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really hans no call to be rude
On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 05:03:46 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote: http://tinyurl.com/bps4v 73, de Hans, K0HB if you on't like qrp (personaly don't seethe point but) you don't need to be rude about it _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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wrote Len would probably recognize it. Len does homebrew QRO? |
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QRP is for sissies!
"KØHB" wrote in message nk.net... http://tinyurl.com/bps4v 73, de Hans, K0HB Hello, Hans As you well know, it isn't the size of the ship, it's the motion through the ocean! :)) You got the comms going back to Guam with what, 100 watts? Into a chain link fence? I know some folks would tell you (and me) to go back to the VFW and tell tales. I hope that the young folks can handle the emergency traffic. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
QRP is for sissies!
KØHB wrote: wrote Len would probably recognize it. Len does homebrew QRO? Don't know. But the 3cx10,000a7? Hardly amateurish. Probably more in the domain of professionals. |
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Really Hans, no call to be rude
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If you don't like qrp (personaly don't see the point) ... I'm holding a home-built 40m QRP xmtr with only 27 components. Imagine that -- a few hours spent scrounging through my parts boxes, winding some coils, soldering everything together, and as if my magic, I'm on 40m CW. Now do you see the point? 73, Jeff KH6O -- Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System |
QRP is for sissies!
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From: on Sun, Jan 1 2006 7:24 am K0HB wrote: wrote Len would probably recognize it. Len does homebrew QRO? Don't know. Nope. No QRO and no HRO or DRO or PLO. I've used commercial wideband high-power VHF amplifiers for testing in professional work. Smaller than shown in the photo. What does it matter what you've used professionally that you didn't build, Len? But the 3cx10,000a7? Hardly amateurish. Probably more in the domain of professionals. Sounds rather ILLEGAL to me if "used on 80m" as claimed by the seller. What would be illegal about using such an amp on 80m? Not something that HRO or even Henry Radio would feature in catalogs ("call or write for details and prices"). Pro stuff, probably intended for something rather different than pure communications. From the looks of the exhaust vent in the E-bay photo, I'd say that it should be about a 10-gallon RF output thing, quite out of the amateur legal limits. That doesn't mean that it is run above the legal amateur power limits. It only means that it could be. Besides, it doesn't have enough knobbies on it to "qualify" for an amateur radio transmitter on "the bands" (HF). A linear amplifier isn't a transmitter, Len. It amplifies the output of a tranmitter or tranceiver. :-) :-) Dave K8MN |
QRP is for sissies!
wrote: From: on Sun, Jan 1 2006 7:24 am K0HB wrote: wrote Len would probably recognize it. Len does homebrew QRO? Don't know. Nope. No QRO and no HRO or DRO or PLO. I've used commercial wideband high-power VHF amplifiers for testing in professional work. Smaller than shown in the photo. But the 3cx10,000a7? Hardly amateurish. Probably more in the domain of professionals. Sounds rather ILLEGAL to me if "used on 80m" as claimed by the seller. Not something that HRO or even Henry Radio would feature in catalogs ("call or write for details and prices"). Pro stuff, probably intended for something rather different than pure communications. From the looks of the exhaust vent in the E-bay photo, I'd say that it should be about a 10-gallon RF output thing, quite out of the amateur legal limits. Besides, it doesn't have enough knobbies on it to "qualify" for an amateur radio transmitter on "the bands" (HF). Sweetums you clueless old fart, check out the ACOM 2000A "amateur" HF 2kW+ amp, not a "knobbie" in sight. Get a life. |
QRP is for sissies!
KØHB wrote: http://tinyurl.com/bps4v 73, de Hans, K0HB KØHB wrote: http://tinyurl.com/bps4v 73, de Hans, K0HB Heh. Yessss . . Reminds me of the time there was a flap in this NG about that Eimac bottle or one of it's close cousins being used to run 56kW in a Chevvy Suburban truck during CB "shootouts". I tossed the 56kW "mobile" station topic into the thread as post #150 and the thread went on to 899 posts before it finally died. The thread was "CW = Engineer ?" circa 1 Sept 98. It's still available. Back when folk like Carroll, Hare, Tennehill and McCollum populated this NG and the average IQ hereabouts was 30 points higher than it is these days. Sweetums was there too of course tossing out all sorts of his usual inane blather even back then . . like it wasn't possible to run 56kW in a Suburban because the coax and antenna would get toasted by all those amperes worth of RF. giggle! |
QRP is for sissies!
wrote Sounds rather ILLEGAL to me if "used on 80m" as claimed by the seller. Nothing illegal, so long as it's used within the rules. I have a couple of different amplifiers which could easily be driven beyond 1500W out, but are perfectly legal so long as the power output rule is observed. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
QRP is for sissies!
