an old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Note the use of "flailing" in place of "failing" in Stebie's
sentence. A Freudian slip of his mirroring his own FLAILING
about when he says all disagreers "LIE, LIE, LIE!" :-)

He has a unique viewpoint.

And you don't?

of course he does, as do I, and len and todd, but of ocurse you have no
interest in those view points so flail against us us all

Sure I have an interest...even when it's a "different viewpoint".

no you don't you just start demeaning that we comply with your
viewpoint

Start demeaning what?

Or did you mean "demanding"...???

If you perceived something I said as "demeaning", it was probably
because I was responding to something that was so absolutley idiotic or
assinine that I had a hard time staying in the chair from laughing so
hard.

If you meant "demanding", you're more than welcome to pony-up a
quote of mine that substantiates your claim that I have DEMANDED
anything.

The PROBLEM is that you, Lennie, Brain and Toiddie have a unique
way of expressing those viewpoints.

and therein lies your problem Stevie, you see the facts we are are
defferent as a problem

Oh, you're "defferent" alright.

I don't have a problem with DIFFERENT, Mark.

I DO have a problem with intentionally mistruthful or deceitful.

Espeically Lennie.

"I don't like Morse Code testing because I think it's an
antiquated mode" is a valid and debatable point.

"Macho Morsemen are killing off the hobby with their luddite,
archaic demands" is a baldfaced lie and meant to do nothing more than
incite the very flames that it does.

it isn't a bald faced lie, it is an accurtate disription of a valid
point of view

No, it's a bald faced lie.

There are no "Macho Morsemen" holding ANYthing back.

If there was, there never would have been the NCT or the present
"Kill Element 1" movement.

Amateur Radio is more than 3 1/2 times bigger today than it was
when I was a Novice in 72. One can communicate around the world with
an NCT and an HT. We can communicate with the Space Station, any one
of 10-12 satellites, and we have HF radios smaller than a carton of
cigarettes where it once took a whole deskfull of gear to do the same
thing.

I agree that the Luddite rejection of change embodied by the clring to
more Code is an open wound in the Body of the ARS.

Read the above then try to realize why your statement is so
assinine.

Len statement is simply a colorful expression of that view

Lennie's statement is an anagonistic swipe at a subset of radio
communicators he doesn't like because at sometime in his past one of
them "diss'ed" him.

It has nothing to do with reality.

So here's the challenge, Mark...

We just hit August of 2005 so I will use previous Augusts as the
milestone...

Go find old copies of any Amateur Radio journal...Heck...take "CQ"
since it started in 1945...A nice round number of years (suggested
since Lennie will jump in about how the ARRL is hardly objective, etc
etc etc...)

That represents an even 60 years of Augusts.

I dare you to look back through all thos Augusts and then come
back here with a straight face and tell me about how Amateur Radio is
not "progressing".

Even better yet...Since Lennie's always harping about how Amateurs
are allegedly "stuck in the 30's", go ahead and stroll back through
QST's back to 1930. That now gives you SEVENTY FIVE Augusts to
establish trends with.

Now compare the technology, practices, modes, etc of August 1930
or 1945 with August of 2005, and THEN tell me how Lennie's accusations
of the immobility of Amateur Radio are true...?!?!

Good luck.

Steve, K4YZ

gee I should just cut out stvies rudeness would have nothing left
K4YZ wrote:
an old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Note the use of "flailing" in place of "failing" in Stebie's
sentence. A Freudian slip of his mirroring his own FLAILING
about when he says all disagreers "LIE, LIE, LIE!" :-)

He has a unique viewpoint.

And you don't?

of course he does, as do I, and len and todd, but of ocurse you have no
interest in those view points so flail against us us all

Sure I have an interest...even when it's a "different viewpoint".

no you don't you just start demeaning that we comply with your
viewpoint

Start demeaning what?

Or did you mean "demanding"...???

If you perceived something I said as "demeaning", it was probably
because I was responding to something that was so absolutley idiotic or
assinine that I had a hard time staying in the chair from laughing so
hard.

