably had TVI too (;-( -- Caveat Lector (Reader Beware) Help The New Hams Someone Helped You Or did You Forget That ? wrote in message oups.com... robert casey wrote: Didn't think this could happen; someone operating Morse code violating the rules.... Sure it can happen! It's just very rare, that's all. When's the last time (before KC0AB) that a ham *operating Morse Code* got into that much trouble with FCC? from the ARRL web site newsletters: http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/05/0218/ The FCC has affirmed a $4000 fine for Paul D. Westcott, KC0OAB, of Purdy, Missouri, for "willful and repeated failure to respond to Commission requests for information about his station." The Commission released a Forfeiture Order in the case on February 16. The FCC reports it has received "numerous complaints" alleging that KC0OAB for several months now has been transmitting CW "24 hours a day, 7 days a week" on 7.030 MHz. While complainants assert the transmissions constitute broadcasting, the FCC contends they interfere with other amateur communications "due to an apparent lack of station control." The guy has his station set up to send Bible verses 24/7. Claims it's "code practice", and maybe it is. The violation isn't for his on-air behavior, but for his refusal to respond to repeated FCC requests for information. I've heard the guy, and I don't consider what he does to be interference. But he should have responded to FCC long long ago. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
Caveat Lector wrote: I recall many times -- one guy sent a four letter word over and over again in CW with no ID -- local Hams found him turned him in Gee what was he thinking -- no ID and obsentities - probably had TVI too (;-( When was that? 73 de Jim, N2EY -- Caveat Lector (Reader Beware) Help The New Hams Someone Helped You Or did You Forget That ? wrote in message oups.com... robert casey wrote: Didn't think this could happen; someone operating Morse code violating the rules.... Sure it can happen! It's just very rare, that's all. When's the last time (before KC0AB) that a ham *operating Morse Code* got into that much trouble with FCC? from the ARRL web site newsletters: http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/05/0218/ The FCC has affirmed a $4000 fine for Paul D. Westcott, KC0OAB, of Purdy, Missouri, for "willful and repeated failure to respond to Commission requests for information about his station." The Commission released a Forfeiture Order in the case on February 16. The FCC reports it has received "numerous complaints" alleging that KC0OAB for several months now has been transmitting CW "24 hours a day, 7 days a week" on 7.030 MHz. While complainants assert the transmissions constitute broadcasting, the FCC contends they interfere with other amateur communications "due to an apparent lack of station control." The guy has his station set up to send Bible verses 24/7. Claims it's "code practice", and maybe it is. The violation isn't for his on-air behavior, but for his refusal to respond to repeated FCC requests for information. I've heard the guy, and I don't consider what he does to be interference. But he should have responded to FCC long long ago. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
About 1982 in San Jose, CA area
-- Caveat Lector (Reader Beware) wrote in message oups.com... Caveat Lector wrote: I recall many times -- one guy sent a four letter word over and over again in CW with no ID -- local Hams found him turned him in Gee what was he thinking -- no ID and obsentities - probably had TVI too (;-( When was that? 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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I recall many times -- one guy sent a four letter word over and over again in CW with no ID -- local Hams found him turned him in Gee what was he thinking -- no ID and obsentities - probably had TVI too (;-( One of the ham magazines did an article about some hams tracking down a rogue automatic transmitter that would from time to time transmit in FM audio tone Morse code something like "JPI SUX" on a popular 2m repeater input. The "JPI" being the suffix of the license of one of the officials of the repeater club. Eventually the rogue transmitter was found in a wildlife preserve desert area. Battery operated transmitter coupled to an auto id board and a ground plane antenna hidden in some weeds. Hard to DF a transmitter that only fires up at random every few hours for a few seconds. Seems they never did figure out who done it.... |
