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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy From: "Glendale Psycho" - Find messages by this author Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:20:52 -0400 Local: Mon,Jul 25 2005 5:20 pm than K4YZ Jul 25, 6:15 pm show options Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy From: - Find messages by this author Date: 25 Jul 2005 17:15:12 -0700 Local: Mon,Jul 25 2005 6:15 pm ...just about EVERYONE knows more than stebie! :-) doo dah an old friend Jul 25, 8:07 pm show options Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy From: "an old friend" - Find messages by this author Date: 25 Jul 2005 19:07:38 -0700 Local: Mon,Jul 25 2005 8:07 pm wrote: ...just about EVERYONE knows more than stebie! :-) doo dah I was wondering how you would handle that well done Oh! This is P R E C I O U S ! ! ! ! An anonymous heckler and a known pathological liar/deviant coming to Lennie's "defense" ! ! ! Gee, Lennie! The company YOU keep! BBBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! And today wasn't even my BIRTHDAY! ! ! ! Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: Glendale Psycho Jul 25, 5:20 pm Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy From: "Glendale Psycho" - Find messages by this author Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:20:52 -0400 Local: Mon,Jul 25 2005 5:20 pm than K4YZ Jul 25, 6:15 pm show options Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy From: - Find messages by this author Date: 25 Jul 2005 17:15:12 -0700 Local: Mon,Jul 25 2005 6:15 pm ...just about EVERYONE knows more than stebie! :-) doo dah an old friend Jul 25, 8:07 pm show options Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy From: "an old friend" - Find messages by this author Date: 25 Jul 2005 19:07:38 -0700 Local: Mon,Jul 25 2005 8:07 pm wrote: ...just about EVERYONE knows more than stebie! :-) doo dah I was wondering how you would handle that well done break Oh! This is P R E C I O U S ! ! ! ! what that Lennies was gracious and I adknowleged it cutting stevie sexaul content Gee, Lennie! The company YOU keep! BBBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! And today wasn't even my BIRTHDAY! ! ! ! Steve, K4YZ |
an old friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: Glendale Psycho Jul 25, 5:20 pm Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy From: "Glendale Psycho" - Find messages by this author Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:20:52 -0400 Local: Mon,Jul 25 2005 5:20 pm than K4YZ Jul 25, 6:15 pm show options Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy From: - Find messages by this author Date: 25 Jul 2005 17:15:12 -0700 Local: Mon,Jul 25 2005 6:15 pm ...just about EVERYONE knows more than stebie! :-) doo dah an old friend Jul 25, 8:07 pm show options Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy From: "an old friend" - Find messages by this author Date: 25 Jul 2005 19:07:38 -0700 Local: Mon,Jul 25 2005 8:07 pm wrote: ...just about EVERYONE knows more than stebie! :-) doo dah I was wondering how you would handle that well done break Oh! This is P R E C I O U S ! ! ! ! what that Lennies was gracious and I adknowleged it No, Markie... That you'd miss the irony that the only "support" that Lennie engenders is from a guy who won't sign his own name to the post and from a devaint/liar. cutting stevie sexaul content There was no "sexaul content". Once again, you lied. Gee, Lennie! The company YOU keep! BBBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! And today wasn't even my BIRTHDAY! ! ! ! Lennie and Markie just keep the laughs coming! Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: an old friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: Glendale Psycho Jul 25, 5:20 pm hack break Oh! This is P R E C I O U S ! ! ! ! what that Lennies was gracious and I adknowleged it No, Markie... more sexual stuff cut can you say anything without invoking sex cutting stevie sexaul content There was no "sexaul content". sure was cutting a stevie lie Gee, Lennie! The company YOU keep! BBBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! And today wasn't even my BIRTHDAY! ! ! ! Lennie and Markie just keep the laughs coming! and seual will insure that sex is always a part of the newsgroup Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: Glendale Psycho Jul 25, 5:20 pm Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy From: "Glendale Psycho" - Find messages by this author Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:20:52 -0400 Local: Mon,Jul 25 2005 5:20 pm than K4YZ Jul 25, 6:15 pm show options Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy From: - Find messages by this author Date: 25 Jul 2005 17:15:12 -0700 Local: Mon,Jul 25 2005 6:15 pm ...just about EVERYONE knows more than stebie! :-) doo dah an old friend Jul 25, 8:07 pm show options Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy From: "an old friend" - Find messages by this author Date: 25 Jul 2005 19:07:38 -0700 Local: Mon,Jul 25 2005 8:07 pm wrote: ...just about EVERYONE knows more than stebie! :-) doo dah I was wondering how you would handle that well done Oh! This is P R E C I O U S ! ! ! ! An anonymous heckler and a known pathological liar/deviant coming to Lennie's "defense" ! ! ! I see no "coming to Len's "defense"" in Mark's comment. Gee, Lennie! The company YOU keep! Steve, if you treated folks with a smidgen of dignity, you might find a kind comment every once in a while as well. But you don't, so you won't. |
b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Oh! This is P R E C I O U S ! ! ! ! An anonymous heckler and a known pathological liar/deviant coming to Lennie's "defense" ! ! ! I see no "coming to Len's "defense"" in Mark's comment. I didn't think you would, Gee, Lennie! The company YOU keep! Steve, if you treated folks with a smidgen of dignity, you might find a kind comment every once in a while as well. But you don't, so you won't. Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. You're a busted liar. You''ve been caught lying so many times or making absolutley assinine assertions that you wouldn't even begin to TRY and substantiate which only further strengthens MY assertions about your lack of character and untrustworthiness. In short: I'm not the least bit concerned about YOUR estimations of how much dignity you perceive I extend or would be due. As for "a kind word"...Whelp, I've had plenty of them, even in recent days, so I am hardly worried that I might wilt away from the lack of affection of my RRAP "peers"...ESPECIALLY you, Lennie, Toiddie or Markie... Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Oh! This is P R E C I O U S ! ! ! ! An anonymous heckler and a known pathological liar/deviant coming to Lennie's "defense" ! ! ! I see no "coming to Len's "defense"" in Mark's comment. I didn't think you would, and I don't. Gee, Lennie! The company YOU keep! Steve, if you treated folks with a smidgen of dignity, you might find a kind comment every once in a while as well. But you don't, so you won't. Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements, and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. No kind words for you. Too bad. |
b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Oh! This is P R E C I O U S ! ! ! ! An anonymous heckler and a known pathological liar/deviant coming to Lennie's "defense" ! ! ! I see no "coming to Len's "defense"" in Mark's comment. I didn't think you would, and I don't. Then we're both satisfied! Lucky day! Gee, Lennie! The company YOU keep! Steve, if you treated folks with a smidgen of dignity, you might find a kind comment every once in a while as well. But you don't, so you won't. Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. Sorry. No kind words for you. Too bad. Plenty of kind words for me...that none of them come from The Foulmouthed Foursome is of little disappointment to me! Have a nice day, Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: cut to the chase You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. removing the non operative sentence clear sign of mental Illness Stevie boy. You are NOT Amateur Radio You clearly need to get a life Is it paranoia or meglomania? or both It is also a clear sign of your disconet with reality that you preceieve any disagreement with your positions as an attack wether on yourself or Amateur Radio Sorry. No kind words for you. Too bad. Plenty of kind words for me...that none of them come from The Foulmouthed Foursome is of little disappointment to me! Have a nice day, another stevie lie Steve, K4YZ |
an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: cut to the chase You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. removing the non operative sentence clear sign of mental Illness Stevie boy. Nope. Clear sign that I have things that mean a lot to me, Amateur Radio being one of them. Markie Censored Sentence Replaced. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. Sorry. Don't know what made Markie think that was "non operative"... THAT was a "clear sign" that Miss Morgan doesn't have an adequate respose to the statement and knows it to be true. You are NOT Amateur Radio I AM part an parcel of it, though...just like you. I am not "America" either, yet when America was threatened in my day, I came to it's service. I serve it still. As I come to the "defense" of Amateur Radio when I perceive it as having been sleighted with inappropriate innuendo or out-and-out mistruths and deceit. You clearly need to get a life I have one. Amateur Radio is a big part of it. Is it paranoia or meglomania? or both Neither. It's pride and respect. It is also a clear sign of your disconet with reality that you preceieve any disagreement with your positions as an attack wether on yourself or Amateur Radio My what? "disconet"...?!?! Markie, don't even pretend to know what you're talking about if you can't take the few extra seconds to slow down and TYPE CAREFULLY. Typing like an illiterate idiot only served to make you look like one. Sorry. No kind words for you. Too bad. Plenty of kind words for me...that none of them come from The Foulmouthed Foursome is of little disappointment to me! Have a nice day, another stevie lie Nope. Have a nice day. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: cut to the chase You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. removing the non operative sentence clear sign of mental Illness Stevie boy. Nope. yes it is Clear sign that I have things that mean a lot to me, Amateur Radio being one of them. clearly mental that you view a dissgreement over the ARS as an attack on yourself clearly mental that you view a disagreement over the ARS as an attack on it Markie Censored Sentence Replaced. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. Sorry. Don't know what made Markie think that was "non operative"... becuase it had nothing to do with the point being made THAT was a "clear sign" that Miss Morgan doesn't have an adequate respose to the statement and knows it to be true. more stevie meglomanina and paranoia it had nothing to do with the point You are NOT Amateur Radio I AM part an parcel of it, though...just like you. which means that I , BB and Todd have to right to express opinions about it, to disgree with you and hold differeing points of view, but anything you disagree with becomes an attack on the ARS and on You, that is paranoia, and/or meglomania I am not "America" either, yet when America was threatened in my day, I came to it's service. I serve it still. As I come to the "defense" of Amateur Radio when I perceive it as having been sleighted with inappropriate innuendo or out-and-out mistruths and deceit. which mean you are reacting in paraniod fashion to the fact that Other folks have a different philosical point of view I will use coments from recent ARES posts as an example I say the PR around ARES is overblown, that does not mean I am attacking ARES as useless, merely that it's PR is over blown, and with good reason by the ARRL the FCC and the served agencies, that merely a less stiring endorsement of ARES than you seem to want Myself, BB, and Lenn have different levels of opinion on the roles of ARES and the nature of the PR yet you lump us all together as attacking ARES it is not "inappropriate innuendo" to try and get around this spin to look for the turth, but to you no one may challenge the spin, and there is ALWAYS spin in America today You clearly need to get a life I have one. Amateur Radio is a big part of it. Is it paranoia or meglomania? or both Neither. It's pride and respect. no it one of the above or a willfull blindness to facts the ARS can always be improved, that is a fact the only way I see where that can happen is if we can discuss what works well, not so well, not at all calmly and reasonably It is also a clear sign of your disconet with reality that you preceieve any disagreement with your positions as an attack wether on yourself or Amateur Radio My what? "disconet"...?!?! Markie, don't even pretend to know what you're talking about if well i had such hope that you might start laying of the personal attack, but you can't can you cutiing stevie further gratuitous insults Sorry. No kind words for you. Too bad. Plenty of kind words for me...that none of them come from The Foulmouthed Foursome is of little disappointment to me! Have a nice day, another stevie lie Nope. Have a nice day. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: cut to the chase You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. removing the non operative sentence clear sign of mental Illness Stevie boy. Nope. yes it is Clear sign that I have things that mean a lot to me, Amateur Radio being one of them. clearly mental that you view a dissgreement over the ARS as an attack on yourself clearly mental that you view a disagreement over the ARS as an attack on it Markie Censored Sentence Replaced. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. Sorry. Don't know what made Markie think that was "non operative"... becuase it had nothing to do with the point being made THAT was a "clear sign" that Miss Morgan doesn't have an adequate respose to the statement and knows it to be true. more stevie meglomanina and paranoia it had nothing to do with the point You are NOT Amateur Radio I AM part an parcel of it, though...just like you. which means that I , BB and Todd have to right to express opinions about it, to disgree with you and hold differeing points of view, but anything you disagree with becomes an attack on the ARS and on You, that is paranoia, and/or meglomania I am not "America" either, yet when America was threatened in my day, I came to it's service. I serve it still. As I come to the "defense" of Amateur Radio when I perceive it as having been sleighted with inappropriate innuendo or out-and-out mistruths and deceit. which mean you are reacting in paraniod fashion to the fact that Other folks have a different philosical point of view I will use coments from recent ARES posts as an example I say the PR around ARES is overblown, that does not mean I am attacking ARES as useless, merely that it's PR is over blown, and with good reason by the ARRL the FCC and the served agencies, that merely a less stiring endorsement of ARES than you seem to want Myself, BB, and Lenn have different levels of opinion on the roles of ARES and the nature of the PR yet you lump us all together as attacking ARES it is not "inappropriate innuendo" to try and get around this spin to look for the turth, but to you no one may challenge the spin, and there is ALWAYS spin in America today You clearly need to get a life I have one. Amateur Radio is a big part of it. Is it paranoia or meglomania? or both Neither. It's pride and respect. no it one of the above or a willfull blindness to facts the ARS can always be improved, that is a fact the only way I see where that can happen is if we can discuss what works well, not so well, not at all calmly and reasonably It is also a clear sign of your disconet with reality that you preceieve any disagreement with your positions as an attack wether on yourself or Amateur Radio My what? "disconet"...?!?! Markie, don't even pretend to know what you're talking about if well i had such hope that you might start laying of the personal attack, but you can't can you cutiing stevie further gratuitous insults Sorry. No kind words for you. Too bad. Plenty of kind words for me...that none of them come from The Foulmouthed Foursome is of little disappointment to me! Have a nice day, another stevie lie Nope. Have a nice day. Steve, K4YZ |
an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: cut to the chase You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. removing the non operative sentence clear sign of mental Illness Stevie boy. Nope. yes it is Whelp, here again we have a lay person making a diagnosis. Where's your medical license, DreckieBoy? Clear sign that I have things that mean a lot to me, Amateur Radio being one of them. clearly mental that you view a dissgreement over the ARS as an attack on yourself When that comment clearly is disparging upon Amateurs as a whole, yes. clearly mental that you view a disagreement over the ARS as an attack on it What was that supposed to say in English? Markie Censored Sentence Replaced. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. Sorry. Don't know what made Markie think that was "non operative"... becuase it had nothing to do with the point being made Sure it did. You just didn't want to have to comment on it since it underminds your rants. THAT was a "clear sign" that Miss Morgan doesn't have an adequate respose to the statement and knows it to be true. more stevie meglomanina and paranoia Nope. More Mark not wanting to get it rubbed in his face. it had nothing to do with the point You mean it had nothing to do with YOUR point... You are NOT Amateur Radio I AM part an parcel of it, though...just like you. which means that I , BB and Todd have to right to express opinions about it, to disgree with you and hold differeing points of view, but anything you disagree with becomes an attack on the ARS and on You, that is paranoia, and/or meglomania An opinion is one thing. Blatant lies and falsehoods are another. I am not "America" either, yet when America was threatened in my day, I came to it's service. I serve it still. As I come to the "defense" of Amateur Radio when I perceive it as having been sleighted with inappropriate innuendo or out-and-out mistruths and deceit. which mean you are reacting in paraniod fashion to the fact that Other folks have a different philosical point of view Please provide reference to your mental health credentials. And please tell us allllllllllllllllll about your "philosophical" credentials while you're at it...Which school of philosophy did you attend? I will use coments from recent ARES posts as an example OK...Where are they? You didn't cite a single ARES, ARRL, OR FCC comment anywhere in this post, Markie... I say the PR around ARES is overblown, that does not mean I am attacking ARES as useless, merely that it's PR is over blown, and with good reason by the ARRL the FCC and the served agencies, that merely a less stiring endorsement of ARES than you seem to want The "stiring" endorsements were NOT from the ARRL or FCC. They were from the served agencies. Who knows better than the agency served what the quality and character of the service they received was, Mrkie? Are you suggesting that you, Lennie, Toiddie or Brain are more qualified to state what the character of any service rendered to any agency on any particular date or event is...?!?! If so, do any of these agency's have a Letter or Memorandum of Understanding with the four of you that delegates their public relations duties to you for future comments? Myself, BB, and Lenn have different levels of opinion on the roles of ARES and the nature of the PR yet you lump us all together as attacking ARES But you do. If you, Brainless and Lennie DO 'attack' the ARES, then I am not the one "lump(ing you) all together"...that's you jumping right on in... it is not "inappropriate innuendo" to try and get around this spin to look for the turth, but to you no one may challenge the spin, and there is ALWAYS spin in America today What spin? Just because YOU lie about almost everything you talk about does NOT mean that everyone else does. You clearly need to get a life I have one. Amateur Radio is a big part of it. Is it paranoia or meglomania? or both Neither. It's pride and respect. no it one of the above or a willfull blindness to facts Nope. Pride and respect. the ARS can always be improved, that is a fact Yep! Wanna help? the only way I see where that can happen is if we can discuss what works well, not so well, not at all calmly and reasonably I agree. But we also DON'T need liars and deceivers involved in the discussion. It is also a clear sign of your disconet with reality that you preceieve any disagreement with your positions as an attack wether on yourself or Amateur Radio My what? "disconet"...?!?! Markie, don't even pretend to know what you're talking about if well i had such hope that you might start laying of the personal attack, but you can't can you cutiing stevie further gratuitous insults There are no "gratuitous insults" there. There's no "personal attack" to lay off of, Markie, unless you were refering to YOUR comment "...It is also a clear sign of your disconet with reality..." You mean THAT personal attack..?!?! One that would suggest that you are a licensed health care professional making a diagnosis? Sheesh. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: cut to the chase You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. removing the non operative sentence clear sign of mental Illness Stevie boy. Nope. yes it is break Whelp, here again we have a lay person making a diagnosis. sure I can recoze metal illnesswhen I see it Where's your medical license, DreckieBoy? I have the same license to pratice that sort of medicne as you do Nursie Clear sign that I have things that mean a lot to me, Amateur Radio being one of them. clearly mental that you view a dissgreement over the ARS as an attack on yourself When that comment clearly is disparging upon Amateurs as a whole, yes. agreeing that you clearly mental I havn't seen such an attack yet from lenn or BB or todd and certainly haven't made one myself clearly mental that you view a disagreement over the ARS as an attack on it What was that supposed to say in English? read it and find out Markie Censored Sentence Replaced. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. Sorry. Don't know what made Markie think that was "non operative"... becuase it had nothing to do with the point being made Sure it did. nope another lie on your part You just didn't want to have to comment on it since it underminds your rants. doesn't at all has nothing to do with what I was saying Indeed it does reinforce my opinion that you are a raving paranoid cuting stevie inabilty to correctly id my gender it had nothing to do with the point You mean it had nothing to do with YOUR point... exactly which is what I said You are NOT Amateur Radio I AM part an parcel of it, though...just like you. which means that I , BB and Todd have to right to express opinions about it, to disgree with you and hold differeing points of view, but anything you disagree with becomes an attack on the ARS and on You, that is paranoia, and/or meglomania An opinion is one thing. Blatant lies and falsehoods are another. no Lies or Falsehoods have been presented just points of view that you find unsettling for some reason I am not "America" either, yet when America was threatened in my day, I came to it's service. I serve it still. As I come to the "defense" of Amateur Radio when I perceive it as having been sleighted with inappropriate innuendo or out-and-out mistruths and deceit. which mean you are reacting in paraniod fashion to the fact that Other folks have a different philosical point of view Please provide reference to your mental health credentials. mine are as good as yours And please tell us allllllllllllllllll about your "philosophical" credentials while you're at it...Which school of philosophy did you attend? I don't give out anything you could use to trace me But I attended many classes in Philosophy as did most real undergrads, and unlike many of them I did in fact absorb something You are the one so obsessed with paper, not I I will use coments from recent ARES posts as an example OK...Where are they? You didn't cite a single ARES, ARRL, OR FCC comment anywhere in this post, Markie... lair as follows I say the PR around ARES is overblown, that does