If you meant "demanding", you're more than welcome to pony-up a
quote of mine that substantiates your claim that I have DEMANDED
anything.

break
The PROBLEM is that you, Lennie, Brain and Toiddie have a unique
way of expressing those viewpoints.

and therein lies your problem Stevie, you see the facts we are are
defferent as a problem

Begin stevie tantrum

Oh, you're "defferent" alright.

I don't have a problem with DIFFERENT, Mark.

lie

dfference is only allowed if it results in agreement with,

the above being one the most nonsenical statement I have ever typed,
unforunately it has the virtue of being completely true


I DO have a problem with intentionally mistruthful or deceitful.

with the represntation of a view different form your own you mean


Espeically Lennie.

"I don't like Morse Code testing because I think it's an
antiquated mode" is a valid and debatable point.

"Macho Morsemen are killing off the hobby with their luddite,
archaic demands" is a baldfaced lie and meant to do nothing more than
incite the very flames that it does.

it isn't a bald faced lie, it is an accurtate disription of a valid
point of view

begin trantrum number 2

No, it's a bald faced lie.

There are no "Macho Morsemen" holding ANYthing back.

sure are

relaince on Morse Hald back bring new folks in EME for example with
most of that world being unwilling to bother with other modes people
like myself are all but excluded

this but one example

Indeed you sent me an email fewyears back after CQ or was it CQ VHF
published a letter to that effect when I comented on the inapproateness
of talking about testing in the "VHF and up "


If there was, there never would have been the NCT or the present
"Kill Element 1" movement.

wrong that MM is the reason it was needed to to form and campaign for
the NCT The ARRL was opposed to NCT til it was done then tried to claim
it was all for it, that it has teken years to kill code testing is
another sign of the MMM hlding things back


Amateur Radio is more than 3 1/2 times bigger today than it was
when I was a Novice in 72. One can communicate around the world with
an NCT and an HT. We can communicate with the Space Station, any one

you over blow the abilites of the TCh and HT.

of 10-12 satellites, and we have HF radios smaller than a carton of
cigarettes where it once took a whole deskfull of gear to do the same
thing.

and what would we have had if the MMM had gotten on board and pushed
NCT sooner and welcomed new hams rather than bemoan them? I don't know
but it likely would have more



I agree that the Luddite rejection of change embodied by the clring to
more Code is an open wound in the Body of the ARS.

Read the above then try to realize why your statement is so
assinine.

it isn't assine at all


Len statement is simply a colorful expression of that view

Lennie's statement is an anagonistic swipe at a subset of radio
communicators he doesn't like because at sometime in his past one of
them "diss'ed" him.

and contiue to diss him, and his rights you do so on a near daily basis
(you seem to be givng him break lately with me to pick on)

It has nothing to do with reality.

everything to do with it, you look on radio with blinders on and you
want to impose those blinders on the rest of us

So here's the challenge, Mark...

We just hit August of 2005 so I will use previous Augusts as the
milestone...

Go find old copies of any Amateur Radio journal...Heck...take "CQ"
since it started in 1945...A nice round number of years (suggested
since Lennie will jump in about how the ARRL is hardly objective, etc
etc etc...)

That represents an even 60 years of Augusts.

I dare you to look back through all thos Augusts and then come
back here with a straight face and tell me about how Amateur Radio is
not "progressing".

no access

and what progress do you see, compared to world aorund us


Even better yet...Since Lennie's always harping about how Amateurs
are allegedly "stuck in the 30's", go ahead and stroll back through
QST's back to 1930. That now gives you SEVENTY FIVE Augusts to
establish trends with.

Now compare the technology, practices, modes, etc of August 1930
or 1945 with August of 2005, and THEN tell me how Lennie's accusations
of the immobility of Amateur Radio are true...?!?!

how many non ham stations are using vacumtube for any part of the
operations?

how many ham staions can't deal any modern digtial mode?


Good luck.

Steve, K4YZ

b.b. wrote:
b.b. wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Steve, if you treated folks with a smidgen of dignity, you might find a
kind comment every once in a while as well. But you don't, so you
won't.

Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you
continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general
and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the
dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to
have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them.

No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP)

Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it...

I need not prove anything to you. You may think I do, but that is
faulty thinking on your part.

Oh, I don't think you have to prove anything to me...

But if it were ME making all these easily disproven asserions in
public, I'd want to get my side out in front so all could know "where I
was coming from"...

Indeed. So tell us more about your claims of seven hostile actions.

I guess Steve will deal with his truth in due time. Hi!

Or maybe he won't. Maybe there is no truth in his claims.

Seven hostile actions?

an old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:

Someday it will be worthy of study under the heading "Aberrant
Behavio[u]r." Until someone in the professional headspace business
seizes him, we have to deal with his rantings.

So far, there are no rantings.

so far? taking your sampl pretty narowly

Hi! A sample of one out of many thousands.

Just me proving you to be what I claim. And You providing the
material for me to do it with.

what do you claim BTW, this moment it changes more often the Kerry's
positions

I still want to hear about his claims to seven (7) hostile actions.

The moment he speaks of them, the Stolen Valor people are going to be
all over him. He's lived in fear ever since his first brag.

Stebie's posting sometimes read like "Watchtower" clone bad
copy stuff. :-)

Is "Watchtower" good science fiction?

A little lost, are you?

not at all, why do you ask? are you admiting to being lost? (we know
you are lost)

Darkguard lives in the Watchtower. He sends messages to Quitefine
using Morse Code.

Stebie should have put His "truth" in quotation marks. Dat
stuff don't exist in reality.

"His Truth." "His Reality."

That kind of sums it up.

Nice try. Doesn't change the facts that you're both discreditied
liars.

they freely admit to not confroming to YOUR notion of reality,
Something I will also admit to if you like

Using Steve's rules, he discredits himself, his family name, and
amateur radio.

Where were you on that Boy Scout Jamboree, BTW, Brain?

Certainly osunds like they ahd some of your "leadership" behind
it.

and you pounce on me for spelling?

He's special. Extra Special.

And just like Steve and the Lib press to focus in on BSA errors while
ignoring all of the liberal failures of the last half century. Wonder
if Steve hates the BSA just because I've been an adult volunteer, or if
he was denied an adult leadership position for whatever reason, and
couldn't wear its uniform?

Nope. I'd like to carry one meaningful discussions (and
frequently do) about Amateur Radio issues.

One meaningful discussions? You're way too pluralistic.

Let's call it multi-tasking. I am sure it awes you that some
people can actually chew gum and walk, but it happens.

Congratulations on your acheivement. I am in awe of your abilities.

"Chews gum and walks simultaneously, all the while being easily
offended!"

Is Ripley's "Believe It Or Not" still published? If it is, we
ought to send Stebie's marvelous accomplishment to them for
wider distribution and acclaim!

Now that would be funny, but it might trigger an "episode."

We could do an "episode" on Brain's and Lennie's achievments, but
what would we do with the other 27 1/2 minutes of airtime?

back to ranting I see

Steve is a wit, at least partially.

I think Steve took a quick glimpse of reality, then closed his eyes
tightly and went back to discrediting his fellow Extra's and his family
name.

You hit that one "bang on", Brian. Very plausible.

It's just better for everyone when he keeps his eyes shut. His
behavior is bizarre enough without him having to face reality.

There are those with reality acceptance issues here, Brain...But
I'm not one of them...

BUZZ wrong answer Stevie you have a complete refusaul to deal with
reality

All you got was a BUZZ?

A Klaxon just went off behind my head on that one. Hi!

Brian, you are too subtle for Stebie. He failed to notice your
plural form of "yourselves" (as in reference to multiple
personalities).

He's not very bright.

Brighter than the sum of the two of you, but then that didn't take
a whole lot.

well he is admiting to not being very bright, has to libel 2 people to
do it but he admits it

That he does. Not too bright.

Welp, Stebie has just admitted to hypocrisy. It used to was that
anyone talking back to Stebie "HATED ALL HAM RADIO!" Now Stebie
admits he is only "representing" HIMSELF (and all his personalities
of course). There's a tiny promise for optimists there.