On 19 Feb 2005 18:31:04 -0800, bb wrote:
I don't think the FCC has anyone in a monitoring position that can copy Morse Code anymore. You are so wrong. Every FCC "technical enforcement agent" (used to be called field engineers and monitoring technicians) still has to be and remain qualified at 16 wpm groups/20 wpm plain-language. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane |
"Phil Kane" wrote in message ganews.com... On 19 Feb 2005 18:31:04 -0800, bb wrote: I don't think the FCC has anyone in a monitoring position that can copy Morse Code anymore. You are so wrong. Every FCC "technical enforcement agent" (used to be called field engineers and monitoring technicians) still has to be and remain qualified at 16 wpm groups/20 wpm plain-language. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Hello, Phil I'd have given anything to see those folks monitoring KG6AAY that day I found out they (the U.S. Navy) monitored *everything* transmitted at the ham shack on the U.S. Naval Communications Station on Guam. One of the guys asked what the heck I was doing (he told me about the monitoring, I had consumed several "beverages" - read "beer" - and I was at the low end of 40). I told him I was calling CQ. He said "That's not CQ". I assured him it was - in American Land-Line Morse. Of course, after the initial call sign was sent, I purposely slowed down and sent "KG6AAY" slowly in International Morse. Lo and behold, an old-timer came back - in American Morse. When the other guy realized what I was doing, he started laughing. The tears were streaming down our faces. We chatted for half an hour. I'd love to guess how long those guys poured over those tapes figuring out what secret message I was sending. The Navy removed the refrigerator (and beer) within a week .... :)) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
Before the Federal Communications Commission Washington, D.C. 20554 In the Matter of Paul D. Westcott Purdy, MO 65734 Licensee of Amateur Radio Station KC0OAB ) ) ) ) ) ) ) File No. EB-04-KC-135 NAL/Acct. No. 200532560001 FRN 0007599210 FORFEITURE ORDER Adopted: February 14, 2005 Released: February 16, 2005 By the Assistant Chief, Enforcement Bureau: 1. In this Forfeiture Order ("Order"), we issue a monetary forfeiture in the amount of four thousand dollars ($4,000) to Paul D. Westcott, licensee of amateur radio station KC0OAB, for willful and repeated failure to respond to Commission requests for information about his station, pursuant to Section 308(b) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended ("Act").[1] 2. On November 30, 2004, the District Director of the Commission's Kansas City Field Office ("Kansas City Office") issued a Notice of Apparent Liability for Forfeiture ("NAL") in the amount of $4,000 to Mr. Westcott.[2] Mr. Westcott has not filed a response to the NAL. Based on the information before us, we affirm the forfeiture. 3. ACCORDINGLY, IT IS ORDERED that, pursuant to Section 503(b) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended ("Act"),[3] and Sections 0.111, 0.311 and 1.80(f)(4) of the Commission's Rules,[4] Paul D. Westcott IS LIABLE FOR A MONETARY FORFEITURE in the amount of $4,000 for willfully and repeatedly failing to respond to Commission requests for information about his station. 4. Payment of the forfeiture shall be made in the manner provided for in Section 1.80 of the Rules within 30 days of the release of this Order. If the forfeiture is not paid within the period specified, the case may be referred to the Department of Justice for collection pursuant to Section 504(a) of the Act.[5] Payment by check or money order may be mailed to Forfeiture Collection Section, Finance Branch, Federal Communications Commission, P.O. Box 73482, Chicago, Illinois 60673-7482. Payment by overnight mail may be sent to Bank One/LB 73482, 525 West Monroe, 8th Floor Mailroom, Chicago, IL 60661. Payment by wire transfer may be made to ABA Number 071000013, receiving bank Bank One, and account number 1165259. The payment should note NAL/Acct. No. 200532560001, and FRN 0007599210. Requests for full payment under an installment plan should be sent to: Chief, Revenue and Receivables Group, 445 12th Street, S.W., Washington, D.C. 20554.