not mean I am attacking ARES as useless, merely that it's PR is over blown, and with good reason by the ARRL the FCC and the served agencies, that merely a less stiring endorsement of ARES than you seem to want The "stiring" endorsements were NOT from the ARRL or FCC. They were from the served agencies. and the reference to those served agencies was present in my comments Who knows better than the agency served what the quality and character of the service they received was, Mrkie? any objective observer does You are opperating on the assumtion that they are being truthful, where I never trust much of what anybody says From their coments one can infer that the served agencies receievd something of value to them, and that they wish to continue doing so, nothing more can be counted on Are you suggesting that you, Lennie, Toiddie or Brain are more qualified to state what the character of any service rendered to any agency on any particular date or event is...?!?! not at all merely that we are able to releize that they are buttering us up in order to see that we show up the next time too No one likes to look critcaly at what may not have worked well Indeed your reaction to the suggestion that the served agnecies may not be as pleased with us as they say show they have a good reason NOT to be at all critcal of the quality of the help they get cutting a snide and completely irelavant coment Myself, BB, and Lenn have different levels of opinion on the roles of ARES and the nature of the PR yet you lump us all together as attacking ARES But you do. If you, Brainless and Lennie DO 'attack' the ARES, then I am not the one "lump(ing you) all together"...that's you jumping right on in... I have never attacked ARES, not once. I have always adknowled their positive role, just disagreed that it is as big as the PR states. I have not observed Brain doing so either. Lenn has been careless enough in his bombast to attack the management of ARES and the PR around it but doesn't address one way or the other wether ARES helps anyone, but Lenn is of course in the porrest postition of the 3 of us to judge that it is not "inappropriate innuendo" to try and get around this spin to look for the turth, but to you no one may challenge the spin, and there is ALWAYS spin in America today What spin? that the claimed made for ARES are inflated of course they are it is only human nature Just because YOU lie about almost everything you talk about does NOT mean that everyone else does. all politicains lies the head of of the Red Cross et al are esscaily politicains Look at Libby Dole for example President of the red cross then would be president of the US that you are too brainless to reconize the degree to which deceit is part of Us life esp US public life You clearly need to get a life I have one. Amateur Radio is a big part of it. Is it paranoia or meglomania? or both Neither. It's pride and respect. no it one of the above or a willfull blindness to facts Nope. Pride and respect. Willful blindness to reality the ARS can always be improved, that is a fact Yep! Wanna help? sure I try but folks like you are so wraped up in the myth that they don't see the reality the only way I see where that can happen is if we can discuss what works well, not so well, not at all calmly and reasonably I agree. But we also DON'T need liars and deceivers involved in the discussion. but we do, we most esp need such people involved how else are we to understand how to deal the political world Just look at the code test issue and the results of your labour, By choosing the right methods and appealing to what the FCC needs, and/or threatening them where they don't care to fight we have won, while just 2 weeks before an ARRL rep was telling our club how certain the ARRL was that no NPRM would come out this year and likely not the next It is also a clear sign of your disconet with reality that you preceieve any disagreement with your positions as an attack wether on yourself or Amateur Radio My what? "disconet"...?!?! Markie, don't even pretend to know what you're talking about if well i had such hope that you might start laying of the personal attack, but you can't can you cutiing stevie further gratuitous insults There are no "gratuitous insults" there. yes they are and were they are your stock in trade There's no "personal attack" to lay off of, Markie, unless you were refering to YOUR comment "...It is also a clear sign of your disconet with reality..." your inablity to admit you are in fact attacking me almost consantly certainly underminds anything you hope to achieve You mean THAT personal attack..?!?! One that would suggest that you are a licensed health care professional making a diagnosis? Sheesh. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Oh! This is P R E C I O U S ! ! ! ! An anonymous heckler and a known pathological liar/deviant coming to Lennie's "defense" ! ! ! I see no "coming to Len's "defense"" in Mark's comment. I didn't think you would, and I don't. Then we're both satisfied! Lucky day! Gee, Lennie! The company YOU keep! Steve, if you treated folks with a smidgen of dignity, you might find a kind comment every once in a while as well. But you don't, so you won't. Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... I need not prove anything to you. You may think I do, but that is faulty thinking on your part. (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. Faulty thinking on your part, again. You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. Faulty thinking on your part, again. |
b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Steve, if you treated folks with a smidgen of dignity, you might find a kind comment every once in a while as well. But you don't, so you won't. Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... I need not prove anything to you. You may think I do, but that is faulty thinking on your part. Oh, I don't think you have to prove anything to me... But if it were ME making all these easily disproven asserions in public, I'd want to get my side out in front so all could know "where I was coming from"... So far all we have are your assertions and your damnations for anyone insisting that you substantiate them. (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. Faulty thinking on your part, again. Nope. Fact. None of your assertions, ie: unlicensed devices, ARES, etc aren't even remotely factual, unless requalified with language such as "in my opinion..." You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. Faulty thinking on your part, again. Nope. You make untrue disparging remarks that you expect others to blindly accept or blow off. I do neither. That YOU would expect it to be so is the "faulty thinking". Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Steve, if you treated folks with a smidgen of dignity, you might find a kind comment every once in a while as well. But you don't, so you won't. Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you Stvie you have never treated anyone with dignity you were condessending and insulting from your arrival in this forum continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... I need not prove anything to you. You may think I do, but that is faulty thinking on your part. Oh, I don't think you have to prove anything to me... you certainly claim he does guess you are admiting to lying But if it were ME making all these easily disproven asserions in public, I'd want to get my side out in front so all could know "where I was coming from"... you haven't dispooven anything he has said or that I have for that matter So far all we have are your assertions and your damnations for anyone insisting that you substantiate them. he advances lines of reasoning and explaination and does far more politely than you (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. Faulty thinking on your part, again. Nope. entirely Fact. nope None of your assertions, ie: unlicensed devices, ARES, etc aren't even remotely factual, unless requalified with language such as "in my opinion..." entirely factual You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. Faulty thinking on your part, again. Nope. You make untrue disparging remarks that you expect others to blindly accept or blow off. I am sure he does not expect you to blindly accept them or blow them off. He expects you deny threaten harras and generaly act lack a child and you rarely disappiont I do neither. indeed you bather and rage and act like a child That YOU would expect it to be so is the "faulty thinking". more of stevie making up something then disproving Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Oh! This is P R E C I O U S ! ! ! ! An anonymous heckler and a known pathological liar/deviant coming to Lennie's "defense" ! ! ! I see no "coming to Len's "defense"" in Mark's comment. I didn't think you would, and I don't. Then we're both satisfied! Lucky day! Gee, Lennie! The company YOU keep! Steve, if you treated folks with a smidgen of dignity, you might find a kind comment every once in a while as well. But you don't, so you won't. Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... Not nearly enough concern to substantiate it for you. (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. Not the "reality" that you dwell in. You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. You are easily offended. I think that you wish to be offended. |
K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Steve, if you treated folks with a smidgen of dignity, you might find a kind comment every once in a while as well. But you don't, so you won't. Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... I need not prove anything to you. You may think I do, but that is faulty thinking on your part. Oh, I don't think you have to prove anything to me... But if it were ME making all these easily disproven asserions in public, I'd want to get my side out in front so all could know "where I was coming from"... Indeed. So tell us more about your claims of seven hostile actions. |
an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Steve, if you treated folks with a smidgen of dignity, you might find a kind comment every once in a while as well. But you don't, so you won't. Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you Stvie you have never treated anyone with dignity you were condessending and insulting from your arrival in this forum And you are, once again, lying. Why do you keep doing that, even in the face of archived evidence to the contrary? What combination of drugs were the people who "raised' you on that you get these strange ideas that lying is "OK" and that it is somehow "justifed" What do you think you're accomplishing? continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... I need not prove anything to you. You may think I do, but that is faulty thinking on your part. Oh, I don't think you have to prove anything to me... you certainly claim he does Nope. Brain only "owes" himself and his family. A man's reputation and legacy stands or falls on his character and honesty. guess you are admiting to lying Guess you're wrong. But if it were ME making all these easily disproven asserions in public, I'd want to get my side out in front so all could know "where I was coming from"... you haven't dispooven anything he has said or that I have for that matter Sure I have...starting with his lies about having operated legally from Somalia. Follow that up with his insistance that "unlicensed devices play a major role in emergency comms". Wrap it it (for now) with his silliness about ARES not bein able to respond to call-outs and it's service being "overblown". So far all we have are your assertions and your damnations for anyone insisting that you substantiate them. he advances lines of reasoning and explaination and does far more politely than you With the same profanity and demaning tone of Lennie...Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. There's nothing "reasonin" nor "polite" about lying, regardless of how eloquently it is said. (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. Faulty thinking on your part, again. Nope. entirely Nope. Already proven otherwise. Fact. nope A-yup. None of your assertions, ie: unlicensed devices, ARES, etc aren't even remotely factual, unless requalified with language such as "in my opinion..." entirely factual Not in the least. Show me reference that SUBSTANTIATE a single word of any of it, Markie. You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. Faulty thinking on your part, again. Nope. You make untrue disparging remarks that you expect others to blindly accept or blow off. I am sure he does not expect you to blindly accept them or blow them off. He expects you deny threaten harras and generaly act lack a child and you rarely disappiont Nope. He hopes that he can make up stories that will ass fopr valid and then get's riled when he's called on them. Then he get's even MORE riled when anyone dares to challenge his "opinions". He accuses me ot that, but that's more Brain trying to his tracks. I do neither. indeed you bather and rage and act like a child "bather".... "rage and act like a child.."?!?! Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. That YOU would expect it to be so is the "faulty thinking". more of stevie making up something then disproving I didn't make any of it up, Markie. Making things up is in LennieRealm. That's the home to those who like to lie, misdirect, cuss and accuse others of "childish" behaviour all-the-while stomping their feet and demanding that others threat them a certain way while refusing to do it themselves. Like you, for example. Steve, K4YZ |
