wrote:
From: "Jim Hampton" on Sat 23 Jul 2005 23:04

Hello, John



cut
25 feet of bell wire on a spark plug to a lawn mower will kill the idiot
running 25 kw screaming "audiooooo....". If he can't hear 'em, he can't
work 'em.

Malicious interference to anyone is still malicious interference.
By the existing regulations. You are the one with the license
that can be pulled, NOT the "25 kw" freebander.

Where do you find this mythical freebander running TWENTY FIVE
KILOWATTS?!? [only in newsgroups is where...]

I'd love to see such a station just for the experence I can hardly
imagine it


hack

an old friend wrote:
wrote:
From: "Jim Hampton" on Sat 23 Jul 2005 23:04

Hello, John



cut
25 feet of bell wire on a spark plug to a lawn mower will kill the idiot
running 25 kw screaming "audiooooo....". If he can't hear 'em, he can't
work 'em.

Malicious interference to anyone is still malicious interference.
By the existing regulations. You are the one with the license
that can be pulled, NOT the "25 kw" freebander.

Where do you find this mythical freebander running TWENTY FIVE
KILOWATTS?!? [only in newsgroups is where...]

I'd love to see such a station just for the experence I can hardly
imagine it

I would say you find *many* things "hard to imagine."

From: an old friend on Jul 24, 11:30 am

wrote:
From: "Jim Hampton" on Sat 23 Jul 2005 23:04


Where do you find this mythical freebander running TWENTY FIVE
KILOWATTS?!? [only in newsgroups is where...]

I'd love to see such a station just for the experence I can hardly
imagine it

You can see pictures of how it used to be at:

http://kauko.hallikainen.org/history/equipment/

Go to the sub-heading "Stations" and click on "ADA." It's about
an Army station in the 1950s whose transmitter site at over
three dozen HF transmitters ranging from 1 KW to 40 KW output.
Station ADA was only the third largest in the worldwide Army
network at the time. I was there for three years and most of
the pictures are from my own camera. All vacuum tubes, of
course, this was in the 1950s.

The other document under "Stations" is from a brochure done
up by the same battalion I served in, but ten years later.
All Signal Corps photographs.

Control was transferred from Army to USAF in 1963 and the USAF
terminated the station in 1978. HF was becoming less and less
used by the U.S. military in the 1980s. Civilian use of HF
was downsizing and the AFRS-AFRTS worldwide broadcasting went
to comm satellite relay. Even VOA downsized in that time and
most of those HUGE cabinets of power went to the scrap heap.

Some of the old stand-bys are still there, such as WWV. For
a look at the transmitters of WWV, WWVH, and (for 60 KHz)
WWVB, go to http://www.nist.gov and click the "Time and
Frequency" heading. WWVB puts out 50 KW and keeps thousands
of clocks and wris****ches on time every night...automatically.

bit bit

wrote:


You can see pictures of how it used to be at:

http://kauko.hallikainen.org/history/equipment/

Go to the sub-heading "Stations" and click on "ADA." It's about
an Army station in the 1950s whose transmitter site at over
three dozen HF transmitters ranging from 1 KW to 40 KW output.
Station ADA was only the third largest in the worldwide Army
network at the time. I was there for three years and most of
the pictures are from my own camera. All vacuum tubes, of
course, this was in the 1950s.

The other document under "Stations" is from a brochure done
up by the same battalion I served in, but ten years later.
All Signal Corps photographs.

of clocks and wris****ches on time every night...automatically.

So lennieboy thinks that by getting to walk by a high power Army radio
installation sometime in the 1950's and taking a few pictures made him
an expert radioman. Kinda like how he blusters on about ham radio "Morse
Men".

From: Cmdr Buzziebaby Corey on Jul 24, 12:54 pm

wrote:

You can see pictures of how it used to be at:

http://kauko.hallikainen.org/history/equipment/

Go to the sub-heading "Stations" and click on "ADA." It's about
an Army station in the 1950s whose transmitter site at over
three dozen HF transmitters ranging from 1 KW to 40 KW output.
Station ADA was only the third largest in the worldwide Army
network at the time. I was there for three years and most of
the pictures are from my own camera. All vacuum tubes, of
course, this was in the 1950s.