I'm optimistic about many things, but Steve is not one of them.

I'd be interested in figuring out where you got that "Steve
admitted ot hypocricy" thing, but then Lord knows where the two of you
pull things out from...

can't prove it objectively but yet another lie I am sure, you don't
realy want that

Steve piled up 29 lies in three weeks, and I didn't even read
everything he posted in those three weeks. Who'se got the time?

But it was fun watching the two of you pat each others backs here
again...Now if you'd just invited Markie and Toadie in, you'd have had
the whole gang in.

don't need an inviation

It's an open forum, which is why Steve is still permitted access.

wrote:
From: b.b. on Jul 31, 2:10 pm

wrote:
From: "b.b." on Sun 31 Jul 2005 07:42
K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Merely a lack of concern for your demands.

More like a lack of interest in your own flailing character, Brain.

Steve's needs are not high on my priority list. He wishes it weren't
so.

Tsk. I think Stebie thinks ALL should be concerned with Stebie's
demands! :-)

But we're not, so he bites his knuckle and thinks up new taunts and
attacks.

All his knuckles are painful open wounds. No doubt he blames all
his own knuckle-biting on us...:-)

He is to be pitied.

Note the use of "flailing" in place of "failing" in Stebie's
sentence. A Freudian slip of his mirroring his own FLAILING
about when he says all disagreers "LIE, LIE, LIE!" :-)

He has a unique viewpoint.

[all from inside his own fevered imagination...]

Temper Fry.

Someday it will be worthy of study under the heading "Aberrant
Behavio[u]r." Until someone in the professional headspace business
seizes him, we have to deal with his rantings.

Aye, that be the cross we all must bear.

Tsk, if we could only pry Kellie away from his Navel Intelligence
job he could shoot THAT bear for us... :-)

He'd turn PETA before he shot that bear.

Yes, yes, yes. You are the way the truth and the light...

Nope.

Not "my" truth...Just THE truth.

Like I said...

Stebie's posting sometimes read like "Watchtower" clone bad
copy stuff. :-)

Is "Watchtower" good science fiction?

No. It's not even a subject at the world's first (and still
oldest surviving) Science Fiction Writer's Association in
North Hollywood, CA.

Darn!

Stebie's output is more like the 1930s "Big Lie" technique
used by the national socialist party of Germany at that time.
Publish enough of it, often enough, as widely as one can, and
some folks will begin to believe it. It's a common
psychological warfare technique used the world over.

And it's called Watchtower?

Stebie should have put His "truth" in quotation marks. Dat
stuff don't exist in reality.

"His Truth." "His Reality."

That kind of sums it up.

Yes, that's the essence of his output.

I'm just hoping he opens up a little about his "seven hostile actions"
so the Stolen Valor people set things straight.

Congratulations on your acheivement. I am in awe of your abilities.

"Chews gum and walks simultaneously, all the while being easily
offended!"

Is Ripley's "Believe It Or Not" still published? If it is, we
ought to send Stebie's marvelous accomplishment to them for
wider distribution and acclaim!

Now that would be funny, but it might trigger an "episode."

ANY disagreement with Stebie WILL "trigger an episode."

His emotional state is that of a walking nitroglycerine vial.
Shake it slightly and it sets off an explosion.

They could make a movie.... "The Detonator!"

We don't continually embarass amateur radio and bring discredit upon
the Extra Class licensees the way you do. You should be proud of
yourselves.

I don't bring "discredit upon the Extra Class licensees", Brain.
If I bring any discredit, and I serious doubt it, it's just on me.

I think Steve took a quick glimpse of reality, then closed his eyes
tightly and went back to discrediting his fellow Extra's and his family
name.

You hit that one "bang on", Brian. Very plausible. :-)

It's just better for everyone when he keeps his eyes shut. His
behavior is bizarre enough without him having to face reality.

We might have to bring back "Duck and Cover" drills...

Air raid sirens and all.

Brian, you are too subtle for Stebie. He failed to notice your
plural form of "yourselves" (as in reference to multiple
personalities). :-)

He's not very bright.