[6] 5. IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that a copy of this Order shall be sent by First Class Mail and Certified Mail Return Receipt Requested to Paul D. Westcott at his address of record. FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION George R. Dillon Assistant Chief, Enforcement Bureau -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- robert casey wrote: Didn't think this could happen; someone operating Morse code violating the rules.... from the ARRL web site newsletters: http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/05/0218/ The FCC has affirmed a $4000 fine for Paul D. Westcott, KC0OAB, of Purdy, Missouri, for "willful and repeated failure to respond to Commission requests for information about his station." The Commission released a Forfeiture Order in the case on February 16. The FCC reports it has received "numerous complaints" alleging that KC0OAB for several months now has been transmitting CW "24 hours a day, 7 days a week" on 7.030 MHz. While complainants assert the transmissions constitute broadcasting, the FCC contends they interfere with other amateur communications "due to an apparent lack of station control." |
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wrote: There's always been "monkey business" here and there in the "CW bands". The notion held by some that the CW bands are some sort of pristine Radio Nirvana where there are no sinners is complete nonsense and/or wishful thinking. Go all the way back to the 1950s around 3.505 and thereabouts on cold midnites when one could almost hear all the guys listening for some DX to pop up. Got tiresome but we hung in. On any number of occasions some bush-league miscreant would get tired of listening to the noise floor and just for the hell of it would decide to generate a pileup. I dunno how many times I worked "6L6GB". "QSL via the buro". Yeah, right. The W9 buro. Even Jack VE1ZZ the Lord High Commissioner of 80M dxing couldn't resist jumping into those frays if they were really good ones. w3rv Welp, there you have it. |
I dunno how many times I worked "6L6GB". "QSL
via the buro". Yeah, right. ROTFLMAO! You probably did work someone who had a 6L6GB vacuum tube final in his transmitter....... :-) Others: 6u6gt 6w6gt 6w4gta 6y6ga 6k5gt 6k8gt 6j5gt 6a8gt 5z4gt 5x4ga 5r4gyb 5u4gb 3q5gt 2w3gt |
robert casey wrote: I dunno how many times I worked "6L6GB". "QSL via the buro". Yeah, right. ROTFLMAO! You probably did work someone who had a 6L6GB vacuum tube final in his transmitter....... :-) No doubt. But most of the serious 80M dxers in those days ran "suds", a lotta power, not just a lotta power but 'WAY too much power. Back then the max allowable power was one kW input vs. today's 1.5kW output. Any number of the Really Big Guns used homebrewed amps which tossed out a kilowatt's worth of heat alone. Or more. And those beasts weren't lossy linears either. Which is another example of blatent "impurity" in the CW bands. Offhand I'd be willing to bet that there are far fewer instances of busting the power limits today than there were back then. The FCC took the easy way out of having to bother with enforcing the power limits by roughly tripling the max allowable power input, clever labor-avoiding folk that they are. That move plus economics, the drying up of the WW2 parts sources and the need for linear amps have "solved" the excesss power problem and brought most of those bad old boys and their descendants into "compliance" today. Others: 6u6gt 6w6gt 6w4gta 6y6ga 6k5gt 6k8gt 6j5gt 6a8gt 5z4gt 5x4ga 5r4gyb 5u4gb 3q5gt 2w3gt "Tube callsigns" were a favorite but there were others and some were a tad on the raunchy side. 4Q2?? showed up more than once. Whatever it took to get some giggles. w3rv |
