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Cmd Buzz Corey wrote in message You obviously have a reading comprehension problem. Notice it states that the hams will listen for emergency traffic on the FRS frequencies and FRS will be the link to the ham radio network. Let me see now... I have a reading comprehension problem... Glad you finally recognize that, it's a first step. There are MILLIONS of FRS users compared to 675,000 couch potatoes. What makes you think that the proposal for a National SOS Radio Network is going to make any changes to Amateur Radio Service response to national disasters? So how is someone with an FRS unit going to be able to communicate with someone more than a mile away, much less in another state or across the country? The idea is that hams, using FRS units can communicte with other locals with FRS units and then put traffic into the ham radio traffic emergency system. APPARENTLY, AMATEUR SERVICE FAILED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF A NATIONAL RESPONSE TO DISASTER COMMUNICATIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE ---THAT'S WHY FRS IS GOING TO TAKE THE PLACE OF THE AMATEUR SERVICE! Oh really? The following sure doesn't indicate that. FRS will not take the place of the amateur radio service no matter how bad you would wish it so. As usual, ham radio operators help sustain wide-ranging relief efforts By Andrea Kelly ARIZONA DAILY STAR When all else fails, it's ham radio to the rescue. Across Arizona, ham radio operators are helping sustain Hurricane Katrina relief efforts by helping storm-torn communities communicate with rescue workers and family across the country. This is not a first. Ham radio operators come out of the woodwork during disasters around the world, even transmitting in Morse code if language barriers pop up, said Mike Swiader, president of the amateur Superstition Radio Club in Mesa. Ham radio operators have contributed to emergency communication efforts since World War II, Swiader said, and were crucial in post-9/11 emergency communications, as well as during the Asian tsunami last holiday season. Ham radios work when other communication systems are down because they're powered by solar energy, batteries or generators rather than the usual power sources. The messages are passed from radio to radio until they get to the one they are directed to, so radios don't need to be near each other to receive signals, like regular AM/FM radio signals. "We've been involved in passing traffic to and from the Louisiana and Mississippi area," said Tom Fagan, a leader of the Arizona ham radio operators organization. "Whatever needs to come in and go out, we're doing." When Arizona's ham operators - there are about 16,000 of them - get messages from the hurricane area, they send them along to agencies like the American Red Cross and the Salvation Army in the Southeastern region of the country. "We're the link," Fagan said. Because communications within a disaster area are often jumbled, Swiader said, it's frequently easier for someone there to contact an operator in someplace like Arizona, who can then relay the message back to a recipient in the disaster area. "Sometimes it's easier to be heard that way," he said. More than 30 ham radio operators from Arizona have already headed toward the disaster area, hoping to assist relief efforts and give emergency workers a way to communicate with each other, as well as assisting searches for missing persons. "They're moving in when they're allowed by American Red Cross and Salvation Army," said Ned Stearns, a Phoenix ham operator and vice director of the American Radio Relay League, the national organization for ham operators. In fact, the ham operators plan to compile a list of people they can determine as missing, deceased, alive or unknown, based on information transmitted over the ham signals. To find out about people in the area, visit www.satern.org and fill out the health and welfare information request for the person you are trying to find. This information will be sent through the Salvation Army emergency radio network. More From The Huntsville Times | Subscribe To The Huntsville Times Ham radio operators are helping from afar Sunday, September 11, 2005 By DONNA FORK For the Times But sometimes, even the airwaves can be shut down They also serve who listen and wait. Huntsville amateur radio operator Douglas Hilton and other "hams" in North Alabama are helping victims of Hurricane Katrina by relaying messages between families, officials and each other. Lately, Hilton's been spending most of his spare time in his "ham shack" listening to calls for assistance. The systems analyst for Intergraph Corp. is one of thousands of amateur radio operators who help people during emergencies. Hilton is unusual in the ham radio world because he wears three hats: He is an amateur operator; a member of the Alabama State Defense Force, heading the Communications Platoon for North Alabama; and he's also a military communicator authorized to use the Military Affiliate Radio System. His connection to the military (although he is a civilian) gives