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![]() "bb" wrote in message oups.com... Dan/W4NTI wrote: "bb" wrote in message oups.com... and I did not pass. In retrospect, this must have been the diff between Morse Code and the advent of the ARRL VEC use of the Farnsworth Code. I'm not sure I understand that. As I remember the FCC universally used those paper tape machines. And the method, although not called Farnsworth that I can recall, was the same. I.E. Code sent at a fast rate with spacing larger. This is the Farnsworth method. Of course I may be wrong. But explain what you mean. Dan/W4NTI |
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![]() "Mike Coslo" wrote Who do ya want - a impatient knob twiddler with a FTDX 9000 and an antenna farm of (insert your favorite antenna here), or a good capable contester with say a dipole and an IC-746. Your example is specious, Mike. Generally the contester who builds a competition grade station has also invested in building the skills and techniques to take advantage of the capabilities they have sought in their station design. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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KØHB wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote Who do ya want - a impatient knob twiddler with a FTDX 9000 and an antenna farm of (insert your favorite antenna here), or a good capable contester with say a dipole and an IC-746. Your example is specious, Mike. Generally the contester who builds a competition grade station has also invested in building the skills and techniques to take advantage of the capabilities they have sought in their station design. 73, de Hans, K0HB Generally but not always, Hans. Here's an example: Joe Moneybags has always admired the photos which Hans Brakob takes. He notes that Hans always uses a top of the line Nikon. Joe sells his Canon and buys the expensive Nikon. His photos are still not up to the Brakob standard. Joe fails to realize that the skill of the photographer is more important than the price or model of the camera. You have to have seen something similar a dozen times in DXing or contesting. Dave K8MN |
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KØHB wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote Who do ya want - a impatient knob twiddler with a FTDX 9000 and an antenna farm of (insert your favorite antenna here), or a good capable contester with say a dipole and an IC-746. Your example is specious, Mike. Generally the contester who builds a competition grade station has also invested in building the skills and techniques to take advantage of the capabilities they have sought in their station design. Do you think so Hans? I have examples of just that, and it has been my personal experience. Your statement is true as far as it goes, but I've seen what happens when the newbies have access to the competition grade setups, as sometimes happens during events such as Field day So many of the newbies I have worked with come in with the expectations of sitting down, throwing the tuning knob around, and calling, then waiting for the pileup. They get frustrated with the work that you have to put into the more modest setups. Many times we are told that the station "isn't working". And of course it is. An experienced and patient operator can start making QSO's immediately. One of the newbies decided that he wanted to use the QRO station and referred to the GOTA as a "toy station". Those QRO stations are powerful competition for lower powered ones. It is not terribly difficult to twiddle the knob, start calling CQ, and getting return calls. Problem is, it doesn't tend to make you a good contester. - Mike KB3EIA - |
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Dave Heil wrote:
KØHB wrote: "Mike Coslo" wrote Who do ya want - a impatient knob twiddler with a FTDX 9000 and an antenna farm of (insert your favorite antenna here), or a good capable contester with say a dipole and an IC-746. Your example is specious, Mike. Generally the contester who builds a competition grade station has also invested in building the skills and techniques to take advantage of the capabilities they have sought in their station design. 73, de Hans, K0HB Generally but not always, Hans. Here's an example: Joe Moneybags has always admired the photos which Hans Brakob takes. He notes that Hans always uses a top of the line Nikon. Joe sells his Canon and buys the expensive Nikon. His photos are still not up to the Brakob standard. Joe fails to realize that the skill of the photographer is more important than the price or model of the camera. You have to have seen something similar a dozen times in DXing or contesting. And that is my basic point. If people want to claim it is specious, then I guess they mean that the equipment is much more important than the operators skills. All you have to do is pump money into the contest station, and assuming you pump the most money into it, you will win. Sounds ridiculous to me. Perhaps my with my setup, I should just give up. I don't stand a chance of even doing well, much less winning, eh? Or perhaps a person can hone their skills using a modest setup, then move on to a hot station and start doing very well. I wonder how many Ops have started at the top? I think I'll buy an Indy car. If I buy the mostest expensivist one, I'll surely win all the races, eh? - Mike KB3EIA - |
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From: "bb" on Wed 22 Jun 2005 15:48