b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... Not nearly enough concern to substantiate it for you. Not nearly enough FACTS for you to substantiate it, Brain. (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. Not the "reality" that you dwell in. My reality is truth. Yours is...well...it's something else... You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. You are easily offended. I think that you wish to be offended. Nope. I'd like to carry one meaningful discussions (and frequently do) about Amateur Radio issues. The problem is you, Lennie, and just a few other ner-do-wells who seem to think that what you do is "constructive". Silly Brain. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Steve, if you treated folks with a smidgen of dignity, you might find a kind comment every once in a while as well. But you don't, so you won't. Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you Stvie you have never treated anyone with dignity you were condessending and insulting from your arrival in this forum And you are, once again, lying. Not at all you showed up gere all those years ago full of yourself and how generous you were felling that 5wpm morse you would (a if it was in your power to do so) ok if people like me accepted it as a final solution, your insulting and condesending manner was so think it was choking Why do you keep doing that, even in the face of archived evidence to the contrary? no lie what so ever What combination of drugs were the people who "raised' you on that you get these strange ideas that lying is "OK" and that it is somehow "justifed" more simple libel, andnow of my parents as well stevie What do you think you're accomplishing? leting you show the world what a narrow minded sack of **** you realy are continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... I need not prove anything to you. You may think I do, but that is faulty thinking on your part. Oh, I don't think you have to prove anything to me... you certainly claim he does Nope. more lies you advance these demends constantly Brain only "owes" himself and his family. A man's reputation and legacy stands or falls on his character and honesty. you climing to be kin of BB now? guess you are admiting to lying Guess you're wrong. nope I am right you are just not man enough to do it in words But if it were ME making all these easily disproven asserions in public, I'd want to get my side out in front so all could know "where I was coming from"... you haven't dispooven anything he has said or that I have for that matter Sure I have...starting with his lies about having operated legally from Somalia. sorry who did what and you proved it how? Follow that up with his insistance that "unlicensed devices play a major role in emergency comms". Wrap it it (for now) with his silliness about ARES not bein able to respond to call-outs and it's service being "overblown". unlicensed devices do play a major role in emergency comm simple fact.and ARES PR is over blown meaning you have proved nothing to the contary So far all we have are your assertions and your damnations for anyone insisting that you substantiate them. he advances lines of reasoning and explaination and does far more politely than you With the same profanity and demaning tone of Lennie...Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. which is more polite than you being more polite than you isn't hard There's nothing "reasonin" nor "polite" about lying, regardless of how eloquently it is said. hoist by your petard but you do need to learn english, one can be very polite and be lying thier ass off, check the speeches of most politicos (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. Faulty thinking on your part, again. Nope. entirely Nope. Already proven otherwise. you have proven nothing but your own dishonesty and stupidity Fact. nope A-yup. None of your assertions, ie: unlicensed devices, ARES, etc aren't even remotely factual, unless requalified with language such as "in my opinion..." entirely factual Not in the least. entirely factual Show me reference that SUBSTANTIATE a single word of any of it, Markie. already have as have bb You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. Faulty thinking on your part, again. Nope. You make untrue disparging remarks that you expect others to blindly accept or blow off. I am sure he does not expect you to blindly accept them or blow them off. He expects you deny threaten harras and generaly act lack a child and you rarely disappiont Nope. He hopes that he can make up stories that will ass fopr valid and then get's riled when he's called on them. Then he get's even MORE riled when anyone dares to challenge his "opinions". which will "ass fopr" you don't challnce people to insult and denagrate people you don't discuss anything either you just go on insisting you are right and no discussion of he matter can be tolerated He accuses me ot that, but that's more Brain trying to his tracks. you do make stuff all the time you apply your mind to distorting something then attacking what wasn't said I do neither. indeed you bather and rage and act like a child "bather".... "rage and act like a child.."?!?! Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. glad to see you agree That YOU would expect it to be so is the "faulty thinking". more of stevie making up something then disproving I didn't make any of it up, Markie. you do all the time Making things up is in LennieRealm. That's the home to those who like to lie, misdirect, cuss and accuse others of "childish" behaviour all-the-while stomping their feet and demanding that others threat them a certain way while refusing to do it themselves. projecting again Like you, for example. not realy it is you that can't stand up to his own standards Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... Not nearly enough concern to substantiate it for you. Not nearly enough FACTS for you to substantiate it, Brain. right you did not provide enough facts to substnaiate it Steve you are agreeing with him and with me indeed you even refuse to stat what you claim those acheveiments are (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. Not the "reality" that you dwell in. My reality is truth. you have no contact with reality prehaps not even by radio Yours is...well...it's something else... you would never know You accept press realeases as gosple turth that is stupid, and at best niave at worst willfully blind You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. You are easily offended. I think that you wish to be offended. Nope. I'd like to carry one meaningful discussions (and frequently do) about Amateur Radio issues. a real whopper there Stevie The problem is you, Lennie, and just a few other ner-do-wells who seem to think that what you do is "constructive". yes we think it is constructive to look behind the curtain at the real world Silly Brain. Steve, K4YZ |
From: "b.b." on Fri 29 Jul 2005 03:06
K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Steve, if you treated folks with a smidgen of dignity, you might find a kind comment every once in a while as well. But you don't, so you won't. Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... Not nearly enough concern to substantiate it for you. Brian, it doesn't matter WHAT Stebie is shown, presented, given links to, or gift wrapped as a birthday present. He will STILL call it a "lie" and continue on the personal- insult vendetta of his own. His newsgroup skin is microns thick and emotional pain threshold is so low it may be off medical charts. ANYTHING in disagreement with his statements and he is immediately in a FIGHT mood, insulting and demeaning those who disagree with him. Rather remarkable in his volatility. (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. Not the "reality" that you dwell in. He still hasn't understood that. He's either nuts or getting there faster than he realizes... Perhaps he just feigns all that "outrage" in order to call attention to himself? That's a possibility but unfortunately just as sick. You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. You are easily offended. I think that you wish to be offended. There IS some psychological syndrome like that, but dwelling on his psychosis only results in more and more ANGER of his. And this posting I make will just inflame him more...tsk, tsk. Well, that's how it goes... bit bit |
K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... Not nearly enough concern to substantiate it for you. Not nearly enough FACTS for you to substantiate it, Brain. Lack of concern for your demands. (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. Not the "reality" that you dwell in. My reality is truth. Yes, yes, yes. You are the way the truth and the light... You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. You are easily offended. I think that you wish to be offended. Nope. I'd like to carry one meaningful discussions (and frequently do) about Amateur Radio issues. One meaningful discussions? You're too pluralistic. The problem is you, Lennie, and just a few other ner-do-wells who seem to think that what you do is "constructive". Hi! I suppose that you think what you do is constructive. Hi, hi! You're emotionally and mentally defective. |
K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... Not nearly enough concern to substantiate it for you. Not nearly enough FACTS for you to substantiate it, Brain. Merely a lack of concern for your demands. (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. Not the "reality" that you dwell in. My reality is truth. Yes, yes, yes. You are the way the truth and the light... You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. You are easily offended. I think that you wish to be offended. Nope. I'd like to carry one meaningful discussions (and frequently do) about Amateur Radio issues. One meaningful discussions? You're way too pluralistic. The problem is you, Lennie, and just a few other ner-do-wells who seem to think that what you do is "constructive". Hi! I suppose that you think what you do is constructive? Hi, hi! We don't continually embarass amateur radio and bring discredit upon the Extra Class licensees the way you do. You should be proud of yourselves. |