him access to additional radio frequencies most amateurs can't access. He has been a ham radio operator for 42 years; his father had him build a crystal radio when he was 7 years old, and he got his ham license as a teenager. But he wasn't all that active until after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. "That hit me right between the eyes," he recalled, and he began to get back into "hamming." Now Hilton averages about 100 hours a month on the airwaves and takes countless courses and certifications. He noted that amateur radio operators are "amateurs only in that we're not paid." In return for service "the government gives us frequencies." Hilton said the North Alabama ham community is large. "The astronauts are all ham radio operators," he said, noting that astronaut Owen Garriott "was the first ham in space." Hilton''s "ham shack" is not really a shack at all. It is located in a formal dining room - complete with crystal chandelier. It includes six radios and two computers. "You don't need six, but don't tell my wife, please," Hilton said as his wife, Diane, laughed. She recently obtained her "technician class" license, which is the entry-level license for ham radio operators. The next is "general class." The highest, which Hilton has, is "amateur extra." Anyone can be an amateur radio operator, Hilton said. There is no age limit: Hilton knows a local ham who is 18 and another who is 89. It doesn't cost much to be an operator either, he said. A beginner could purchase enough equipment to get started for about $300. Courses are free through one of the local ham radio clubs, of which there are several, including the Huntsville Amateur Radio Club (the Web address is www.harc.net). In addition to six radios, Hilton has two computers: a laptop and a desktop. "The radios are hooked into the computer." With his setup, the Hiltons can talk to other hams as far away as Japan. But for the past two weeks there hasn't been time to chat about matters such as which antennas they like the best. There are emergency frequencies to monitor. At the moment, a critical one is the Salvation Army's emergency frequency, Hilton said. Hilton never knows if it will be a busy night or a quiet one. Recent solar flares have added to the uncertainty because they disrupt communications. Friday, during the late afternoon and early evening, it was unusually quiet. "I'm a little surprised," he said Friday. "I can't believe how dead these bands are." Solar flare It could be a solar flare, or could be something else. "That's the problem, you never know," he said. The waiting, the listening, "it wears you out." But it's worth it when you hear a voice and "you might be the only person who can hear this guy." On Thursday night, when Hilton was expecting problems, reception was fine. He was able to contact two operators in Louisiana. He also heard one Mississippi ham talking to another ham "so at least one is working there." ecause of the Hurricane Katrina disaster, there are thousands of messages piling up, waiting to be delivered by ham radio operators: What will happen when all their radios start working again? People like Hilton will be extremely busy. There are thousands of ham radio operators in Louisiana and Mississippi. When they all get back to the airwaves, it will be quite a challenge to sort out all the messages. But meanwhile, as they waited for the deluge of messages, on Thursday night the Huntsvillians received a call for help from New Mexico. Maura Campbell Kingston of Clovis, N.M., was trying to reach her aunt, 76-year-old Sister Joan Campbell, a nun, of Harvey, La. Kingston called the Salvation Army, which contacted a ham radio operator, who called Hilton. Hilton tried Thursday to reach a radio operator in Louisiana to check on Campbell, but almost all of them were off the air. Finally on Friday night Hilton got through to "KG5YK," who is Robert A. Turner of Elm Grove, La. When Turner's message came through, hams from all over the United States could be heard, eager to talk with him. Helping 'ham brother' The outpouring of sympathy could not be contained: Radio operators from Texas, Indiana and elsewhere all expressed their support for their "ham brother" in Louisiana. "I hope this never happens again," said Turner of the Katrina disaster. "It's been a tough time. ... I'm looking for the right words." He thanked the other hams for their all their help. "You'd do the same for us," the ham from Texas said. Others echoed his sentiments. Turner gave Hilton information about when to call with his "health and welfare message" about Kingston's aunt. Hilton vowed to keep trying to deliver the message "for as long as it takes." But that proved to be unnecessary. Friday night, after calling her aunt repeatedly, Kingston finally reached her by phone. She was still at her home in Harvey. "She was OK," Kingston said in a telephone interview Saturday. "Harvey stayed dry." But the area was without power and Campbell "was sitting in the dark with her flashlight." Later, Kingston called Hilton to thank him. She said he told her: "I'm just doing it because I want to