wrote: From: "bb" on Tues 21 Jun 2005 03:15 wrote: From: "Dan/W4NTI" on Sun 19 Jun 2005 22:46 "Jim Hampton" wrote in message The twoers and sixers were rock-bound. Anyway, he said that he wasn't familiar with VHF. "Familiarity with VHF" wasn't needed. ALL that counted was getting the morse code speed UP...that yielded absolute knowledge of all theory thus guaranteeing rank-status-privilege. We're trying to change that, all in vain. Only the actuarial tables bring about change in the ARS. Well, that's how it goes... :-) I designed and built an external VFO for a few Sixers. Worked fine. One of the recipients was showing an olde-fahrt extra how it operated and olde-fahrt said "Nice, did you build it?" "No," said my friend and, pointing to me, "He did." "THAT'S ILLEGAL!" shouted the olde-fahrt. Heh heh heh...the same anal attitudes existed four decades ago as they do now. In RRAP, we have the uniformed, and the uninformed! The "uniformed and the uninformed!" I LIKE that phrase. Apt. :-) You forgot to mention the changes in elevation over changes in distance!!! Heh heh heh. In northern Illinois the elevation changes amount to +/- a yard. Not even close to bragging rights... :-) Darnit!!! We're supposed to hear about how it was uphill both ways juss like the real hammes claim. That was for a COMMERCIAL license, Brian. No braggin' rights allowed in here on that. :-) However, to kill time waiting for the return train, I saw a matinee of "Oklahoma." Sat in the balcony, undisturbed. That was good for a change of a couple stories in height! :-) Did you try a "balcony" antenna while there? Nobody to communicate with. Was a slow day for matinees, I guess. Too bad it was a sunny day in Chicago. No snow to brag to anyone ("uphill both ways through"). Passed no problem, even with the interruption of a fire drill in the Federal Building halfway through the test. No real hamme could have survived that. You're probably right. [a lot of the anony-mousies won't know what we're talking about on this subject...they weren't here to see some of the astounding bragging going on by the late Dick Carroll and others in here] Dick was not unique unto himself. There are plenty of Dick imposters in the ARS. You mean the beepers are all just dildoes?!? Good grief! Maybe Dr. Ruth Westheimer needs to be informed of this!?! Brrrr...what a group! |
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From: "bb" on Wed 22 Jun 2005 17:03
wrote: bb Jun 19, 10:51 pm show options Dan/W4NTI wrote: "bb" wrote in message ups.com... Dan/W4NTI wrote: "bb" wrote in message oups.com... It's nice to see Miss Manners finally noticing something amiss n the ARS. "bb" is just full of all sorts of assumptions, ain't he boys and girls? Using his logic then all us "higher" class operators need to get out of EMCOM, eh? I'll be sure to tell the Extra class Emergency Net Control operator next time I see her. Dan/W4NTI Dan, you're welcome to tell her anything you want. She's probably already aware that you usually get it wrong anyway. Do you have trouble chewing gum and walking Bryan? I don't chew gum. I don't smoke, either. Did you have a point? Probably on his head... He should have it biopsied. Save him an early date with the actuarial tables. Sounds like a plan! Ol' Danny is getting worse. Now he thinks I am claiming "combat action." Maybe I'll claim SEVEN of them just to keep him happy? It works for another. :-) The Vietnam War ended 30 years ago. I guess this post-traumatic stress stuff really gets to some...and lasts a long time... More and more I'm thinking the PCTA extras are going bonkers from too much beeping. |
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![]() Dave Heil wrote: K=D8HB wrote: "Mike Coslo" wrote Who do ya want - a impatient knob twiddler with a FTDX 9000 and an ante= nna farm of (insert your favorite antenna here), or a good capable conteste= r with say a dipole and an IC-746. Your example is specious, Mike. Generally the contester who builds a competition grade station has also invested in building the skills and techniques to take advantage of the capabilities they have sought in th= eir station design. 73, de Hans, K0HB Generally but not always, Hans. Here's an example: Joe Moneybags has always admired the photos which Hans Brakob takes. He notes that Hans always uses a top of the line Nikon. Joe sells his Canon and buys the expensive Nikon. His photos are still not up to the Brakob standard. Joe fails to realize that the skill of the photographer is more important than the price or model of the camera. You have to have seen something similar a dozen times in DXing or contesting. Dave K8MN In music. Some guy see's Joe Walsh playing a guitar and buys one just like it... |
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Mike Coslo wrote:
K=D8HB wrote: "Mike Coslo" wrote Who do ya want - a impatient knob twiddler with a FTDX 9000 and an antenna farm of (insert your favorite antenna here), or a good capable contester with say a dipole and an IC-746. Your example is specious, Mike. Generally the contester who builds= a competition grade station has also invested in building the skills and techniques to take advantage of the capabilities they have sought in their station design. Do you think so Hans? I have examples of just that, and it has been my personal experience. Your statement is true as far as it goes, but I've seen what happens when the newbies have access to the competition grade setups, as sometimes happens during events such as Field day The difference is that they didn't build that station themselves. So many of the newbies I have worked with come in with the expectations of sitting down, throwing the tuning knob around, and calling, then waiting for the pileup. They get frustrated with the work that you have to put into the more modest setups. I think one of the main purposes of FD is that sort of education. Let folks try out new (to them) rigs, new antennas, operating techniques, etc., and see what *really* works. And let the newbies see how it's done. Many times we are told that the station "isn't working". And of course it is. Cockpit trouble. Short-circuit between the headphones. An experienced and patient operator can start making QSO's immediately. One of the newbies decided that he wanted to use the QRO station and referred to the GOTA as a "toy station". "younger and more capable minds".... I've had similar experiences on FD. Some folks think they're doing well to make QSOs on SSB at a certain rate with a beam and 100 W transceiver, with an op and a logger. Exhausted after an hour or two, they wander over to the CW tent and find me working them at 2, 3 or more times their rate, with a dipole, "old" transceiver, and no logger. The reactions when presented with a manual transmatch were priceless, too. Those QRO stations are powerful competition for lower powered ones. It is not terribly difficult to twiddle the knob, start calling CQ, and getting return calls. Problem is, it doesn't tend to make you a good co= ntester. That's why it might be a good idea - next year - to run all ~100 W setups. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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