So lennieboy thinks that by getting to walk by a high power Army radio
installation sometime in the 1950's and taking a few pictures made him
an expert radioman.

No, "commander" buzziebaby, I didn't do that...I WORKED IN
that station and learned how from on-the-job instruction,
manuals, texts, and a bunch of experts on HF transmitters.
From the beginning of February 1953 to late January 1956.
I didn't have a lot of choice in that even if I was a
voluntary enlistee (ASN RA16408336). If you don't believe
me, just check with Gene Rosenbaum, N2JTV. Gene was in the
the same outfit, worked at the same station, but on another
of the four operating teams at ADA. I worked up to be an
operating team leader until the microwave radio relay
equipment arrived...and I became lead NCO at the ADA
microwave installation. BTASE.

If you are ****ed or something, I'd suggest seeking medical
help for your rampant resentment. Personally, I don't give
a snit how jealous you are. I took advantage of my
assignment and learned all I could. That was enough for me
to change my career goal in life from industrial art to
electronics engineering after my Honorable Discharge. You
don't like that? TS. Pass me your TS card, I punch it.

Kinda like how he blusters on about ham radio "Morse
Men".

That's Mighty Macho Morsemen, eedjut. Get it RIGHT.

Anony-mousie buzziebaby, I've seen, operated HF stuff
along with VHF, UHF, and microwave stuff IN the military
and know damn well that the vast majority of military
communications of half a century ago was NOT by any
magic of morsemanship. Worse yet for you jealous types,
I do have written confirmation of what I did AND the
word of both military and civilian personnel who were
THERE at the same time I was. No brags, just fact.

Now go play with your olde-tyme raddios, buzziebaby.
Pretend you're a hotshot 1930s morseman and dream your
impossible dreams of radio importance. Cuss out all of
those who were doing the REAL stuff if that makes your
ego feel better. It won't matter in the long run. I
was there, you weren't. Hell, you can't even summon
enough courage to use a real name or ham callsign!

bit bit

wrote:


No, "commander" buzziebaby, I didn't do that...I WORKED IN
that station and learned how from on-the-job instruction,
manuals, texts, and a bunch of experts on HF transmitters.
From the beginning of February 1953 to late January 1956.
I didn't have a lot of choice in that even if I was a
voluntary enlistee (ASN RA16408336). If you don't believe
me, just check with Gene Rosenbaum, N2JTV. Gene was in the
the same outfit, worked at the same station, but on another
of the four operating teams at ADA. I worked up to be an
operating team leader until the microwave radio relay
equipment arrived...and I became lead NCO at the ADA
microwave installation. BTASE.

Sure you did lennieboy, sure. Bet you couldn't even turn the transmitter
on without help.

If you are ****ed or something, I'd suggest seeking medical
help for your rampant resentment. Personally, I don't give
a snit how jealous you are.

I have a ham license. Do you?


That's Mighty Macho Morsemen, eedjut. Get it RIGHT.

Anony-mousie buzziebaby, I've seen, operated HF stuff
along with VHF, UHF, and microwave stuff IN the military
and know damn well that the vast majority of military
communications of half a century ago was NOT by any
magic of morsemanship.

Sure you did lennieboy, sure. What do I have to be jealous of you? I
have a ham license. Something you can't do even with all these imaginary
skills you claim.

Sure you did lennieboy, sure. Bet you couldn't even turn the transmitter
on without help.

He probably wasn't allowed to. He didn't want to go to the
stockade.




I have a ham license. Do you?

Now that the code test will soon be history, it should
be easy for Len to get a license, if he in fact does
have all that RF experience and knowledge above. Still,
I'd check out the question pools for new technologies and
the rules and regs. I won't ask for Len to get an extra
out of the box. Just get any ham license and upgrade
later if he wants to.