Plus a barbarian emotional mentality...resorts to brute force
whenever challenged in the slightest. Tsk, brute force doesn't
work in an enviornnment where it is impossible to really reach
out and hit anyone. He implies "threats" of coming to various
challengers' residence areas as a surrogate, that nothing more
than bullying taunts.

I'm not so sure they are taunts.

Welp, Stebie has just admitted to hypocrisy. It used to was that
anyone talking back to Stebie "HATED ALL HAM RADIO!" Now Stebie
admits he is only "representing" HIMSELF (and all his personalities
of course). There's a tiny promise for optimists there. :-)

I'm optimistic about many things, but Steve is not one of them.

Tsk, I'm getting the same way.

It's remarkable that his "fellows" and "peers" in here (extras
all of them) all seem to condone his actions denigrating the
spirit, cameraderie, and "propensity for international good
will" (FCC phrase) of the amateur radio service. He's a poster
boy of what NOT to be in the amateur radio hobby. But, he IS
"federally qualified" to transmit RF on U.S. amateur radio
frequencies and has a certificate (suitable for framing)
attesting to that. After all, he thinks that OBTAINING THE
*LICENSE* is the most desireable attribute in U.S. ham radio.
He recently said so.

hic cup


They sit by silently. One day he will come for them.

b.b. wrote:
wrote:
From: "an old friend" on Sat 30 Jul 2005 11:20



Perhaps Steve was the kind of "A" NCOIC that walked around with a
coffee cup the size of a beer mug and too busy handing out commands,
demands, and insults to have noticed the equipment?

pretty much or else left so clueless about it that he did not realize
he was just holding a spot on the MTOE, and since he mat well have
recieved a nice comendation for holding down that spot he may have
concluded he did something

b.b. wrote:
an old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:

Someday it will be worthy of study under the heading "Aberrant
Behavio[u]r." Until someone in the professional headspace business
seizes him, we have to deal with his rantings.

So far, there are no rantings.

so far? taking your sampl pretty narowly

Hi! A sample of one out of many thousands.

Just me proving you to be what I claim. And You providing the
material for me to do it with.

what do you claim BTW, this moment it changes more often the Kerry's
positions

I still want to hear about his claims to seven (7) hostile actions.

The moment he speaks of them, the Stolen Valor people are going to be
all over him. He's lived in fear ever since his first brag.

Stebie's posting sometimes read like "Watchtower" clone bad
copy stuff. :-)

Is "Watchtower" good science fiction?

A little lost, are you?

not at all, why do you ask? are you admiting to being lost? (we know
you are lost)

Darkguard lives in the Watchtower. He sends messages to Quitefine
using Morse Code.

Stebie should have put His "truth" in quotation marks. Dat
stuff don't exist in reality.

"His Truth." "His Reality."

That kind of sums it up.

Nice try. Doesn't change the facts that you're both discreditied
liars.

they freely admit to not confroming to YOUR notion of reality,
Something I will also admit to if you like

Using Steve's rules, he discredits himself, his family name, and
amateur radio.

Where were you on that Boy Scout Jamboree, BTW, Brain?

Certainly osunds like they ahd some of your "leadership" behind
it.

and you pounce on me for spelling?

He's special. Extra Special.

And just like Steve and the Lib press to focus in on BSA errors while
ignoring all of the liberal failures of the last half century. Wonder
if Steve hates the BSA just because I've been an adult volunteer, or if
he was denied an adult leadership position for whatever reason, and
couldn't wear its uniform?

Nope. I'd like to carry one meaningful discussions (and
frequently do) about Amateur Radio issues.

One meaningful discussions? You're way too pluralistic.

Let's call it multi-tasking. I am sure it awes you that some
people can actually chew gum and walk, but it happens.

Congratulations on your acheivement. I am in awe of your abilities.

"Chews gum and walks simultaneously, all the while being easily
offended!"

Is Ripley's "Believe It Or Not" still published? If it is, we
ought to send Stebie's marvelous accomplishment to them for
wider distribution and acclaim!