From: K0HB on Jan 2, 1:04 pm
wrote on high-power linear RF amplifier Sounds rather ILLEGAL to me if "used on 80m" as claimed by the seller. Nothing illegal, so long as it's used within the rules. That's the crux of the whole thing, isn't it? "Legality." :-) I have a couple of different amplifiers which could easily be driven beyond 1500W out, but are perfectly legal so long as the power output rule is observed. ...and just who checks your "legal status" in operating? Oh, my, there's LOTS of different "technical" regulations in Part 97, Title 47 C.F.R., aren't there? The same can be said of Citizens Band Radio Service. It was "okay" once and legal to have a linear amplifier connected to a CB transmitter provided one did not exceed the regulatory limits found in Part 95, Title 47 C.F.R. Uh huh... :-) A company called General Radiotelephone once operated in Burbank, CA, on Magnolia Blvd a few blocks from Hollywood Way. They had - once - a cramped, busy assembly line operation going on the second floor of one building on the north side of Magnolia Blvd. Their major product was a CB transceiver which was ready to increase its power output from 5 to 35 Watts (by removing a jumper) "if and when the FCC allows a power output change." It SOLD in quantity with that "feature." The company planned to expand in the near future and had put up most of a triangle tower for their CB antenna...tower still visible half- erected on the roof today. Of course the FCC never did increase CB power output. The offshore import CB rigs arrived to undercut their prices and they went Chapter something and quit the business. [no, I didn't have one of those General Radiotelephone rigs, but they were in my vicinity and I was up on their second floor factory] Now and for some years there has been a legal no-no on even being able to PURCHASE a linear amplifier in a certain frequency range...which could be used for a CB radio...or a 10m amateur radio. Can you connect the dots and see a trend for the future there? If someone has a 10 KW linear that covers all of "the bands" (HF) then it is tempting both faith and human nature to say that a legally-licensed (certificated, tested, got their legal license in the nave of the Church of St.Hiram) amateur will ALWAYS OBEY THE RULES. The temptation is GREAT...just sitting there, ready to go, beside the operating position in the "shack." Of course YOU will always be scrupulously honest. [was there any doubt?] Are all the other legal amateurs just as scrupulously honest? Be honest now... |
QRP is for sissies!
wrote ...and just who checks your "legal status" in operating? Me and Mr. Bird Type 43 Now and for some years there has been a legal no-no on even being able to PURCHASE a linear amplifier in a certain frequency range...which could be used for a CB radio...or a 10m amateur radio. Can you connect the dots and see a trend for the future there? A single dot does not constitute a trend. And the "legal no-no" (§97.315, §97.317) does not apply to homebrewed amplifiers, which the item in question appears to be. Amateur-to-amateur sales are also exempt. Sunuvagun! 73, de Hans, K0HB -- Lord High Liberator of the Electric Smoke |
when will steve fess up to his abuse of RRAP?
On 1 Jan 2006 07:48:55 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 05:03:46 GMT, "KØHB" wrote: http://tinyurl.com/bps4v 73, de Hans, K0HB ...(personaly don't seethe point but)...(SNIP) There's a hot flash. agains stevie why do try to hijack another thread Steve, K4YZ _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
More Markie Mularkie
wrote: On 1 Jan 2006 07:48:55 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote: wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 05:03:46 GMT, "KØHB" wrote: http://tinyurl.com/bps4v 73, de Hans, K0HB ...(personaly don't seethe point but)...(SNIP) There's a hot flash. agains stevie why do try to hijack another thread And YOUR comment was...?!?! Steve, K4YZ |
QRP is for sissies!
