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Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:
As of 13 Sep 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention tabulation: ALL to Date Since FR Notice -------------- --------------- Grand Total 2288 318 Indeterminate (note 1) 134 25 Value for Percentages 2154 293 Against NPRM (note 2) 645 [29.94%] 92 [31.40%] For NPRM (note 3) 1180 [54.78%] 146 [49.83%] Test Extra Only (note 4) 329 [15.27%] 55 [18.77%] Notes: Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard. It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here. Fixed-font spacing used throughout. 1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke" or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen submission, and six who were commenting on another matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations. 2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST the NPRM and against dropping any code testing. 3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself (first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for." 4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept eliminating the code test for other classes. Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates. Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made, like it or not. |
I'm just not "in the know". Why would or would not the FCC consider all
comments, and what is an "FR Notice"? To be sure of being heard, can we repost what we posted prior to the FR Notice? Jim wrote in message ups.com... Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143: As of 13 Sep 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention tabulation: ALL to Date Since FR Notice |
RST Engineering wrote: I'm just not "in the know". Why would or would not the FCC consider all comments, and what is an "FR Notice"? To be sure of being heard, can we repost what we posted prior to the FR Notice? no one is truely in the know here. I would say you could resend just in case You might mention that the dates issue to sure Hopefully Len would move such a dub out of the sole previous to publishing stats, and you might add more to flesh out your remarks OTOH I believe the FCC will not realy discount any coment made before formal publication Jim wrote in message ups.com... Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143: As of 13 Sep 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention tabulation: ALL to Date Since FR Notice |
From: RST Engineering on Sep 14, 2:25 pm
I'm just not "in the know". Why would or would not the FCC consider all comments, and what is an "FR Notice"? To be sure of being heard, can we repost what we posted prior to the FR Notice? "FR Notice" is Federal Register Notice. All announcements, news, notices, laws enacted, etc., by any federal agency is printed in there...every working day by the Government Printing Office (GPO). If you look at the lower part of the Title of NPRM 05-143 you will see that the "Comment period begins when printed in the Federal Register" and then extends until N number of days after that notice. 60 days for Comments and 75 days for Replies to Comments. The first filed comment on WT Docket 05-235 appeared on 20 July. The NPRM itself was inserted by the FCC on 21 July but they moved it to 15 July the next day. You can see the time-stamp of the ECFS on the 15 July filing (which is larger in file size than the direct-downloadable NPRM PDF file version because it is a scanned paper image). The Notice on NPRM 05-143 did not appear in the Federal Register until 31 August. When it did, the Notice added the official cutoff date of Comments as 31 October with cutoff of Replies to Comments as 14 November. The period between 15 July and 31 August is roughly six weeks. So, for six weeks there's about 2000 Comments filed which were done BEFORE the Notice in the Federal Register. You are free to post anything you want in the ECFS. If the FCC doesn't like it for any reason, then they probably won't let it be on the ECFS. About half of the "Indeterminates" are so categorized because they go into some kind of argument/diatribe NOT directly attributable to the NPRM; the NPRM is ONLY about the elimination or retention of the code test. Some individuals have posted MORE than once such as surname Garcell with over 14 "For" Comments and surname Sparks with over 5 "Against" Comments. I don't know what the FCC will do with those. I put duplicates in the "Indeterminate" category because all I'm doing is getting some insight on the opinions of all those who Comment. So far, in the first two months of Comment, the number of filings exceed all of those posted on WT Docket 98-143 on Restructuring (roughly 10 months total from release of that NPRM and official - extended twice - cutoff date of 15 Jan 99). If elimination goes through as an R&O it will be of greater impact on the immediate future of United States amateur radio than did R&O 99-412 on restructuring. |
Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:
As of 15 Sep 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention tabulation: ALL to Date Since FR Notice -------------- --------------- Grand Total 2319 348 Indeterminate (note 1) 137 28 Value for Percentages 2182 320 Against NPRM (note 2) 653 [29.93%] 99 [30.94%] For NPRM (note 3) 1193 [54.67%] 159 [49.69%] Test Extra Only (note 4) 336 [15.40%] 62 [19.38%] Notes: Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard. It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here. Fixed-font spacing used throughout. 1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke" or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen submission, and six who were commenting on another matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations. 2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST the NPRM and against dropping any code testing. 3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself (first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for." 4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept eliminating the code test for other classes. Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates. Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made, like it or not. |
Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:
As of 16 Sep 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention tabulation: ALL to Date Since FR Notice -------------- --------------- Grand Total 2321 350 Indeterminate (note 1) 138 29 Value for Percentages 2183 321 Against NPRM (note 2) 653 [29.91%] 99 [30.84%] For NPRM (note 3) 1194 [54.70%] 160 [49.84%] Test Extra Only (note 4) 336 [15.39%] 62 [19.31%] The ECFS did not list any filings for 16 Sep 05 as of Noon EDT on 17 Sep 05. The above includes two added filings for 15 Sep 05. Notes: Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard. It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here. Fixed-font spacing used throughout. 1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke" or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen submission, and six who were commenting on another matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations. 2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST the NPRM and against dropping any code testing. 3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself (first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for." 4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept eliminating the code test for other classes. Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates. Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made, like it or not. |
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/comsrch_v2.cgi
That gets you to the fill-form at the FCC for finding filings on dockets and for specific dates. You have only to put in "05-235" without the quotes in the upper left block and the dates (in the stated format) in the "from-to" blocks. You can also get there from the FCC home page through the general search block and follow the links to reach the same page. There's been over 2300 filings so far since 15 July 2005; happy reading! :-) |
I'll add that you can compare the filings on 98-143
("restructuring") with 05-235 by just entering "98-143" (without quote marks) in the upper left block. Leaving all the date blocks blank will return ALL filings on a given proceding. At the bottom of the Results display you can select numeric groups (100 per display at these numeric totals). |
Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Opinions on NPRM 05-143:
As of 19 Sep 05, WT Docket 05-235 Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention tabulation: ALL to Date Since FR Notice -------------- --------------- Grand Total 2357 386 Indeterminate (note 1) 141 32 Value for Percentages 2216 350 Against NPRM (note 2) 670 [30.23%] 116 [32.77%] For NPRM (note 3) 1209 [54.56%] 175 [49.44%] Test Extra Only (note 4) 337 [15.21%] 63 [17.80%] Notes: Notice of NPRM 05-143 appeared in Federal Register for 31 August and established official end of Comments as 31 October 2005 and official end of Replies to Comments as 14 November 2005. The left column indicates totals for ALL dates. Right column indicates all totals beginning 31 August 2005 to day of this scorecard. It is unknown whether or not the FCC will consider Comments entered prior to 31 August 2005, hence the two column format used here. Fixed-font spacing used throughout. 1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke" or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to do with the NPRM, individuals not understanding the scope and purpose of the NPRM, one foreign citizen submission, and six who were commenting on another matter having nothing to do with amateur radio regulations. 2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST the NPRM and against dropping any code testing. 3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test. NPRM itself (first docket document on 15 July) is counted as a "for." 4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept eliminating the code test for other classes. Percentages are calculated from Grand Total less Indeterminates. Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being made, like it or not. |
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