help." Kingston was impressed. "I believe that thing about Southern hospitality." Thursday, September 15, 2005 Ham radio proves to be more than a hobby By Jeannetta Edwards Daily Times Leader When Hurricane Katrina hit, telephone and cell phone communication hit an impasse because of downed lines and towers. But, amateur radio operators did not miss a beat or a transmission. "Before and after the hurricane, this has proven to be the most reliable form of communication," said Randall O'Brien, a retired highway patrolman who has been involved with ham radio operation for 35 years. "People thought when they got cell phones, they didn't need us anymore," said O'Brien, an advanced licensed operator, who often talks to missionaries in South and Central America. According to Denver Baker, Clay County has more than 30 amateur radio operators, but only a small fraction are active. "It's a wonderful hobby," said Baker, whose wife recently received her technician license. The multi-faceted operation includes digital and satellite communication and is enjoyed by all age levels. "This is a good hobby for seniors or for young people," said Baker. By becoming a ham radio operator, which requires taking a test to obtain a license, people can communicate with others anywhere in the world. "The classes for the test are free," said Baker, "and we help you with everything you need to know." According to Baker, who has been enjoying this hobby for the last 10 years, the only investment required is the fee for the test and the purchase of equipment. A handheld transmitter cost around $100. The self-policing group ensures that everyone adheres to the rules and regulations. "We're called amateur radio operators, but there's nothing amateur about it," said O'Brien, who first became interested in electronic at age 13. The group, which also belongs to the American Radio Relay League, meets monthly in West Point. "We have a good bunch of hams in this area," said Baker. "We bring food at our meetings and have a good time." "It's nice, especially for seniors," said Baker. For information on getting involved in ham radio operation, call O'Brien at 494-2898 or Baker at 494-9096. Thursday, September 8, 2005 Ham Radio Operators Offer Help By Beth Hahn Mountain View Telegraph Since Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans last week, several ears in the East Mountains and Estancia Valley have been tuned to amateur short-wave radios. McIntosh resident Ed Brooks said local Ham radio operators are willing to relay messages from the Gulf Coast if needed. "We guys here in the Estancia Valley are just listening," he said. "We haven't had any need for what we can offer." Although they may not be needed yet, Brooks said local Ham radio operators are still listening in to conversations taking place in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama. During the interview with Brooks, his Ham radio was tuned to a conversation involving a Coast Guard helicopter that was rescuing a family from a rooftop in New Orleans with direction from another Ham radio operator. Brooks said similar situations have been broadcast hundreds of times during the past week. "It's been really spotty, but what we've been (hearing) is that it was good fortune that somebody down there had Ham equipment," he said. Daryl Clutter, an Edgewood Ham operator and member of the Salvation Army's shortwave network, said he relayed a message from Ontario to U.S. Coast Guard officials in Washington, D.C., that originated in Louisiana. "It was just the word 'help' spelled out two times," he said. Like Brooks, Clutter said he has stayed close to his Ham radio since Aug. 29. "There's been so much going on," he said. "Every day, something happens." Clutter, a former truck driver who often delivered frozen food to the Gulf Coast, said radio traffic has slowed since the hurricane devastated the region. "You just wonder who all you know, that used to be your customers down there, that are still alive or had the good sense to get out," he said. As amateur radio operators, Clutter said, Ham enthusiasts practice for disasters "every day." "There's only so many cell phone frequencies," he explained. "If the phone system goes down, there's no way ... (one company) could handle all the 60,000 or 70,000 phone calls." Mountainair resident and Ham operator Bob Scupp said the Salvation Army network alone has handled more than 128,000 messages since Aug. 29. Brooks said Ham operators have been relaying messages from residents to volunteers or emergency personnel. Since a large number of National Guard and military personnel have arrived in the area, Brooks said the messages have changed from pleas for help to questions about well-being. Shelters for evacuees are beginning to utilize Ham radios to communicate with other shelters to help families find missing relatives, Brooks said. Rescues are still going on. "There's been instances where they're still finding people, trapped in houses, trapped in buildings or running out of oxygen," said Clutter. "It's just terrible what's going on down there." Clutter and Brooks said they will