"KØHB" wrote in message k.net... wrote ...and just who checks your "legal status" in operating? Me and Mr. Bird Type 43 Now and for some years there has been a legal no-no on even being able to PURCHASE a linear amplifier in a certain frequency range...which could be used for a CB radio...or a 10m amateur radio. Can you connect the dots and see a trend for the future there? A single dot does not constitute a trend. And the "legal no-no" (§97.315, §97.317) does not apply to homebrewed amplifiers, which the item in question appears to be. Amateur-to-amateur sales are also exempt. Sunuvagun! 73, de Hans, K0HB -- Lord High Liberator of the Electric Smoke Didn't the FCC change that in the last year or two? Since it didn't successfully keep the amplifiers off the CB band anyway, I believe they dropped that restriction. Since I have to head off to work shortly, I don't have time to look it up now but I do remember reading something on that. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
More Stinking Mularkie for the asshoel of RRAP
K4YZ wrote: wrote: On 1 Jan 2006 07:48:55 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote: wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 05:03:46 GMT, "KØHB" wrote: http://tinyurl.com/bps4v 73, de Hans, K0HB ...(personaly don't seethe point but)...(SNIP) There's a hot flash. agains stevie why do try to hijack another thread And YOUR comment was...?!?! that you contiue to try to hijack threads intot personal attacks somethingyou claim you never do more lies more **** for the assholeof RRAP Steve, K4YZ |
QRP is for sissies!
"Dee Flint" wrote in message ... And the "legal no-no" (§97.315, §97.317) does not apply to homebrewed amplifiers, which the item in question appears to be. Amateur-to-amateur sales are also exempt. Sunuvagun! 73, de Hans, K0HB -- Lord High Liberator of the Electric Smoke Didn't the FCC change that in the last year or two? Since it didn't successfully keep the amplifiers off the CB band anyway, I believe they dropped that restriction. §97.315 and §97.317 remain in effect. 73, de Hans, K0HB -- Lord High Liberator of the Electric Smoke |
QRP is for sissies!
wrote in message ups.com... KØHB wrote: http://tinyurl.com/bps4v 73, de Hans, K0HB Snipped Back when folk like Carroll, Hare, Tennehill and McCollum populated this NG and the average IQ hereabouts was 30 points higher than it is these days. Snipped giggle! After reading many of the posts in this NG, I doubt if the average IQ hereabouts is more than 30 points these days. Ace - WH2T |
QRP is for sissies!
After reading many of the posts in this NG, I doubt if the average IQ hereabouts is more than 30 points these days. Ace - WH2T BINGO ....give that man a seegar ........ Take care all ..... 73 KI3R Tom Belle Vernon PA |
QRP is for sissies!
"KØHB" wrote in message ink.net... "Dee Flint" wrote in message ... And the "legal no-no" (§97.315, §97.317) does not apply to homebrewed amplifiers, which the item in question appears to be. Amateur-to-amateur sales are also exempt. Sunuvagun! 73, de Hans, K0HB -- Lord High Liberator of the Electric Smoke Didn't the FCC change that in the last year or two? Since it didn't successfully keep the amplifiers off the CB band anyway, I believe they dropped that restriction. §97.315 and §97.317 remain in effect. 73, de Hans, K0HB -- Lord High Liberator of the Electric Smoke Well it looks like that item (WT Docket 04-140) is still in limbo. Part of it does include changing the amplifier rules but it hasn't been implemented. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
QRP is for Sissies!
