At 52 I am one of the "young guys here." The "amateur hobby radio'ists"
here have managed to chase away most if not all--down to the very last
REAL young guy away.

They do this with personal attacks on those of differing opinions. They
deny facts and figure. Like a bunch of shyster accountants they bend
figures to attempt to argue for the status quo.

Like a bunch of lawyers they attempt to bend the words of Haynie into an
"Atta Boy", while in reality he chastises them for ill behavior and
damaging the hobby.

There are no young hams here for a darn good reason--few have a skin
thick enough to have staying power. And then, you have those who just
have better things to do....

These guys who have stagnated the hobby are attempting to maintain the
status quo even as the hobby dips to low numbers, cannot achieve even
minor new band allocations and are ineffective in even limiting
BPL--broadband over powerline--simply because they have managed to put
the amateur radio hobby so far on the back burner most have forgotten of
its existence... and this they are quite happy with, clear bands so they
can rag chew with buddies over rants and medical problems is what they
really seek...

If you are in your 30 and under you will have a hard time staying
here--unless you like turning your nose brown...

Warmest regards,
John
--
Watching the cutting edge of yesterday replay--in virtual reality, right
before my eyes--in real time!
Thirty year old technology--wasn't it amazing?