not offer assistance unless someone requests contact in the Albuquerque area. "We don't want to tie up the frequencies," Brooks said. Clutter and Brooks said they will continue to listen to their Ham radios for messages or relay requests until communications are restored in the Gulf Coast. "We live and breathe this," Clutter said. Published: September 03, 2005 07:18 pm Amateur radio operators provide vital communications support By Teresa Atkerson MCALESTER NEWS-CAPITAL (MCALESTER, Okla.) MCALESTER, Okla. - With more than 10,000 requests for help in finding loved ones, the amateur radio operators in Louisiana are extremely busy. In fact, they are so busy, they have asked people to wait with their requests unless there is an extreme emergency. Ralph Suter, with the Pittsburg County Amateur Radio Club, said they had about a half dozen requests for assistance in locating loved ones in the area devastated by Hurricane Katrina. “The Red Cross funneled the requests for health and welfare,” he explained. Now, the national traffic system is backed up with the requests, he said, because there were so many. There are extreme problems with communications in New Orleans at the present time. Suter explained VHF radio has to have line of sight while amateur radio operators can use lower frequencies that can bounce off or curve to get the message through. “A benefit of amateur radio is you can throw a piece of wire in a tree or up a flagpole. With 12 volts of power, you can operate on a local or even worldwide basis,” he explained. As an example, Suter said recently an amateur radio operator in Louisiana had some kind of problem that he couldn’t get help with after the hurricane. He put out the message, it went through Washington state to Texas and then into Louisiana where the right people were found to help him. Amateur radio operators can also communicate via Morse Code, upload through television or computer or radio to satellite, Suter said. That gives them even more advantages in communication. Jim Russell, president of the PCARC, said amateur radio has been around as long as there has been radio. Even in World War I, amateur radio operators helped with messages in Morse Code, which is something operators today still must learn as part of their licensing process. “We look at it as a hobby,” Suter said. “It’s a resource of individuals because they have an interest to develop the skills to operate radios in various modes. “It’s a resource for trained communicators.” There are forms that must be used when transmitting messages. “When it goes into the system at one point and comes out at the destination, it is exactly the same information, even with the misspelled words,” Suter said. “It’s our responsibility when handling traffic that it comes out exactly as it comes in.” Suter said many of the operators use their radios on a daily basis while others check weekly. When it comes to disasters, there is the Amateur Radio Emergency Service. “It’s not really an organization but it is organized on a national basis for community programs. John Wright, another PCARC member, checks with the Oklahoma Sooner Net and with the Salvation Army’s network, SATERN. After the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 and 9/11, Russell said amateur radio was used extensively. It is also used during and after tornadoes and other natural disasters. Now, the group can work with the Automatic Position Reporting System to help more accurately report severe weather. The group has an annual field day, which is a combination of a exercise and a contest. “We go out and set up radios under adverse conditions to simulate disaster response,” Suter said. “In the past, we’ve started with solar power, using a battery in a car or even a portable generator. “The last time I kept count, we were able to make contacts in 47 states, the Philippines, some in South America and Puerto Rico in a 24-hour period.” Suter pointed out that the word “amateur” is not what people interpret it as. “People interpret it to be an unprofessional group. But while it’s made up of a lot of people for a hobby, it’s not unorganized or unprofessional when dealing with disaster. We have capabilities that public agencies just don’t have,” he said. Members also have to be licensed. The license testing can be done in McAlester now so those wishing to be licensed don’t have to go to Dallas or Oklahoma City as in the past. Teresa Atkerson writes for the McAlester (Okla.) News-Capital. Old Technology Still Needed (Page 1 of 2) Sept. 8, 2005 Overwhelming Charity Joe Carcia, station manager of the American Radio Relay League in Newington, Conn. helps with the disaster relief effort for Hurricane Katrina's victims along the Gulf Coast. (AP) If anything, Katrina has taught us the value of redundancy. The best way to make sure that messages get through is to have standby systems that can take over when others fail. (CBS) There is a store in London dedicated to "appropriate technology." It mostly carries products designed to be used in developing countries where there is a weak communications infrastructure. Sadly, that’s now