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wrote: Caveat Lector wrote: I recall many times -- one guy sent a four letter word over and over again in CW with no ID -- local Hams found him turned him in Gee what was he thinking -- no ID and obsentities - probably had TVI too (;-( When was that? 73 de Jim, N2EY -- There's always been "monkey business" here and there in the "CW bands". Of course! The notion held by some that the CW bands are some sort of pristine Radio Nirvana where there are no sinners is complete nonsense and/or wishful thinking. I don't recall anybody saying they were perfect. Just a lot better behaved. Go all the way back to the 1950s around 3.505 and thereabouts on cold midnites when one could almost hear all the guys listening for some DX to pop up. Got tiresome but we hung in. On any number of occasions some bush-league miscreant would get tired of listening to the noise floor and just for the hell of it would decide to generate a pileup. I dunno how many times I worked "6L6GB". A certain other local OT DXer sez it was "5U4GB" "QSL via the buro". Yeah, right. The W9 buro. Wrong end of the burro, too. Even Jack VE1ZZ the Lord High Commissioner of 80M dxing couldn't resist jumping into those frays if they were really good ones. All of which was pretty harmless compared to, say, intentional jamming, cussing, threats, interference to genuine public service comms, etc. Most of all - did FCC ever get involved? Were there complaints? Or was it just a bit of shenanigans on the QRG? Look at the enforcement letters *today* and see what the charges are. And what modes are used. It ain't about a couple of CW DXers working a slim. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
robert casey wrote: I dunno how many times I worked "6L6GB". "QSL via the buro". Yeah, right. ROTFLMAO! You probably did work someone who had a 6L6GB vacuum tube final in his transmitter....... :-) Others: 6u6gt 6w6gt 6w4gta 6y6ga 6k5gt 6k8gt 6j5gt 6a8gt 5z4gt 5x4ga 5r4gyb 5u4gb 3q5gt 2w3gt Let's not leave out: RG8U F0OL AP1RL UR1TOO VO1LA Dave K8MN |
Caveat Lector wrote: About 1982 in San Jose, CA area -- Caveat Lector (Reader Beware) So we get a serious (?) enforcement action for hams using CW every decade or so. Compared to how many for other modes? 73 de Jim, N2EY wrote in message oups.com... Caveat Lector wrote: I recall many times -- one guy sent a four letter word over and over again in CW with no ID -- local Hams found him turned him in Gee what was he thinking -- no ID and obsentities - probably had TVI too (;-( When was that? 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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A walk down memory lane ..... brought up some good memories .....
73 .... Tom Popovic KI3R Belle Vernon Pa. On any number of occasions some bush-league miscreant would get tired of listening to the noise floor and just for the hell of it would decide to generate a pileup. I dunno how many times I worked "6L6GB". "QSL via the buro". Yeah, right. The W9 buro. Even Jack VE1ZZ the Lord High Commissioner of 80M dxing couldn't resist jumping into those frays if they were really good ones. |
No doubt. But most of the serious 80M dxers in those days ran "suds", a lotta power, not just a lotta power but 'WAY too much power. Back then the max allowable power was one kW input vs. today's 1.5kW output. Have heard what is likely an urban legend of a ham (who was also a broadcast chief engineer) using the 50KW AM transmitter in his charge to work some rare DX on some HF ham band. Late at night when it was off for maintenance. Seems unlikely as the power amp would have circuits tuned for the MW AM broadcast station's frequency and low pass filters to block harmonics in the SW spectrum. That's not something one can modify in a few minutes. Oh, you could connect a ham transceiver to the broadcast antenna tower to work some 160m DX, but that would be legal. |
robert casey wrote: No doubt. But most of the serious 80M dxers in those days ran "suds", a lotta power, not just a lotta power but 'WAY too much power. Back then the max allowable power was one kW input vs. today's 1.5kW output. Have heard what is likely an urban legend of a ham (who was also a broadcast chief engineer) using the 50KW AM transmitter in his charge to work some rare DX on some HF ham band. Late at night when it was off for maintenance. Seems unlikely as the power amp would have circuits tuned for the MW AM broadcast station's frequency and low pass filters to block harmonics in the SW spectrum. That's not something one can modify in a few minutes. It would be pretty easy to pull off so it wouldn't surprise at all me if somebody really did put an AM b'cast station on 160. Oh, you could connect a ham transceiver to the broadcast antenna tower to work some 160m DX, but that would be legal. A similar stunt absoulutely was pulled off and I know the parties very well. There were two young hotshot DX