wrote: From: "b.b." on Fri 29 Jul 2005 03:06 K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Steve, if you treated folks with a smidgen of dignity, you might find a kind comment every once in a while as well. But you don't, so you won't. Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... Not nearly enough concern to substantiate it for you. Brian, it doesn't matter WHAT Stebie is shown, presented, given links to, or gift wrapped as a birthday present. He will STILL call it a "lie" and continue on the personal- insult vendetta of his own. I think he's nuts. His newsgroup skin is microns thick and emotional pain threshold is so low it may be off medical charts. ANYTHING in disagreement with his statements and he is immediately in a FIGHT mood, insulting and demeaning those who disagree with him. Rather remarkable in his volatility. Then there's his fixation with male genitalia. It's just not right. (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. Not the "reality" that you dwell in. He still hasn't understood that. He's either nuts or getting there faster than he realizes... Perhaps he just feigns all that "outrage" in order to call attention to himself? That's a possibility but unfortunately just as sick. Nurse, heal thyself. You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. You are easily offended. I think that you wish to be offended. There IS some psychological syndrome like that, but dwelling on his psychosis only results in more and more ANGER of his. He is always angry. Many times he uses fighting words in what could have been a normal conversation. And this posting I make will just inflame him more...tsk, tsk. Well, that's how it goes... bit bit Maybe he needs to just go and check in. |
b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Steve, if you treated folks with a smidgen of dignity, you might find a kind comment every once in a while as well. But you don't, so you won't. Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... I need not prove anything to you. You may think I do, but that is faulty thinking on your part. Oh, I don't think you have to prove anything to me... But if it were ME making all these easily disproven asserions in public, I'd want to get my side out in front so all could know "where I was coming from"... Indeed. So tell us more about your claims of seven hostile actions. I guess Steve will deal with his truth in due time. Hi! |
an old friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... Not nearly enough concern to substantiate it for you. Not nearly enough FACTS for you to substantiate it, Brain. right you did not provide enough facts to substnaiate it Steve you are agreeing with him and with me No, I am not... I am saying BRAIN did not care enough to substantiate HIS claims, several of which were made in your absence. indeed you even refuse to stat what you claim those acheveiments are Untrue. It's been hashed, re-hashed, and hashed over repeatedly. That YOU won't take time to dig back through the archives to see what I am talking about is not justification for me to re-do the whole thing again. (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. Not the "reality" that you dwell in. My reality is truth. you have no contact with reality prehaps not even by radio My reality touches on things you never conceptualized of. Markie...Mostly due to your poor English skills and inability to assimilate the knowledge. Yours is...well...it's something else... you would never know I bet I know more than you think I do. You accept press realeases as gosple turth Nope. But I know what actually transpired in most of the recent ARES mount-outs as opposed to what was "reported", and I ahve yet to find any discrepancy between the two. that is stupid, and at best niave at worst willfully blind Read the above, Markie. Insisting others are "blind" when you can't even find the light switch is assinine. You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. You are easily offended. I think that you wish to be offended. Nope. I'd like to carry one meaningful discussions (and frequently do) about Amateur Radio issues. a real whopper there Stevie Nope. The problem is you, Lennie, and just a few other ner-do-wells who seem to think that what you do is "constructive". yes we think it is constructive to look behind the curtain at the real world The "real world" is NOT behind a curtain, Markie. It's out here for all to see. And I see you've screwed the pooch again. If you knew how to construct a meaningful sentence, you would quit falling into that trap...a trap YOU set. Steve, K4YZ |
b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... Not nearly enough concern to substantiate it for you. Not nearly enough FACTS for you to substantiate it, Brain. Merely a lack of concern for your demands. More like a lack of interest in your own flailing character, Brain. (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. Not the "reality" that you dwell in. My reality is truth. Yes, yes, yes. You are the way the truth and the light... Nope. Not "my" truth...Just THE truth. You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. You are easily offended. I think that you wish to be offended. Nope. I'd like to carry one meaningful discussions (and frequently do) about Amateur Radio issues. One meaningful discussions? You're way too pluralistic. Let's call it multi-tasking. I am sure it awes you that some people can actually chew gum and walk, but it happens. The problem is you, Lennie, and just a few other ner-do-wells who seem to think that what you do is "constructive". Hi! I suppose that you think what you do is constructive? Hi, hi! It keeps you occupied. We don't continually embarass amateur radio and bring discredit upon the Extra Class licensees the way you do. You should be proud of yourselves. I don't bring "discredit upon the Extra Class licensees", Brain. If I bring any discredit, and I serious doubt it, it's just on me. Just like YOUR lying and deceit does not bring "discredit" on Air Force veterans or Amateur Radio General class licensee... Just Brian P Burke, who happens to have been those things at one time or another. So what are you going to do to fix it? Steve, K4YZ |
wrote: Snarly Stebie doesn't do much else in this newsgroup but boast generalities of a non-specific nature while generally insulting everyone who doesn't agree with him. Untrue, but then when has "truth" been your suit, Lennie? He has changed his boasting so many times that it is difficult to know what he has actually done or experienced. I haven't been boasting. On the otherhand this post I am replying to is over 300 lines long. Snarly Stebie's version of "truth" is whatever he wants to claim on any particular day. He has NO references on any of it. Some examples: Stebie would challenge "call the VA and they can tell you" [all about Stebie's military record] Untrue. You at one time doubted my having served at all. The VA CAN varify that information. You refused, of course...Lot's of excuses...Nothing new there... Big snip In the beginning of Stebie's tirades he mentioned a Medical Discharge that cut his marine career to 18 years (rather than a full 20). He then made that an "Honorable" instead of a medical discharge; if he had gotten that discharge some 5 years before (his alleged time was 1974 to 1992), why would he not have said "honorable" in the beginning? That's all archived, BTW. Well...MOST of it is archived. You've taken some literary license with what was said, but I am sure it's much more colorful in your mind that way. Stebie claimed to have been in "seven hostile actions" during his military career, but it seems he is spinning that into the USMC being involved in those...while he was in it. He has no proof at all shown in here that HE was IN any of those hostile actions. That's in newer archives. And we won't discuss any of them. Just like you harrangue Dave Heil over his service in the State Department (all of it fact-based and verifyable), I shant give you the pleasure. You can go ahead and insist "it didn't happen" based upon my refusal to tell you the details, if you care to, but ti still doesn't make it any less factual. Stebie has claimed "working in military radio communications" but isn't at all familiar with the very common (quarter million R/T units made and operational) SINCGARS...(SNIP) Lennie, I guess it's silly to point out to you that SINCGARS is NOT the end-all of radio communications in the Armed Forces. Your 3000th telling of yet another SINCGARS story does not make it any more valuable than any other communications resource...Then, now or in the future. Nore snip At best, Stebie's claims are only for an "Assistant" NCOIC position at a MARS station in Okinawa in the 1980s. MARS stations are NOT a regular part of any service branch radio communications...are, at best, a sort of special services like operation where they MIGHT be used for regular comms in case of catastrophic happenings to the Defense Communication System (DCS). But...but...but...LENNIE! YOU are the one who made the big deal about who runs MARS, etc etc even when it wasn't an issue! That's in very recent archives. Worse yet, it took months for Stebie to acknowledge that the Department of Defense directs MARS, even when given the link to the directive itself available on the Internet at the DoD website. It was never in question. Lennie is uttering a blatant falsehood every time he repeats this. Lying IS Lennie's forte. This is why Lennie H doesn't get the respect and admiration he THINKS he deserves... More Big Snip a real whopper there Stevie True! Google archives have the proof in them, in thousands of personal-insult messages generated by Stebie...with only a few (perhaps a dozen at most) which are actual discussions devoid of personal attacks at somebody. Nice try, Lennie. Looking in the mirror again, obviously. A survey of the posts of "Lenof21", "Lenover21", etc etc will show precious few that don't "diss" "Rev Jimmie", "Katapult Kellie", "Der Feldwebel", etc etc etc. PRECIOUS few... And the darned ironic thing is that I'm the one who usually jabs Lennie, yet Lennie engages in all these "persoanl insult" diatribes at almost everyone... The problem is you, Lennie, and just a few other ner-do-wells who seem to think that what you do is "constructive". yes we think it is constructive to look behind the curtain at the real world That would disturb Stebie's fantasy. He wants the nicely-ordered military-style discipline he is no longer a part of...(SNIP) Wrong. (UNSNIP)...one where everything is explained and laid-out, no room for deviation from the precise order of things. He can fit into that. However, if the environment changes, he gets very upset and angry. He can't handle disagreements with his opinions, tries to defend himself (no need in normal discussion not about a person) by issuing a series of personal insults directed at his perceived "accuser." Even MORE ironic that I have never addressed you (or anyone) as the "accuser"...that would be a LennieTerm. One that helps to establish "victim status" There is, nor has there ever been, a SINGLE "correct" way of doing things in amateur radio. There's been ONE constant in Amatuer Radio... The license. The one you don't have...The one you CAN'T get. Amateur radio is NOT a military...(SNIP) Your reality is slipping again, Lennie... You really stretch to make these up, don't you..?!?! Or is it just an excuse to tell Mrs Lennie "Just one more minute Dear...", hoping she'll fall asleep before you have to go "do your duty". But, the old rank-status-privilege class consciousness of the old six-class license system suits the ordered, disciplined military psyche. You keep mentioning "military psyche" along with your 1950's-era radio stories, Lennie... It doesn't take an LMHSW to figure you out... More big snip. Radio is radio. No, it's not. Not in the APPLICATION. This forum is about AMATEUR RADIO...Not Army, or PLMRS, or GMRS, etc etc etc. Big snip. One MUST look at what other radio services are doing. Firstly, amateurs must co-exist in the EM spectrum with all other radio services. We must co-exist in that we do not cause any disruption of service to OTHER radio services. What goes on inside those band edges is a whole different story. Secondly, other radio services, having (usually) more flexibility in mode type use, can offer insight into possible new methods of communications. But...but...but...LENNIE! YOU are the one who keeps yelling "IT'S JUST A HOBBY!" Where does the FUN of operating radios that are software defined and require almost NO human interaction to make work go...?!?! Thirdly, closing off minds to what happens elsewhere and claiming it is "for the good of amateur radio" is a simple cop-out, an excuse NOT to learn, investigate, to enquire about new things, new possibilities; it's a rationale for being LAZY. Lennie...YOU keep repeating that threadbare and untruthful rant over and over, and it's no more true today than when you first sprout it. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: an old friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... Not nearly enough concern to substantiate it for you. Not nearly enough FACTS for you to substantiate it, Brain. right you did not provide enough facts to substnaiate it Steve you are agreeing with him and with me No, I am not... you change your stary so often Stevie I am saying BRAIN did not care enough to substantiate HIS claims, several of which were made in your absence. another change indeed you even refuse to stat what you claim those acheveiments are Untrue. a Lie Steve It's been hashed, re-hashed, and hashed over repeatedly. That YOU won't take time to dig back through the archives to see what I am talking about is not justification for me to re-do the whole thing again. I have gone through 60 pages of titles of your posts and not found them, You truely don'tseem to realize the amount of **** you spew out in RRAP making very hard to find something esp when you don't provide enough info to know what one is looking for but the translation of your word is that you are too lazy to do so, or the "acheivements" are so small that you are emabrrashed to restate them (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. Not the "reality" that you dwell in. My reality is truth. you have no contact with reality prehaps not even by radio My reality touches on things you never conceptualized of. I am sure your "reality" touchs things I no concept of, and mostly things that totaly the product of your twisted mind too Markie...Mostly due to your poor English skills and inability to assimilate the knowledge. Not at all I just prefer a better grade of SciFI Yours is...well...it's something else... you would never know I bet I know more than you think I do. I doubt that you do of course know thing I don't, as I know things you don't. You accept press realeases as gosple turth Nope. yes you do But I know what actually transpired in most of the recent ARES mount-outs as opposed to what was "reported", and I ahve yet to find any discrepancy between the two. You know what happens in ARES accros the nation? Bull****, you might know what happens in Tennesse that is stupid, and at best niave at worst willfully blind Read the above, Markie. and I stand behind "that is stupid, and at best niave at worst willfully blind" Insisting others are "blind" when you can't even find the light switch is assinine. I know where the light switch is You don't know what light is You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. You are easily offended. I think that you wish to be offended. Nope. I'd like to carry one meaningful discussions (and frequently do) about Amateur Radio issues. a real whopper there Stevie Nope. yes you rarely discuss anything to do radio amateur or otherwise. such post comprise less than 5% of your posting of the last few days, and those post are small in size compared your volume of personal attacks The problem is you, Lennie, and just a few other ner-do-wells who seem to think that what you do is "constructive". yes we think it is constructive to look behind the curtain at the real world The "real world" is NOT behind a curtain, Markie. It is for you since you can't see it It's out here for all to see. except it seems for you And I see you've screwed the pooch again. If you knew how to construct a meaningful sentence, you would quit falling into that trap...a trap YOU set. not fallen into any trap Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... Not nearly enough concern to substantiate it for you. Not nearly enough FACTS for you to substantiate it, Brain. Merely a lack of concern for your demands. More like a lack of interest in your own flailing character, Brain. flailing Character Steve, gee you are the one that goes flaiing al the time if you meant failing well i suppose that Brain and Myself don't care how you define character, indeed if you were an example of good character it says much fr the merits of being evil (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. Not the "reality" that you dwell in. My reality is truth. Yes, yes, yes. You are the way the truth and the light... Nope. Not "my" truth...Just THE truth. very little truth at all comes form you hand Mostly what comes is your efforts to impose your moral values on the rest of us You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. You are easily offended. I think that you wish to be offended. Nope. I'd like to carry one meaningful discussions (and frequently do) about Amateur Radio issues. One meaningful discussions? You're way too pluralistic. Let's call it multi-tasking. I am sure it awes you that some people can actually chew gum and walk, but it happens. and in addition to wishing to be offended you also seem to enjoy being offensive The problem is you, Lennie, and just a few other ner-do-wells who seem to think that what you do is "constructive". Hi! I suppose that you think what you do is constructive? Hi, hi! It keeps you occupied. We don't continually embarass amateur radio and bring discredit upon the Extra Class licensees the way you do. You should be proud of yourselves. I don't bring "discredit upon the Extra Class licensees", Brain. If I bring any discredit, and I serious doubt it, it's just on me. progress boyo but you bring discrdeit not merely on the Extra Class but on all the ARS Just like YOUR lying and deceit does not bring "discredit" on Air Force veterans or Amateur Radio General class licensee... you do like piling on Just Brian P Burke, who happens to have been those things at one time or another. those things? So what are you going to do to fix it? fix what? you have yet to show a lie? the closest you have ever come is show some facts can be disputed Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: wrote: Snarly Stebie doesn't do much else in this newsgroup but boast generalities of a non-specific nature while generally insulting everyone who doesn't agree with him. Untrue, but then when has "truth" been your suit, Lennie? entirely true He has changed his boasting so many times that it is difficult to know what he has actually done or experienced. I haven't been boasting. sure have been boasting about your achivements sayning they are better than Lenn without of course saying what they are On the otherhand this post I am replying to is over 300 lines long. So? Now you are trying to ditate how people may express themselves Snarly Stebie's version of "truth" is whatever he wants to claim on any particular day. He has NO references on any of it. Some examples: Stebie would challenge "call the VA and they can tell you" [all about Stebie's military record] Untrue. You at one time doubted my having served at all. The VA CAN varify that information. You refused, of course...Lot's of excuses...Nothing new there... No Stevie the people who do that but only to a small degree is USAREC in St.Louis MO But they can't verify a claim that you will make spefic enough to even ask about Big snip In the beginning of Stebie's tirades he mentioned a Medical Discharge that cut his marine career to 18 years (rather than a full 20). He then made that an "Honorable" instead of a medical discharge; if he had gotten that discharge some 5 years before (his alleged time was 1974 to 1992), why would he not have said "honorable" in the beginning? That's all archived, BTW. Well...MOST of it is archived. You've taken some literary license with what was said, but I am sure it's much more colorful in your mind that way. and you admit to this or not? Stebie claimed to have been in "seven hostile actions" during his military career, but it seems he is spinning that into the USMC being involved in those...while he was in it. He has no proof at all shown in here that HE was IN any of those hostile actions. That's in newer archives. And we won't discuss any of them. then they are claims without proof, or BYS Stevie lies Just like you harrangue Dave Heil over his service in the State Department (all of it fact-based and verifyable), I shant give you the pleasure. You can go ahead and insist "it didn't happen" based upon my refusal to tell you the details, if you care to, but ti still doesn't make it any less factual. just appling YOUR OWN STANDARDS Stevie Stebie has claimed "working in military radio communications" but isn't at all familiar with the very common (quarter million R/T units made and operational) SINCGARS...(SNIP) Lennie, I guess it's silly to point out to you that SINCGARS is NOT the end-all of radio communications in the Armed Forces. but you know nothing of the system where I a 54E know a afair about them, without having served a commo related MOS. make it very dubious Your 3000th telling of yet another SINCGARS story does not make it any more valuable than any other communications resource...Then, now or in the future. Nore snip At best, Stebie's claims are only for an "Assistant" NCOIC position at a MARS station in Okinawa in the 1980s. MARS stations are NOT a regular part of any service branch radio communications...are, at best, a sort of special services like operation where they MIGHT be used for regular comms in case of catastrophic happenings to the Defense Communication System (DCS). break But...but...but...LENNIE! YOU are the one who made the big deal about who runs MARS, etc etc even when it wasn't an issue! more stevie lies That's in very recent archives. Worse yet, it took months for Stebie to acknowledge that the Department of Defense directs MARS, even when given the link to the directive itself available on the Internet at the DoD website. you claimed otherwise It was never in question. Lennie is uttering a blatant falsehood every time he repeats this. Lying IS Lennie's forte. This is why Lennie H doesn't get the respect and admiration he THINKS he deserves... Stevie just goes and on dening his own words More Big Snip a real whopper there Stevie True! Google archives have the proof in them, in thousands of personal-insult messages generated by Stebie...with only a few (perhaps a dozen at most) which are actual discussions devoid of personal attacks at somebody. Nice try, Lennie. BUZZ wrong it is the truth although with your limited mind you may be unaware of the sheer volume of **** you generate here in RRAP Looking in the mirror again, obviously. A survey of the posts of "Lenof21", "Lenover21", etc etc will show precious few that don't "diss" "Rev Jimmie", "Katapult Kellie", "Der Feldwebel", etc etc etc. PRECIOUS few... And the darned ironic thing is that I'm the one who usually jabs Lennie, yet Lennie engages in all these "persoanl insult" diatribes at almost everyone... you must be reading a different Usenet than I am Stevie or be lying or delusional The problem is you, Lennie, and just a few other ner-do-wells who seem to think that what you do is "constructive". yes we think it is constructive to look behind the curtain at the real world That would disturb Stebie's fantasy. He wants the nicely-ordered military-style discipline he is no longer a part of...(SNIP) Wrong. right You can't handle to turth (UNSNIP)...one where everything is explained and laid-out, no room for deviation from the precise order of things. He can fit into that. However, if the environment changes, he gets very upset and angry. He can't handle disagreements with his opinions, tries to defend himself (no need in normal discussion not about a person) by issuing a series of personal insults directed at his perceived "accuser." Even MORE ironic that I have never addressed you (or anyone) as the "accuser"...that would be a LennieTerm. One that helps to establish "victim status" more Steve evasion, and another lie you have called me on accusing you There is, nor has there ever been, a SINGLE "correct" way of doing things in amateur radio. There's been ONE constant in Amatuer Radio... The license. then why don't and why have you never treated other license holder with any respect? even if I granted you abuse of Lenn on that issue it doesn't explian your treatment of Myself of Todd and of Brain The one you don't have...The one you CAN'T get. More Libel Steve the second half of the statement is liekly not true and you should know it is likely not true Amateur radio is NOT a military...