the case for a large swath of the United States where Hurricane Katrina and its flood waters have wiped out cell phone towers, telephone switching stations, Internet routers and other ground-based communications systems. Even wireless Internet depends on nearby transmitters and receivers on the ground. But amateur radio is working and, according to Allen Pitts of the Amateur Radio Relay League (ARRL), "ham" radio operators from throughout the country are answering the call to provide vital communications links. Satellite phones, a much newer technology, are also coming to the rescue. Pitts acknowledges that cell phones and other technologies "work wonderfully when everything is going right," but "they are very vulnerable when everything is going wrong." Just as with past hurricanes, earthquakes and on September 11th, the ground-based infrastructure, in many cases failed because vital parts of the system were damaged or overwhelmed during the emergency. In other words, when you need them most, those cell phones are of no value. Amateur radio, says Pitts, is not vulnerable to these problems "because each of the radio operators is a complete transmit and reception center unto themselves able to continue going and continue with nothing more than an electrical source, such as a battery or a generator, a radio and piece of wire for an antenna." Listen to audio of Larry Magid's interview with ARRL's Allen Pitts. While base-station radios are larger and require an electrical power source, there are also portable ham radios slightly larger than a pack of cigarettes with a range of about 20 miles, according to Pitts. Pitts says that the next sized radio, about the size of a paperback book, can communicate up to about 50 miles without a repeater while larger systems, "about the size of a desktop computer" can communicate globally. Amateur radio operators are in demand. When I checked the ARRL’s Web site there was a call from the Salvation Army for "10, two-operator Amateur Radio teams for deployment in the U.S. Gulf Coast. Operators must hold at least a General class license. Teams should be fully self sufficient in terms of food, water and lodging and plan to remain in the disaster area for from one to two weeks." Pitts said there was a "lady in Connecticut," who was listening on her amateur radio and happened to hear that there was a woman "who was trapped for four days without food and water." She was able to relay that message, by ham radio, into an operations center that dispatched the fire department. A day later she got a call from the trapped woman’s mother, thanking her for her role in the rescue. Ironically, this comes at a time when amateur radio is struggling for respect and, to some extent, survival. What was once a popular hobby has fallen into somewhat hard times for a variety of reasons, including the fact that the Internet, cheap long distance calling, cell phones and other technologies make the ability to use these two-way radios not quite as compelling as it once was. Also, there is a bit of a rift between some members of the amateur radio community and some parts of the Internet industry over the use of power lines to transmit Internet signals. This technology, which could put power companies into competition with cable and phone companies for broadband service, has been criticized by some ham operators because of possible interference problems. Despite the fact that their origins go back to the early 20th century, hams are hardly low-tech. There are now bridges between ham operators and other technologies including the Internet, cellular phone systems and Internet phones. In fact, long before the Internet became popular, ham operators were using their radio gear to transmit data along with voice and morse code. Also coming to the rescue are satellite phones. These phones - which are much more expensive to buy and use than cell phones - rely on satellites rather than ground equipment to communicate with the phone network. Because satellites are in space, they’re not vulnerable to conditions here on earth. Also, as long as you have a view of the sky, you’re able to communicate. Iridium, which operates "66 low-earth orbiting (LEO), cross-linked satellites and 11 in-orbit spares," says it provides "complete coverage of the earth (including oceans, airways and Polar Regions)." I carried an Iridium phone with me when I traveled to Peru a few years ago. It worked great when I was in the clear such as on a boat in the middle of the Amazon River but, because it requires a line of site view of the sky, it had problems in dense jungle and in cities with tall buildings. Iridium spokesperson Liz DeCastro estimates that there are currently about 10,000 of Iridium's phones being used in the region with orders for about 6,000 more. The company sells through resellers so it doesn’t have exact numbers. DeCastro says that "traffic in the region increased by 3,000 percent" since the storm hit and that the number of subscribers increased by 500 percent. Satellite phones are a lot cheaper to use then when I went to Peru, but they still cost between $1 and $1.25 