From: Mike Coslo on Jul 22, 4:01 pm

wrote:
From: Michael Coslo on Fri 22 Jul 2005 13:37
K4YZ wrote:
Jayson Davis wrote:


And a strange line of thought Jayson uses. Kind of like we're supposed
to say:

"Ham Radio - we don't suck now!"

That would be a REALISTIC beginning... :-)

Oh, Michael, we've all seen the "crowd" represented by K4YZ. :-)

Steve represents mostly himself. I've seen a lot of people who
represent a lot of things.

Ahhhh...but to merely disagree with K4YZ is to HATE HAM RADIO!

Ergo, he IS ham radio! :-)


To Jayson:

Then why the heck do you want us to advertise that the Morse test is gone.

Not the YOU "us," Michael. The ARRL badly needs new membership.
They've never had as many as a quarter of all U.S. amateur
radio licensees as members and are currently down around just
20% of licensees.

ARR?

I wrote "ARRL" sweetums...and it comes back as "ARRL."


ARRL is more business than organization and
the business side of the house has to show a profit.

I wonder why so many people who hate Ham radio seem to know exactly how
Ham radio is supposed to be?

Why are you sounding insecure? The FCC defines U.S. amateur
radio. You don't define U.S. amateur radio.

Insecure? So are the others who *know* how it is to be defined also
insecure?

Tsk. Don't try that ploy. THE FCC DEFINES AMATEUR RADIO
IN THE UNITED STATES. Period. They grant the licenses for
same.

Others merely INTERPRET what THEY THINK it is about.


You are sounding EXACTLY like the "superior OTs" you decry in
another message...like everyone MUST accept what YOU accept
as a definition. Tsk.

Tsk indeed. My question is a simple one. Its a rough equivalent of the
US basing our economic policy on what a group of olde tyme Russian
communists think it should be. They didn't like us much at all. I bet
they had some "good ideas" on how we should run things though...

"Russian communists" have NOTHING to do with this NPRM.

Try to stay focussed.


"Bright people wanting to experiment" aren't going to fall in love
with a radio service demanding all below-30-MHz-privileged
individuals demonstrate telegraphy skills...especially when
that skill goes back 161 years! :-)

Lots of bright students don't want to learn anything that they don't
think is relevant.

Har! That's one of the WEAKEST arguments mumbled by so many.

The FCC is NOT an academic institution and licensees are NOT
"students"...NOT even prospective licensees going for a test.

Actually, that "argument" is total bull**** OUT of the academic
arena. ALL the OTHER radio services (except maritime radio on
the Great Lakes) have GIVEN UP on morse code for communications.
It simply hasn't proven to be "better" than other modes, takes
longer, and no longer "gets through" better.

All you are doing with that "argument" is really enforcing a
sort of tribal myth, aka a "hazing" ritual. Note: The FCC
isn't a fraternity house either.


BTW, isn't there a slight contradiction between wanting to attract
large number of people, and wanting to attract the bright and intelligent?

How does a requirement of knowing 161-year-old morsemanship
skill attract the "bright and intelligent?" :-)

non sequitur. I wasn't writing of Morse code.

Hello? See that Subject Line up on the Header? This whole thread
is about the NPRM in WT Docket 05-235...which is about DROPPING
the MORSE CODE TEST.

I really do NOT know what YOU are writing about...some of the time.


Yet all they whine about is the code test and that 3% of the
allocations that do require a code test.

Why?

Those type hate Hams. Maybe that isn't gospel truth, but its close enough.

Poor babies...feeling "hated" are you both?

Everyone is hated by someone. If a person allows themselves to be
bothered by it, they are a poor baby indeed.

No, sweetums, YOU got the non-sequitur. Note what I said about
K4YZ: Anyone simply disagreeing with him is ACCUSED to be
HATING HAM RADIO! Search all you want through Google and you
will find him using that "phrase of hate." Do YOU want to be
like him?

Feeling "hated" because so few agree with your self-proclaimed
"definitions" of What It Is All About?

If 50 million people believe a foolish thing is true, it remains a
foolish thing.

"50 million people in WHAT?" Where are you dreaming today?

Hello? Concentrate on the thread subject.


Yes, it's all a big conspiracy. All those who disagree with you
two HATE YOU! Not only that, THEY HATE HAM RADIO...because you
two define yourself as "ham radio!" [you two have the conspiracy
thing all in a row, lined up...in your minds]

Easy there, don't get the B.P. up!

Are you now a "nurse?" My "beep" is as close to 120 over 80 as an
adult male can get.

Tsk, Michael, your "visual hearing" is suffering from "visual
tinnitus" also. Or its your ego getting in the way of logical
objectivity. Try to understand that YOU do NOT define U.S.
amateur radio...the FCC does. Just because others don't accept
your interpretation does NOT mean they "hate ham radio."


Tsk. How little you two know of REAL engineering and
"experimentation." :-)

So what you are saying is that those who do know about REAL engineering
and "experimentation" won't do it unless only everything is to their
exact liking? Otherwise they will simply wait until everything is to
their exact liking?

No, I'm just saying you two don't know dink about REAL
engineering...or experimentation. :-)

You both like to posture as if you do, but neither does. :-)

Have fun in the ARS (Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society). [why
are you here instead of playing with your HF radios?]

I am here *while* I'm playing with my HF radio.

BS. At a little after 1:30 on a Friday afternoon you should
be WORKING at your place of employment. You only work 4 days
a week? Tsk, NOT the Capitalist Way!