(SNIP) Your reality is slipping again, Lennie... no he is trying to guess at the nature of your twisted mind You really stretch to make these up, don't you..?!?! not at all you seem to act like a drill sgt (whatever the fool marines call the army calls em that), and expect the rest of us are going to fall in sexual inuendo cut But, the old rank-status-privilege class consciousness of the old six-class license system suits the ordered, disciplined military psyche. You keep mentioning "military psyche" along with your 1950's-era radio stories, Lennie... yes he does. your point? It doesn't take an LMHSW to figure you out... More big snip. Radio is radio. No, it's not. Not in the APPLICATION. Radio is NOT radio Stevie? my, my you do need your meds This forum is about AMATEUR RADIO...Not Army, or PLMRS, or GMRS, etc etc etc. then why don't you write about Amateur Radio once and awhile Big snip. One MUST look at what other radio services are doing. Firstly, amateurs must co-exist in the EM spectrum with all other radio services. We must co-exist in that we do not cause any disruption of service to OTHER radio services. What goes on inside those band edges is a whole different story. IOW we should ignore the technolgies around us and focus on what? Morse Coded OOK CW? Secondly, other radio services, having (usually) more flexibility in mode type use, can offer insight into possible new methods of communications. But...but...but...LENNIE! YOU are the one who keeps yelling "IT'S JUST A HOBBY!" Where does the FUN of operating radios that are software defined and require almost NO human interaction to make work go...?!?! I on't particular want to work that hard just to make the RADIO go, Id rather spend my time and effort dealing with people at the other end Thirdly, closing off minds to what happens elsewhere and claiming it is "for the good of amateur radio" is a simple cop-out, an excuse NOT to learn, investigate, to enquire about new things, new possibilities; it's a rationale for being LAZY. Lennie...YOU keep repeating that threadbare and untruthful rant over and over, and it's no more true today than when you first sprout it. you operate that way, Jim N2EY is politer about but operates that way another stevie forgery Steve, K4YZ |
From: "b.b." on Sat 30 Jul 2005 05:03
wrote: From: "b.b." on Fri 29 Jul 2005 03:06 K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Steve, if you treated folks with a smidgen of dignity, you might find a kind comment every once in a while as well. But you don't, so you won't. Brain, I treated you with PLENTY of "dignity", only to watch you continue to lie and deceive others about your "achievements" in general and certain Amateur Radio issues in particular. You violated the dignity of all here with lies and tales that were laid bare, only to have you insult us by trying to perpetuate them. No lies concerning my acheivements...(SNIP) Obviously not enough truth for you to substantiate any of it... Not nearly enough concern to substantiate it for you. Brian, it doesn't matter WHAT Stebie is shown, presented, given links to, or gift wrapped as a birthday present. He will STILL call it a "lie" and continue on the personal- insult vendetta of his own. I think he's nuts. Certainly a bad (and deep) mental aberration that has led to sociopathy and severe emotional upset. His newsgroup skin is microns thick and emotional pain threshold is so low it may be off medical charts. ANYTHING in disagreement with his statements and he is immediately in a FIGHT mood, insulting and demeaning those who disagree with him. Rather remarkable in his volatility. Then there's his fixation with male genitalia. It's just not right. That could be just a "male thing." He's probably not "getting any." With the excess of testosterone in his system he has a NEED to BEAT something and that turns out to be everyone that disagrees with him in the slightest. (UNSNIP)...and I do have opinions about amateur radio issues. None of those substantiated by reality either. Not the "reality" that you dwell in. He still hasn't understood that. He's either nuts or getting there faster than he realizes... Perhaps he just feigns all that "outrage" in order to call attention to himself? That's a possibility but unfortunately just as sick. Nurse, heal thyself. He ain't "qualified" to practice medicine without a license! He's gotta get that DOCTORATE in some kind of medicine. Let's see...an Internet diploma mill worked for this "Ace" guy in another thread. Maybe that's close enough? :-) You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks. I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur Radio to be an "attack" on me. You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off. You are easily offended. I think that you wish to be offended. There IS some psychological syndrome like that, but dwelling on his psychosis only results in more and more ANGER of his. He is always angry. Many times he uses fighting words in what could have been a normal conversation. Excess testosterone, for sure. Inability to socialize with others, concentration solely on himself, downsized from the murines, personal family tragedies, early divorce, that's quite a list of "reasons." Gonad the Librarian is a good moniker for him. And this posting I make will just inflame him more...tsk, tsk. Well, that's how it goes... Maybe he needs to just go and check in. That would be wise. Meanwhile, he is busy rafting on denial, dat river in someplace. bit bit |
From: "an old friend" on Sat 30 Jul 2005 11:20
K4YZ wrote: wrote: Snarly Stebie doesn't do much else in this newsgroup but boast generalities of a non-specific nature while generally insulting everyone who doesn't agree with him. Untrue, but then when has "truth" been your suit, Lennie? entirely true Quod erat demonstrandum...Latin for "it is as demonstrated." Stebie has to begin by snarling and hurling epithets. :-) He has changed his boasting so many times that it is difficult to know what he has actually done or experienced. I haven't been boasting. sure have been boasting about your achivements sayning they are better than Lenn without of course saying what they are [just one N in the short form of my given name...:-) ] Stebie has been "IN" those now-famous "seven hostile actions." Actually, he has been IN military service WHILE those occurred. He has NO presentable proof that he was "IN" those ("in" as being a participant in). That's a good "little white lie" kind of boast, but a BOAST nonetheless. He has BOASTED of his physical prowess in civilian life (flying general aviation aircraft, flying hang-gliders, roller-blading, marching with heavy pack, etc.) while supposedly pulling in medical pension from an early release from service, that supposedly due to an "accident." [accident unspecified] Now, it stands to reason that if one can do all those things as a civilian, he is quite physically capable of completing his "20" (years)...or he is DEFRAUDING the United States government. Granted, the medical examination for a private pilot license is minimal, but a job as a nurse (licensed practical version) requires physical ability to move patients whether in a ward or in the "ER." On the otherhand this post I am replying to is over 300 lines long. So? Now you are trying to ditate how people may express themselves Stebie's whole point in BEING here seems to be his need to SUBJUGATE OTHERS. He LIKES pushing people around plus "having fun" denigrating anyone he feels is "too weak" to reply or has some kind of disadvantage. He wants to make a "name" for himself. In that, he has, but the kind of name he's gotten isn't a good one...:-) Subjugation is a common technique of non-commissioned officers. While that works in recruit depots, it is ten kinds of no-no when used in social or semi-social groups. Snarly Stebie's version of "truth" is whatever he wants to claim on any particular day. He has NO references on any of it. Some examples: Stebie would challenge "call the VA and they can tell you" [all about Stebie's military record] Untrue. You at one time doubted my having served at all. The VA CAN varify that information. You refused, of course...Lot's of excuses...Nothing new there... No Stevie the people who do that but only to a small degree is USAREC in St.Louis MO But they can't verify a claim that you will make spefic enough to even ask about Poor Stebie did a bit of BLUFFING with that "call the VA" claim. One just cannot get such information unless one is in a position such as the personnel or security department of a business. Even so, the information is minimal. There's a couple of public laws on that subject for the armchair lawyers but it is of no matter. One CAN download a standard form from NARA's St. Louis website and send it in by mail. That's still no guarantee that any information WILL be returned nor the extent of that information. At best, one MIGHT get a copy of a DD214 (release from active duty) or other one-page document provided one can supply a social security number, both the requestor's and the person's SSN being queried. In my case, it would be BOTH my ASN and my SSN before they would release anything. [the changeover from service branch specific serial numbers to social security numbers for all branch members began in the 1960s] Big snip In the beginning of Stebie's tirades he mentioned a Medical Discharge that cut his marine career to 18 years (rather than a full 20). He then made that an "Honorable" instead of a medical discharge; if he had gotten that discharge some 5 years before (his alleged time was 1974 to 1992), why would he not have said "honorable" in the beginning? That's all archived, BTW. Well...MOST of it is archived. You've taken some literary license with what was said, but I am sure it's much more colorful in your mind that way. and you admit to this or not? Stebie NEVER admits to anything he is challenged on. :-) What I've written is FROM his own postings in here. Whether or not Google got ALL the archives from DejaNews since 1998 is unknown. It is beside the point, really, one can't spend the whole of one's computer-modem activity re-arguing and re-re- arguing old, old arguments which some sore loser (Stebie) failed to win. Stebie NEVER DOES ANYTHING WRONG in here. :-) Stebie claimed to have been in "seven hostile actions" during his military career, but it seems he is spinning that into the USMC being involved in those...while he was in it. He has no proof at all shown in here that HE was IN any of those hostile actions. That's in newer archives. And we won't discuss any of them. then they are claims without proof, or BYS Stevie lies Stebie is just doing his BLUFFING thing as I remarked on. It works with some people who read some unspecific generalities and half-truths. I've seen others do it elsewhere much better than Stebie, years ago. In fact, with two decades of experience in computer-modem communications (BBSs first, then the Internet), I've seen a LOT of variations on a few themes of boasting and bluffing. [21 years in December of this year] Just like you harrangue Dave Heil over his service in the State Department (all of it fact-based and verifyable), I shant give you the pleasure. You can go ahead and insist "it didn't happen" based upon my refusal to tell you the details, if you care to, but ti still doesn't make it any less factual. just appling YOUR OWN STANDARDS Stevie [Stebie is starting to get stressed, he is making typos and using bad punctuation...:-) ] Tsk, tsk, tsk. In my personal case, I've got reproducible documents (including a reduced size DD214 that I carry for fun in my wallet), photographs (with mimeoed SigC legends on the back), some of the mimeographed order sheets received in three years (xerographed since the acidic paper would make them self- destruct if handled...and copied courtesy of the Burbank, CA, Social Security office), communications with those who were THERE in my unit doing the same work I did, one of whom has had an amateur extra license for a long time. What is worse, I've tried to send a digitized copy of my first First 'Phone license to Stebie and HE REFUSED to accept it. :-) It would seem that Stebie ONLY accepts things that prove HIS case. That's consistent with his newsgroup "battle plan" (or whatever it is for trying to win message points) of MAKING others accept HIS unspecific general claims. Stebie has claimed "working in military radio communications" but isn't at all familiar with the very common (quarter million R/T units made and operational) SINCGARS...