per minute to use, according to DeCastro. That’s a lot more than domestic cell use, though often cheaper than using U.S. phones when roaming overseas. The phones themselves cost between $1,000 and $1,500 she says. In addition to handling voice calls, satellite phones can also be used for messaging or data, albeit at modem rather than broadband speed. If anything, Katrina has taught us the value of redundancy. The best way to make sure that messages get through is to have standby systems that can take over when others fail. That’s why some news organizations keep manual typewriters around. You never know when that old technology may suddenly become the "appropriate technology." NYNewsday.com Amateur radio operators head to Gulf Coast September 6, 2005, 1:00 AM EDT NEWINGTON, Conn. -- Oscar Fuller only became an amateur radio operator about a year ago, but he knows how valuable his equipment can be in an emergency. So even though he has never responded to a crisis, the American Relay Radio League member is planning to head to the hurricane-ravaged Gulf Coast and see if he can help establish an emergency communication network. "This is a tragic set of circumstances," said Fuller, who recently retired from IBM. "If I can lend a hand, I want to." Fuller and about 14 other members of the Newington-based amateur radio operator network have signed up to join the relief efforts for Hurricane Katrina. The amateur operators _ known as hams _ can often use their equipment to communicate in difficult circumstances. Because the radio equipment operates on many frequencies, is self-contained and portable, it can often work when other communication networks, such as telephones, aren't working. It can never be blocked, which is why operators say it is good in disasters. "When all else fails, ham radios work," said Betsy Doane of Shelton, who oversees the 2,500 members of the league in Connecticut. David Patton, an official with the radio group, said as many as 750 volunteers may be needed. The Connecticut volunteers are going to help provide communication support for more than 200 American Red Cross Shelters in Mississippi, Alabama and the Florida panhandle. "There are limited resources to an overwhelming disaster," said Allen Pitts, public relations manager for the radio league. "So there is not a ham on every corner. The hams are put where they are needed most of all, in emergency traffic or for saving lives." Dennis Motschenbacher of Colchester was among the first volunteers to say he would go. He spent Sunday shopping for supplies and getting ready for the 18-hour, 1,100 mile drive to Montgomery, Ala., where he will be dispatched to a shelter. "Everything I need, I'm bringing," he said. "There won't be any Radio Shack to go to." The 57-year-old has been a ham for more than 40 years. He has operated his radio from places as far as East Timor and the Balkans. The hardest part will be "seeing people in this troubled state _ smelly, sick, depressed, angry. And no matter what any of us do, it won't be enough for all of them." NBC Headline News - Top Stories Ham Radio Operators Pitch In To Hurricane Katrina Relief Effort General Interest 09/07/2005 With communications out all over New Orleans and the Gulf Coast, the professionals are turning to amateurs to be their ears to what's going on in the areas devastated by Hurricane Katrina. Local operators say they've been in touch with people in and around New Orleans since the beginning of the ordeal. Ed McLaughlin, of Kennewick, says in the days that followed the disaster, he was able to help a family in Medford, Ore., get an update on how their relatives were. He's provided similar contact for a family in Chicago. The reason-- ham radio, which is able to get in places that have no other means for communication when land-based infrastructure fails. Ham radio has been such a success during these recent days that FEMA and the Red Cross are now using it as their primary mode for communication until other modes of communication are restored. News-Leader.com Springfield Mo. Ham radio helps close communication gap Nixa man relayed message from president to New Orleans' mayor. Joe Hargis works on his amateur radio in his home in Nixa. Hargis helped rescue an elderly woman by notifying someone who could contact rescue workers via radio. By Sarah Overstreet News-Leader If you've been unsuccessfully trying to get information about someone living in Hurricane Katrina's region of havoc, here's an avenue you may not have considered: local ham radio operators. While cell phones rely on towers and traditional telephones rely on intact land lines, ham radios transmit from radio to radio, bouncing waves off the ionosphere in the upper atmosphere far above the Earth's tantrums. They can run off batteries, generators and sometimes even the sun. Two Ozarks amateur ham radio groups - the Nixa Amateur Radio Club and the Christian County ARES (Amateur Radio Emergency Services) - have been relaying messages from people all over the world to those whose communication has been cut off by Katrina. David Beckler, a ham radio operator from Nixa, even