conetesters back around 1965, Paul WA3FFR and his buddy Doug whose call I can't remember. Paul was an EE co-op student engineer at my alma mater and worked at the USCG electronics labs in Cape May NJ. Doug was a CG ensign or maybe a Lt JG and worked with Paul. Those labs were the headquarters for the vast USCG Loran system which operated on 160 along with the hams who could find holes in the Loran QRM. Paul and Doug decided to put a Loran antenna system to work in a 160 DX contest. And they did. They blew the lid off the band and came up with a score which which rewrote the 160M dxing record book, worked something like 68 countries in one weekend.'Ole Stew Perry never knew what hit him. Unthinkable back then and not bad at all even today. w3rv |
wrote: Those labs were the headquarters for the vast USCG Loran system which operated on 160 along with the hams who could find holes in the Loran QRM. Paul and Doug decided to put a Loran antenna system to work in a 160 DX contest. And they did. They blew the lid off the band and came up with a score which which rewrote the 160M dxing record book, worked something like 68 countries in one weekend.'Ole Stew Perry never knew what hit him. Unthinkable back then and not bad at all even today. w3rv This is the part where K4YZ demands a letter from "thier" Commander. "Sorry Kelly, USCG LORAN IS Amateur Radio!" Hi, hi! |
robert casey wrote:
Have heard what is likely an urban legend of a ham (who was also a broadcast chief engineer) using the 50KW AM transmitter in his charge to work some rare DX on some HF ham band. Late at night when it was off for maintenance. Seems unlikely as the power amp would have circuits tuned for the MW AM broadcast station's frequency and low pass filters to block harmonics in the SW spectrum. That's not something one can modify in a few minutes. Oh, you could connect a ham transceiver to the broadcast antenna tower to work some 160m DX, but that would be legal. The late WB8LUA was chief engineer at WNOP, a Newport, Kentucky 1,000 watt daytimer with transmitters in suburban Cincinnati. They used a three tower critical array and all three towers were about 295 feet tall. Len would disconnect the feeders after sign-off and fire up on 160m through a Dentron tuner at the base of one tower. His barefoot sigs were incredible. Unfortunately for him, his TS-820's receiver was eaten alive by broadcast band overload. An old time W2 in New Jersey (still living) was nailed by the FCC for running 35 KW from his home in the early 1970's. He beat the rap on a technicality and is involved in "hi-fi" SSB audio on 20m in his dotage. Dave K8MN |
bb wrote: wrote: Those labs were the headquarters for the vast USCG Loran system which operated on 160 along with the hams who could find holes in the Loran QRM. Paul and Doug decided to put a Loran antenna system to work in a 160 DX contest. And they did. They blew the lid off the band and came up with a score which which rewrote the 160M dxing record book, worked something like 68 countries in one weekend.'Ole Stew Perry never knew what hit him. Unthinkable back then and not bad at all even today. w3rv This is the part where K4YZ demands a letter from "thier" Commander. Why would I? "Sorry Kelly, USCG LORAN IS Amateur Radio!" It's a darned shame that you can't handle more than one concept in a 12 calendar month period, Brain. But then it does makes it a lot easier to keep you on a leash. Heel, boy. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: wrote: Those labs were the headquarters for the vast USCG Loran system which operated on 160 along with the hams who could find holes in the Loran QRM. Paul and Doug decided to put a Loran antenna system to work in a 160 DX contest. And they did. They blew the lid off the band and came up with a score which which rewrote the 160M dxing record book, worked something like 68 countries in one weekend.'Ole Stew Perry never knew what hit him. Unthinkable back then and not bad at all even today. w3rv This is the part where K4YZ demands a letter from "thier" Commander. Why would I? "Sorry Kelly, USCG LORAN IS Amateur Radio!" It's a darned shame that you can't handle more than one concept in a 12 calendar month period, Brain. But then it does makes it a lot easier to keep you on a leash. Heel, boy. Steve, K4YZ Nurse, heel thyself. |
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