(SNIP) Lennie, I guess it's silly to point out to you that SINCGARS is NOT the end-all of radio communications in the Armed Forces. but you know nothing of the system where I a 54E know a afair about them, without having served a commo related MOS. make it very dubious The SINCGARS "family" of R/Ts is now a QUARTER MILLION in number of supplied and operational small-unit radios used by ALL branches (USCG use unknown), primarily for land and land-air tactical communications. They began operational life in 1989, first in Korea. Designed and made by ITT, Fort Wayne, IN, (other production by General Dynamics Land Division now disbanded and reorganized), a QUARTER MILLION radio sets of the same type exceeds every other U.S. military radio set/system in number. Ever. Stebie had five years of his service life to see one, yet is "unfamiliar" with it. [the USMC does indeed use it, is using it now in Iraq and Afghanistan, as is the USA] For that matter, Stebie cannot recall/remember/mention ANY nomenclature of any military radio except some MARS equipment, despite 18 years claimed as a military radio whiz-bang. That's NOT consistent with ANY radio-interested person. [Stebie is unfamiliar with the HF-band AN/PRC-104 manpack in service since 1986 with land forces...nice little "QRP" rig designed and made by Hughes Aircraft Ground systems, operational with USMC and USA] Your 3000th telling of yet another SINCGARS story does not make it any more valuable than any other communications resource...Then, now or in the future. Tsk, tsk. A QUARTER MILLION radio sets is not "significant?" How about a type that has selectable encrypted voice plus selectable frequency hopping...both features making it quite difficult to DF, almost impossible (in the field) to decrypt? It's been in operational use for 16 years and will be (eventually, but soon now) supplanted by the AN/PRC-150 by Harris Corporation. Tsk, only in Stebieworld (at the signpost up ahead) is a foot soldier's secure communication means "insignificant!" :-) At best, Stebie's claims are only for an "Assistant" NCOIC position at a MARS station in Okinawa in the 1980s. MARS stations are NOT a regular part of any service branch radio communications...are, at best, a sort of special services like operation where they MIGHT be used for regular comms in case of catastrophic happenings to the Defense Communication System (DCS). But...but...but...LENNIE! YOU are the one who made the big deal about who runs MARS, etc etc even when it wasn't an issue! more stevie lies True enough, Mark. Poor Stebie made a reply to Hans Brakob writing "Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio." Brian Burke then picked up on that and chided him. Stebie became outraged and tried three ways from Sunday to rationalize it. I went and looked for the DoD directive on MARS, found it, posted the link, included a short-form history of how MARS came to be (it was 'born' in the U.S. Army before WW2). MARS IS NOT amateur radio but a MILITARY radio service, an auxilliary or "affiliate" (the A in MARS), operates OUTSIDE the U.S. ham bands, has its own callsigns. Amateurs are volunteers for MARS activities. The Army wanted amateur participation in the early radio days prior to WW2 in order to improve its own radio abilities...which were improved, indeed leap-frogged in technology advancement, by commercial firms just prior to the U.S. involvement in WW2. NONE of the pre- or post WW2 military radio communications networks USED MARS for everyday tactical radio comms. During the old Vietnam War times ('Nam ended 30 years ago), it was a definite morale-booster for personal communications to "stateside." There's no need of such morale-boosting service now with the much-improved worldwide military communications such as the DSN and satellite relay. MARS has shifted its focus to become a tertiary communications system in case of catastrophic events for the military but is now active as a liason service to tie together other government communications. That's in very recent archives. Worse yet, it took months for Stebie to acknowledge that the Department of Defense directs MARS, even when given the link to the directive itself available on the Internet at the DoD website. you claimed otherwise Stebie claimed that otherwise. :-) I doubt that Stebie EVER went to the DoD website to find the directive document. Anyone can. It isn't "classified." It was never in question. Lennie is uttering a blatant falsehood every time he repeats this. Lying IS Lennie's forte. This is why Lennie H doesn't get the respect and admiration he THINKS he deserves... Stevie just goes and on dening his own words True enough, Mark. I think Stebie has actual ATTACKS within his own mind where little voices in his head scream "they LIE, they LIE, they LIE!" :-) TRUTH is its own "admiration." TRUTH is "respectable." A continual repetition of "LIE, LIE, LIE" in the face of proof that anyone can view is a sickness on Stebie's part. And the darned ironic thing is that I'm the one who usually jabs Lennie, yet Lennie engages in all these "persoanl insult" diatribes at almost everyone... you must be reading a different Usenet than I am Stevie or be lying or delusional Mark, I'd pick DELUSIONAL. Stebie's flipped out, gone bananas, wigged out (he looks like he's ready for a hairpiece anyway). "The truth is out there..." which is still true even if "X-Files" ceased production. :-) The problem is you, Lennie, and just a few other ner-do-wells who seem to think that what you do is "constructive". yes we think it is constructive to look behind the curtain at the real world That would disturb Stebie's fantasy. He wants the nicely-ordered military-style discipline he is no longer a part of...(SNIP) Wrong. right You can't handle to turth The delusional can only recognize the "truth" existing in their fantasy. They have great difficulty with reality, therefore cling mightily to their fantasy "truths." (UNSNIP)...one where everything is explained and laid-out, no room for deviation from the precise order of things. He can fit into that. However, if the environment changes, he gets very upset and angry. He can't handle disagreements with his opinions, tries to defend himself (no need in normal discussion not about a person) by issuing a series of personal insults directed at his perceived "accuser." Even MORE ironic that I have never addressed you (or anyone) as the "accuser"...that would be a LennieTerm. One that helps to establish "victim status" more Steve evasion, and another lie you have called me on accusing you Stebie attempted some wordplay in there, made like a "victim" of a "false charge." :-) It doesn't work but he doesn't realize it yet. :-) Stebie constantly ACCUSES certain others of heinous things like "LYING!" even though such things are truth. He can no longer separate right from wrong, let alone emerge from fantasy into reality. There is, nor has there ever been, a SINGLE "correct" way of doing things in amateur radio. There's been ONE constant in Amatuer Radio... The license. then why don't and why have you never treated other license holder with any respect? Mark, you just don't fit Stebie's fantasyworld concepts. :-) [note that Stebie misspelled "amateur" as "Amatuer" again, something that is common with his upset/stressed state...] To Stebie, ham radio is ALL about the LICENSE! Not the fun of communicating, not the camaraderie of white male club- house fun, not the interest in the radio hardware, it's the LICENSE! That makes Stebie a SOMEBODY! He's "federally- authorized!" Wow. What a concept! even if I granted you abuse of Lenn on that issue it doesn't explian your treatment of Myself of Todd and of Brain Brian Burke, that is...but you are right, Mark, his comments ARE hypocritical. It's his "PCTA extra Double Standard" hypocrisy operational again...sigh. The one you don't have...The one you CAN'T get. More Libel Steve the second half of the statement is liekly not true and you should know it is likely not true You are right again, Mark. But Stebie is hot and fired-up on his ATTACK mode again...as if any U.S. amateur radio class license is "impossible for me to get." :-) Amateur radio is NOT a military...(SNIP) Your reality is slipping again, Lennie... no he is trying to guess at the nature of your twisted mind No guessing...he's a bit nuts. I was making a comment that U.S. amateur radio is NOT any sort of military service. It isn't. It is a "service" insofar as a service of the government to licensees. The word "service" all throughout Title 47 C.F.R. is as a regulatory term denoting a type and kind of radio use/activity in a particular Part. You really stretch to make these up, don't you..?!?! not at all you seem to act like a drill sgt (whatever the fool marines call the army calls em that), and expect the rest of us are going to fall in Stebie stormed into this newsgroup long ago acting like "super- marine," a regular DILL Sergeant (my term), he of the pursed lips (puckered from too much dill and vinegar) and tried to make all of us who disagreed with him "drop and give me ten!" Along the way his DILL Sergeant campaign hat got all askew and he wound up barking orders to a bunch of blank walls. But, the old rank-status-privilege class consciousness of the old six-class license system suits the ordered, disciplined military psyche. You keep mentioning "military psyche" along with your 1950's-era radio stories, Lennie... yes he does. your point? Actually, Mark, I've mentioned 1960s radio, 1970s radio, 1980s radio, 1990s radio, 2000s radio all along. Stebie tried to MISDIRECT into "blaming his accuser" again. :-) Poor guy still hasn't been able to separate civilian life from military life. He still thinks he is SOME kind of national service through his "amatuer" [sic] radio license. Radio is radio. No, it's not. Not in the APPLICATION. Radio is NOT radio Stevie? my, my you do need your meds He won't take them, Mark. :-) He still thinks that his DILL Sergeant barking can get all those electrons, fields, and waves to do Stebie's bidding. Tsk. The only reason there is licensing in amateur radio is as a regulatory tool for the government, in this case the FCC. All nations do that. Unfortunately, some take this "amatuer" [sic] radio thing as a LIFESTYLE and magnify it far beyond what it is...a hobby. This forum is about AMATEUR RADIO...Not Army, or PLMRS, or GMRS, etc etc etc. then why don't you write about Amateur Radio once and awhile He's having too much fun gabbling and boasting about MARS and CAP and the murines and stuff where he was a SOMEBODY! :-) Big snip. One MUST look at what other radio services are doing. Firstly, amateurs must co-exist in the EM spectrum with all other radio services. We must co-exist in that we do not cause any disruption of service to OTHER radio services. What goes on inside those band edges is a whole different story. IOW we should ignore the technolgies around us and focus on what? Morse Coded OOK CW? Absolutely! Everyone march to the SAME drumbeat! Order! Discipline! Cherish the tradition! Status the Quo! Secondly, other radio services, having (usually) more flexibility in mode type use, can offer insight into possible new methods of communications. But...but...but...LENNIE! YOU are the one who keeps yelling "IT'S JUST A HOBBY!" Where does the FUN of operating radios that are software defined and require almost NO human interaction to make work go...?!?! I on't particular want to work that hard just to make the RADIO go, Id rather spend my time and effort dealing with people at the other end It could be that Stebie wants SDR. That's an acronym for Soft-head Defined Radio. :-) Thirdly, closing off minds to what happens elsewhere and claiming it is "for the good of amateur radio" is a simple cop-out, an excuse NOT to learn, investigate, to enquire about new things, new possibilities; it's a rationale for being LAZY. Lennie...YOU keep repeating that threadbare and untruthful rant over and over, and it's no more true today than when you first sprout it. you operate that way, Jim N2EY is politer about but operates that way True enough. Stebie thinks I am "growing" opinions because they "sprout?" :-) He's a case...mental case growing worse. Terribly fascinating to watch his psychosis develop over the years, much better than classroom learning in psychology. His blabberings are more and more black-and-white, no shades of gray. Emotionally more volatile than a vial of nitroglycerine. :-) nit pik |
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