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Old June 13th 05, 05:29 AM
 
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K=D8HB wrote:
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I also disagree because when you get right down
to it it's functionally the same as using the spots.


No, it's not functionally equivalent. If you use cluster spots, then you=

are
using information the some OTHER RADIOMAN at a DIFFERENT STATION provided=

.. If
you have your own robo-hound searching FROM YOUR STATION then you acquire=

d the
information of the air without assistance from outside sources.


If you work a mult you didn't find with your own ears you're using
assistance. =20
=20
73, de Hans, K0HB


w3rv

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If you work a mult you didn't find with your own
ears you're using assistance.


Truely I could argue that any aid in your station is "assistance" --- but not
OUTSIDE assistance. Dupe sheets and electric pencil sharpeners are "assistance"
at some stations!

If you can harness technology to gain some advantage in the radiosport game, so
long as that technology is in YOUR station and under YOUR control, then more
power to you. Only if that assistance originates at ANOTHER station as the
result of efforts of other radiomen (ie., cluster spots), then your log should
no longer qualify as an SO entry.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

73, de Hans, K0HB



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K=D8HB wrote:
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If you work a mult you didn't find with your own
ears you're using assistance.


Truely I could argue that any aid in your station is "assistance" --- but=

not
OUTSIDE assistance. Dupe sheets and electric pencil sharpeners are "assi=

stance"
at some stations!

If you can harness technology to gain some advantage in the radiosport ga=

me, so
long as that technology is in YOUR station and under YOUR control, then m=

ore
power to you. Only if that assistance originates at ANOTHER station as t=

he
result of efforts of other radiomen (ie., cluster spots), then your log s=

hould
no longer qualify as an SO entry.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!


OK, OK, OK! SHEEEESH . . #@%x#$ . . . !=20

=20
73, de Hans, K0HB


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Old June 14th 05, 01:17 AM
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Why do I contest? To improve my score by improving my station and
myself.

Its as simple as that.

Have a good day

PS; I worked a bunch of sporadic skip yesterday on six meters in the
June VHF contest.....with 8 watts and a 3 ele yagi at 20'.

It's all a matter of perspective.

Dan/W4NTI



I and the OM also worked some of the VHF contest and noticed a very
strange thing. Only 10% of the contacts that we made were Technician
operators. On the other hand, 80% of them were Extra class operators. So
where are all the Techs who are "trapped" in VHF and above because they
"can't" pass the code (as some would have us believe)?

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Hey Dee,

Good question actually. Perhaps they are part of the vast majority of hams
that are inactive.

More likely they are all "stuck" on FM and have not a clue what else is
going on with V/Uhf. What a shame.

Dan/W4NTI


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Old June 14th 05, 01:19 AM
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Dee Flint wrote:

I and the OM also worked some of the VHF contest and noticed a very
strange
thing. Only 10% of the contacts that we made were Technician operators.
On
the other hand, 80% of them were Extra class operators. So where are all
the Techs who are "trapped" in VHF and above because they "can't" pass
the
code (as some would have us believe)?


It's Techs being Techs again, they're too busy "advancing the state of
the art" to be bothered with learning the code and contesting.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


w3rv


BWAHHHHHHHHH....we both know the "Tech" license stopped being technical in
nature way back in the early 60s.

And MOST VHF/UHF contesting is done in SSB mode.

Dan/W4NTI




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Old June 14th 05, 01:39 AM
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:

Winning is beating the Yankee Clippers. Try operating at that "level"
for the ultimate contesting experience.


73 de Jim, N2EY


w3rv

You got that right. Keep an eye on W4AN. The new call for the SECC
(South
East Contest Club). NQ4I is another super station to watch for. Also
SECC.


Uh-oh! This is news to me. A real three-way brawl amongst the
Unlimiteds would inject some new fire into the game for certain. But
you better be able to pull up around 250 Meg aggregate to get into it.


Dan/W4NTI



Oh I know.... I know....keep a watch for the SECC. Were on the way.

Dan/W4NTI


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KØHB wrote:
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If you work a mult you didn't find with your own
ears you're using assistance.


Truely I could argue that any aid in your station is "assistance" --- but
not
OUTSIDE assistance. Dupe sheets and electric pencil sharpeners are
"assistance"
at some stations!

If you can harness technology to gain some advantage in the radiosport
game, so
long as that technology is in YOUR station and under YOUR control, then
more
power to you. Only if that assistance originates at ANOTHER station as
the
result of efforts of other radiomen (ie., cluster spots), then your log
should
no longer qualify as an SO entry.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!


OK, OK, OK! SHEEEESH . . #@%x#$ . . . !


73, de Hans, K0HB



I don't know about all you big guns but I need all the help I can get.

But I still do it the old fashioned way. I hunt and find.

Dan/W4NTI



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I hear real estate is very reasonably priced in VY0-land.

73, de Hans, K0HB


But Hans......won't the SB-220 melt the igloo?

Dan/W4NTI



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