Now that would be funny, but it might trigger an "episode."

We could do an "episode" on Brain's and Lennie's achievments, but
what would we do with the other 27 1/2 minutes of airtime?

back to ranting I see

Steve is a wit, at least partially.

I think Steve took a quick glimpse of reality, then closed his eyes
tightly and went back to discrediting his fellow Extra's and his family
name.

You hit that one "bang on", Brian. Very plausible.

It's just better for everyone when he keeps his eyes shut. His
behavior is bizarre enough without him having to face reality.

There are those with reality acceptance issues here, Brain...But
I'm not one of them...

break
BUZZ wrong answer Stevie you have a complete refusaul to deal with
reality

All you got was a BUZZ?

A Klaxon just went off behind my head on that one. Hi!

I have specail Stevie filters instaled got tire of all the noise

Brian, you are too subtle for Stebie. He failed to notice your
plural form of "yourselves" (as in reference to multiple
personalities).

He's not very bright.

Brighter than the sum of the two of you, but then that didn't take
a whole lot.

well he is admiting to not being very bright, has to libel 2 people to
do it but he admits it

That he does. Not too bright.

Welp, Stebie has just admitted to hypocrisy. It used to was that
anyone talking back to Stebie "HATED ALL HAM RADIO!" Now Stebie
admits he is only "representing" HIMSELF (and all his personalities
of course). There's a tiny promise for optimists there.

I'm optimistic about many things, but Steve is not one of them.

I'd be interested in figuring out where you got that "Steve
admitted ot hypocricy" thing, but then Lord knows where the two of you
pull things out from...

can't prove it objectively but yet another lie I am sure, you don't
realy want that

Steve piled up 29 lies in three weeks, and I didn't even read
everything he posted in those three weeks. Who'se got the time?

I have had the time but I haven't been counted (the weather herehas
been beastly so I have been staying inside a lot)


But it was fun watching the two of you pat each others backs here
again...Now if you'd just invited Markie and Toadie in, you'd have had
the whole gang in.

don't need an inviation

It's an open forum, which is why Steve is still permitted access.

well said

or should we just disinvite him?

an old friend wrote:
b.b. wrote:

BUZZ wrong answer Stevie you have a complete refusaul to deal with
reality

All you got was a BUZZ?

A Klaxon just went off behind my head on that one. Hi!

I have specail Stevie filters instaled got tire of all the noise

Cute!~

Markie claims he can install filters to ignore the opinions he
doesn't want to see, yet can't seem to use a spellchecker!

Steve piled up 29 lies in three weeks, and I didn't even read
everything he posted in those three weeks. Who'se got the time?

I have had the time but I haven't been counted (the weather herehas
been beastly so I have been staying inside a lot)

Brain and his alleged 29 lies...sheesh.

Was asked to validate and substantiate his claims then...didn't
do it.

Still passing on the same unvalidated claims today...

And he wonders why he's held in such "high regard" by others...

Now he's in a back-slapping contest with yet another CONFIRMED
pathological liar...

Why am I not surprised...?!?!

But it was fun watching the two of you pat each others backs here
again...Now if you'd just invited Markie and Toadie in, you'd have had
the whole gang in.

don't need an inviation

It's an open forum, which is why Steve is still permitted access.

well said

or should we just disinvite him?

Gee, Markie...that sounds like a "threat"...Why are you "stalking"
me...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

b.b. wrote:
wrote:

All his knuckles are painful open wounds. No doubt he blames all
his own knuckle-biting on us...:-)

He is to be pitied.

Not by you, Brain.

Note the use of "flailing" in place of "failing" in Stebie's
sentence. A Freudian slip of his mirroring his own FLAILING
about when he says all disagreers "LIE, LIE, LIE!" :-)

He has a unique viewpoint.

[all from inside his own fevered imagination...]

Temper Fry.

In the words of your Master, I see.

Someday it will be worthy of study under the heading "Aberrant
Behavio[u]r." Until someone in the professional headspace business
seizes him, we have to deal with his rantings.

Aye, that be the cross we all must bear.