relayed a message Tuesday from the director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency in Texas to New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin. "He had a message from President Bush to the mayor of the city of New Orleans," says Beckler, a New Orleans native who moved to Nixa six years ago. Since the message was an emergency communication, the dispatch needed to go through the net control station on an emergency frequency, Beckler said. He knew it was important, because the ham operator had said, "break, break, break," which requires all other communications to yield and give that one priority. "The net control station or other stations on this frequency could not hear this message," Beckler says. Beckler contacted the net control station, and people there asked him to contact the sending ham operator and relay the message back to that operator. "That's when he told me it was from President Bush." Joe Hargis, another Nixa ham club member, also helped with an urgent message. "I was monitoring the SATERN network (Salvation Army Team Emergency Radio Network)," said Hargis, a retired elementary schoolteacher. "A person called in with a piece of emergency traffic and the (receiving) person could not hear him. He said, 'Is there anyone on the frequency who can copy this?' I broke in and told him I could hear it fine." Hargis relayed the message back to SATERN, and the operator there could hear Hargis well. "It was a 90-year-old woman and her elderly neighbors. They were afraid to leave their home because of the unrest in the neighborhood, things that were going on, and they needed assistance to be evacuated. They were running low on medicine, and one was running out of her oxygen supply." Nixa ham club member Rod Kittleman says their members helped save the lives of a couple in New Orleans. "A weak, disabled elderly couple were trapped in their attic. Their phone worked, but they couldn't get through to local authorities," the KADI radio program manager explains. Too weak to break through their roof so emergency personnel could find them, the couple called their daughter in this area. She contacted the Nixa club, which relayed the message to a local ham operator who is licensed to operate on emergency frequencies. "He got through to authorities in New Orleans over the radio, and they were rescued. (The ham operator) relayed the message back to their daughter. That's the reward we live for." FRS will in no way supplant the ham radio service, no matter how bad you might like to see that happen. |
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The future of the National Traffic System
http://www.eham.net/articles/12198 [snip] For those of you who may not know, the National Traffic System (NTS) consists of a carefully choreographed collection of section, region, and area nets designed to relay messages throughout the US. In a sense it's the second "R" in ARRL. NTS has a long and honorable history and has some of the best operators in the world as its membership. The recent hurricane season has raised serious doubts for me about the role that NTS plays in the current ham-radio environment. I did not hear a single health-and-welfare message during the disasters. In bygone times, NTS would have been buzzing with activity. [snip] |
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I did not hear a single health-and-welfare message during the disasters. In bygone times, NTS would have been buzzing with activity. [snip] Try turning your receiver on next time, I heard lots of H&W traffic during Katrina and Rita. |
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![]() "TOM" wrote in message ... To continue the thread... 'ARRL Publishing Empire LLC' looses again and Ham radio operator couch potatoes watch TV... so...? WTF else is new with the price of tea in China...? Heck, I was just listening to the HWN on 14.325 and some jerk was on there playing music! So much for ham radio being a public service asset. |
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Cmd Buzz Corey wrote in message ... TOM wrote: To continue the thread... 'ARRL Publishing Empire LLC' looses again and Ham radio operator couch potatoes watch TV... http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/10/prweb293047.htm [snip] HARTFORD, CT (PRWEB) Oct 6, 2005 - In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, it's become clear that a major contributing factor to the tragic loss of life was the near total breakdown of communication systems. Once electricity, telephone, and cell phone services failed, people were unable to let rescuers know of their dire situations -- and died as a result. What could be a simple, instant, and virtually zero-cost solution? "Establish a National SOS Radio Network (www.NationalSOS.com)," says Eric Knight, CEO of UP Aerospace, Inc. (www.upaerospace.com). "There are millions of 'Family Radio Service' or 'FRS' radios already in use by the public for camping, boating, and hiking, and there are 675,000 licensed ham radio operators in America -- people renown and prepared for emergency communications. The output