At the close of FCC business in DC on 22 Jul 05, the Comments
on WT Docket 05-235 are running about 2:1 in favor of dropping
the code test. [just a little reminder] Stay "tuned." On your
"HF radio" or your computer. [don't get them mixed up]

bit bit

Are you drunk? Or, is it drugs?

Kim W5TIT



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Kim:

Don't even imagine you have earned such a "peace offering" yet...

ROFLOL!!!

John

"Kim" wrote in message
...
"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Dee:

Let us both look at this, we both know I have treated you as "one
of
the guys" here, I have pulled no punches because you are female;
you
have not only taken it in stride, you have taken it well.

Don't feel I do not value your comments, even if my abrasive nature
might lead you to that conclusion.

Because you are female, you are one of the most valuable voices
here--it is just that way, nothing anyone can do about, nor should
really (well, encourage more females so there is something
resembling
a "balance" here.)

Hang tough girl, ya got what it takes... warm smile

John


OHMYGAWD!!!! Hey, Dee? Wanna borrow my pahuke bucket?

bleh....

Kim W5TIT



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Kim:

When I view your text a peculiar thing happens... the letters
rearrange themselves and end up spelling:

"'CHIT STIRRER"

Ahhh, maybe I need new glasses...
grin

John

"Kim" wrote in message
...
"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"Kim" wrote in message
...
"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Dee:

Let us both look at this, we both know I have treated you as
"one of
the guys" here, I have pulled no punches because you are female;
you
have not only taken it in stride, you have taken it well.

Don't feel I do not value your comments, even if my abrasive
nature
might lead you to that conclusion.

Because you are female, you are one of the most valuable voices
here--it is just that way, nothing anyone can do about, nor
should
really (well, encourage more females so there is something
resembling
a "balance" here.)

Hang tough girl, ya got what it takes... warm smile

John


OHMYGAWD!!!! Hey, Dee? Wanna borrow my pahuke bucket?

bleh....

Kim W5TIT


I'm not too worried about it as I'm a very mellow person. I accept
it as
the compliment that it appears to have been intended to be.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



hmmmmm, appearances are nearly always, always deceiving.

Kim W5TIT



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Dee:

You are quite welcome, and deserving... thank you for being so
gracious...

John

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Dee:

Let us both look at this, we both know I have treated you as "one
of the guys" here, I have pulled no punches because you are female;
you have not only taken it in stride, you have taken it well.

Don't feel I do not value your comments, even if my abrasive nature
might lead you to that conclusion.

Because you are female, you are one of the most valuable voices
here--it is just that way, nothing anyone can do about, nor should
really (well, encourage more females so there is something
resembling a "balance" here.)

Hang tough girl, ya got what it takes... warm smile

John


Thank you.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Kim:

Do you ever wonder how deep my "perversion" goes, the one you accused
me of--in that mess you made by intermingling my text with yours?

Well, don't, I am sitting here undressing you with my eyes!!!

ROFLOL!!!!!

John

"Kim" wrote in message
...
"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Dee:

Let us both look at this, we both know I have treated you as "one
of the
guys" here, I have pulled no punches because you are female; you
have
not
only taken it in stride, you have taken it well.

Don't feel I do not value your comments, even if my abrasive
nature
might
lead you to that conclusion.

Because you are female, you are one of the most valuable voices
here--it
is just that way, nothing anyone can do about, nor should really
(well,
encourage more females so there is something resembling a
"balance"
here.)

Hang tough girl, ya got what it takes... warm smile

John


Thank you.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



I am shocked, Dee. You actually think this attitude is OK from a
guy?

Kim W5TIT



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Geesh...

Kim, I don't have time... neither for drugs, alcohol or you...

John

"Kim" wrote in message
...
Are you drunk? Or, is it drugs?

Kim W5TIT



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John Smith wrote:
Cmdr Buzz:

Hey, did you really think--I think, she really has 5 size W boobs?

disappointed-look-on-face

John

Don't know but you probably don't want to mentally undress her unless
you can take being scared half to death.

Cmdr Buzz:

Hey, did you really think--I think, she really has 5 size W boobs?

disappointed-look-on-face

John

"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote:
Kim:

I expected as much, a women libber who isn't a libber at all.

Rather a spoiled female brat which wants all the perks of being
female and none of the responsibility.

And, you are right, gays marrying makes a mockery out of marriage.
Two butt buddies (or two lesbian lick masters) are ridiculous and
should be give mental health to repair their suffering mental
conditions...

You wouldn't know a real female if she ran up and bit ya on yer
bum. Already you are whinning because your tricks ain't going to
work here.

Screw off, you are just a new age wacko and they are a dime a
dozen! You are too used to people kissing yer bum to be politically
correct, ain't gonna happen here--I have too much respect for
myself.

If you want to stay focused on ham issues good. If you want to
argue being politically correct or I have to suffer your opinions
and views--chuck it girl!

John

LOL!!! Gotta luv it! Why do you think she got that call John? She
needs attention.

commander:

I would consider it to be as likely I like the woman, as not, if I
ever meet her...

These news threads are hardly "real life."

(just be disappointed if she doesn't really have five size w boobs!
Can you just imagine the bra which would hold those puppies!!!!)
joking-grin

John

"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote:
Cmdr Buzz:

Hey, did you really think--I think, she really has 5 size W boobs?

disappointed-look-on-face

John

Don't know but you probably don't want to mentally undress her
unless you can take being scared half to death.