Tsk, if we could only pry Kellie away from his Navel Intelligence
job he could shoot THAT bear for us...

He'd turn PETA before he shot that bear.

People Eating Tasty Animals?

Sure!

But I bet Brian Kelly would know what that Bear looked like before
the trigger got pulled. Of course Lennie knows...he "saw" them years
before they were even in service, which would be pretty astounding
since the old Soviet government kept things like that pretty secret in
those days...

Yes, yes, yes. You are the way the truth and the light...

Nope.

Not "my" truth...Just THE truth.

Like I said...

Stebie's posting sometimes read like "Watchtower" clone bad
copy stuff. :-)

Is "Watchtower" good science fiction?

No. It's not even a subject at the world's first (and still
oldest surviving) Science Fiction Writer's Association in
North Hollywood, CA.

Darn!

There's a lot of fiction eminating from California...Not all of it
from Hollywood, North or otherwise.

Stebie's output is more like the 1930s "Big Lie" technique
used by the national socialist party of Germany at that time.
Publish enough of it, often enough, as widely as one can, and
some folks will begin to believe it. It's a common
psychological warfare technique used the world over.

And it's called Watchtower?

Ooooops...Went and invoked the Nazi's again! Not too surprising
there.

Of course Lennie should know about The Big Lie technique...He's
been trying to root it here without success.

Stebie should have put His "truth" in quotation marks. Dat
stuff don't exist in reality.

"His Truth." "His Reality."

That kind of sums it up.

Yes, that's the essence of his output.

I'm just hoping he opens up a little about his "seven hostile actions"
so the Stolen Valor people set things straight.

We could just take some of your Somaila DX Radio Hero stories too,
Brain.

Plus a barbarian emotional mentality...resorts to brute force
whenever challenged in the slightest. Tsk, brute force doesn't
work in an enviornnment where it is impossible to really reach
out and hit anyone. He implies "threats" of coming to various
challengers' residence areas as a surrogate, that nothing more
than bullying taunts.

I'm not so sure they are taunts.

Of course you don't.

That's part of the reason why you are "Brain" instead of "Brian".

It's remarkable that his "fellows" and "peers" in here (extras
all of them) all seem to condone his actions denigrating the
spirit, cameraderie, and "propensity for international good
will" (FCC phrase) of the amateur radio service...(SNIP)

This forum is NOT "Amateur Radio", Lennie...You've said so
yourself.

In as much as you do not now nor ever have held an Amateur Radio
license, you'll never be in a situation that will allow you to make a
first-hand assessment of my operating skills or conduct WHILE
operating.

He's a poster boy of what NOT to be in the amateur radio hobby.

And remind me, Lennie...

What are YOUR qualifications to make ANY assessment about ANYone
in Amateur Radio?

But, he IS
"federally qualified" to transmit RF on U.S. amateur radio
frequencies and has a certificate (suitable for framing)
attesting to that.

Yep. Since 1972.

And unlike you, I am a radio OPERATOR.

After all, he thinks that OBTAINING THE
*LICENSE* is the most desireable attribute in U.S. ham radio.
He recently said so.

No I didn't. Why do you utter lies like that in an archived
forum, Lennie?

They sit by silently. One day he will come for them.

Well...Lennie utters lies and Brain echos his sentiments...

What else do I need to validate my assertions of their dishonesty
and culpability in deceit?

Putzii.

Steve, K4YZ

b.b. wrote:

And just like Steve and the Lib press to focus in on BSA errors while
ignoring all of the liberal failures of the last half century.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

"Liberal failures-vs-BSA errors"

Now there was a stretch to pull from the on-going "conversation".

Not the least of which interesting as I am neither a liberal or
member of the Boy Scouts.

Wonder
if Steve hates the BSA just because I've been an adult volunteer, or if
he was denied an adult leadership position for whatever reason, and
couldn't wear its uniform?

"...hates the BSA..." ?!?!

Where in the world did you get THAT line of mularkie from, Brain?
Just because I pointed out that some Scout "leaders" violated one of
the most basic safety rules of erecting a tent and paid for it with
their lives...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