frequencies of FRS radios are easily received by the radio gear ham radio operators use daily. That's the magic link in this emergency communication strategy." Knight went on to say, "The best part of a National SOS Radio Network is that it wouldn't require new laws or any new legislation whatsoever. It could go into effect, today. Once the ham radio community is made aware to listen for the public's emergency broadcasts on an FRS frequency, the national network will be up and running. It's as simple as that." [snip] So... it will be the FRS that will respond to the needs of a national frequency for emergency communications and not the amateur community---lets see you blame that on the loss of telegraphy. TOM You obviously have a reading comprehension problem. Notice it states that the hams will listen for emergency traffic on the FRS frequencies and FRS will be the link to the ham radio network. Let me see now... I have a reading comprehension problem... There are MILLIONS of FRS users compared to 675,000 couch potatoes. What makes you think that the proposal for a National SOS Radio Network is going to make any changes to Amateur Radio Service response to national disasters? APPARENTLY, AMATEUR SERVICE FAILED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF A NATIONAL RESPONSE TO DISASTER COMMUNICATIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE---THAT'S WHY FRS IS GOING TO TAKE THE PLACE OF THE AMATEUR SERVICE! And millions more cell phone users. Let the cell phone users make up the emergency network, eh? - Mike KB3EIA - |
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![]() Mike Coslo wrote: Ernie wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote in message ... cut Let me see now... I have a reading comprehension problem... There are MILLIONS of FRS users compared to 675,000 couch potatoes. What makes you think that the proposal for a National SOS Radio Network is going to make any changes to Amateur Radio Service response to national disasters? APPARENTLY, AMATEUR SERVICE FAILED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF A NATIONAL RESPONSE TO DISASTER COMMUNICATIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE---THAT'S WHY FRS IS GOING TO TAKE THE PLACE OF THE AMATEUR SERVICE! And millions more cell phone users. Let the cell phone users make up the emergency network, eh? guess you did not the news about text messages and such during and after Katrina a decent case can be made that the USA should sell of all ham VHF/UHF spectrum and use the money to build more redunacy in to the cell tower network so at text will get through no matter what - Mike KB3EIA - |
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![]() "TOM" wrote in message ... The future of the National Traffic System http://www.eham.net/articles/12198 [snip] For those of you who may not know, the National Traffic System (NTS) consists of a carefully choreographed collection of section, region, and area nets designed to relay messages throughout the US. In a sense it's the second "R" in ARRL. NTS has a long and honorable history and has some of the best operators in the world as its membership. The recent hurricane season has raised serious doubts for me about the role that NTS plays in the current ham-radio environment. I did not hear a single health-and-welfare message during the disasters. In bygone times, NTS would have been buzzing with activity. [snip] Tom, I hate to break your ham hating crusade but the NTS can't run any traffic, if none is sent to it. I had the exact same complaint. I did manage to handle a few messages, but NOTHING like I was expecting. I have since found that the American Red Cross, for WHATEVER REASON decided that ham radio was not good enough to use. Other than for a VHF Telephone network between shelters that is. Not our bad Tom. We were there, ready, willing, and able. Dan/W4NTI |
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![]() "Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message m... TOM wrote: I did not hear a single health-and-welfare message during the disasters. In bygone times, NTS would have been buzzing with activity. [snip] Try turning your receiver on next time, I heard lots of H&W traffic during Katrina and Rita. I think he will respond with "not on the National Traffic System". And he would be right. I heard lots of "traffic" on the designated emergency nets. Although most of that was not formatted properly (as in NTS format). Dan/W4NTI |
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![]() "20 Meter Kookenschlong" wrote in message roups.com... "TOM" wrote in message ... To continue the thread... 'ARRL Publishing Empire LLC' looses again and Ham radio operator couch potatoes watch TV... so...? WTF else is new with the price of tea in China...? Heck, I was just listening to the HWN on 14.325 and some jerk was on there playing music! So much for ham radio being a public service asset. That's right....because one drunken goofball plays music...ALL of ham radio is a failure. You don't pull jury duty do you? Dan/W4NTI |
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