an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: wrote: agains stevie why do try to hijack another thread And YOUR comment was...?!?! that you contiue to try to hijack threads intot personal attacks somethingyou claim you never do But I didn't. I jsut asked you what YOUR comment was. more lies more #### for the ###holeof RRAP Yes, Markie, your comments were #### and you do tend to be an ###hole on RRAP. Congratulations...A move forward for you... Steve, K4YZ |
(§97.315, §97.317) still in effect
Dee Flint wrote:
"KØHB" wrote in message ink.net... "Dee Flint" wrote in message ... And the "legal no-no" (§97.315, §97.317) does not apply to homebrewed amplifiers, which the item in question appears to be. Amateur-to-amateur sales are also exempt. Didn't the FCC change that in the last year or two? Since it didn't successfully keep the amplifiers off the CB band anyway, I believe they dropped that restriction. §97.315 and §97.317 remain in effect. Well it looks like that item (WT Docket 04-140) is still in limbo. Part of it does include changing the amplifier rules but it hasn't been implemented. IIRC, those rules date back to 1978. They're a result of widespread use of external "linear" amplifiers by cb and freeband users. FCC thought that outlawing the manufacture and sale of such amplifiers would decrease their use, which is completely illegal. Of course no such effect occurred, and the manufacture, sale and use of such amplifiers by cb and freeband users continues even today. The only real effect those rules have is on amateurs, who could no longer buy amplifiers capable of operation on 10 and 12 meters unless modified, and who could no longer buy amplifiers suitable for use with HF QRP rigs at all. The rules also affect kits, leaving homebrew as the only option. Amateurs were punished for what nonamateurs did. One manufacturer found a way to produce a legal QRP-to-100W HF amplifier, however. The amplifer is designed so that it can only work with the rig for which it is designed, because it needs control information from the main rig's microprocessor control system. The controlling rig is designed so that it will not transmit outside the amateur bands above 25 MHz, and that feature is not defeatable by anything other than a rewrite of the firmware. So both the rig and its amplifier (which is meant to be mounted inside the rig) are useless for cb and freeband use. FCC has accepted the design. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
(§97.315, §97.317) still in effect
BEGIN QUOTE wrote in message oups.com... Dee Flint wrote: "KØHB" wrote in message ink.net... "Dee Flint" wrote in message ... And the "legal no-no" (§97.315, §97.317) does not apply to homebrewed amplifiers, which the item in question appears to be. Amateur-to-amateur sales are also exempt. Didn't the FCC change that in the last year or two? Since it didn't successfully keep the amplifiers off the CB band anyway, I believe they dropped that restriction. §97.315 and §97.317 remain in effect. Well it looks like that item (WT Docket 04-140) is still in limbo. Part of it does include changing the amplifier rules but it hasn't been implemented. IIRC, those rules date back to 1978. They're a result of widespread use of external "linear" amplifiers by cb and freeband users. FCC thought that outlawing the manufacture and sale of such amplifiers would decrease their use, which is completely illegal. Of course no such effect occurred, and the manufacture, sale and use of such amplifiers by cb and freeband users continues even today. END QUOTE Yes, the reason and date are correct. There's an extensive discussion of the docket on the ARRL website. Because the current rules have not stopped the illegal CB use, the FCC proposed to eliminate these restrictions but has not yet acted to do so. The use of these amplifiers is already prohibited by the CB regulations and the additional regulation had no impact since there was no significant level of enforcement. Reminds me of a state that hired a consultant to evaluate what new laws were needed to reduce the number and severity of car/bicycle accidents. His conclusion was that the state needed to enforce the laws already on the books and that no new laws were needed. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
all steve can realy do is try to hijack threads
On 3 Jan 2006 00:45:19 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
wrote: On 1 Jan 2006 07:48:55 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote: wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 05:03:46 GMT, "KØHB" wrote: http://tinyurl.com/bps4v 73, de Hans, K0HB ...(personaly don't seethe point but)...(SNIP) There's a hot flash. agains stevie why do try to hijack another thread And YOUR comment was...?!?! made and reconfimred Steve, K4YZ everyone should be advised that The following person has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable STEVEN J ROBESON 151 12TH AVE NW WINCHESTER TN 37398 931-967-6282 well stevie you assked for it you got it Mark Morgan _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
(§97.315, §97.317) still in effect
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 07:07:50 -0500, "Dee Flint"
wrote: BEGIN QUOTE wrote in message roups.com... Dee Flint wrote: "KØHB" wrote in message ink.net... "Dee Flint" wrote in message ... And the "legal no-no" (§97.315, §97.317) does not apply to homebrewed amplifiers, which the item in question appears to be. Amateur-to-amateur sales are also exempt. Didn't the FCC change that in the last year or two? Since it didn't successfully keep the amplifiers off the CB band anyway, I believe they dropped that restriction. §97.315 and §97.317 remain in effect. Well it looks like that item (WT Docket 04-140) is still in limbo. Part of it does include changing the amplifier rules but it hasn't been implemented. IIRC, those rules date back to 1978. They're a result of widespread use of external "linear" amplifiers by cb and freeband users. FCC thought that outlawing the manufacture and sale of such amplifiers would decrease their use, which is completely illegal. Of course no such effect occurred, and the manufacture, sale and use of such amplifiers by cb and freeband users continues even today. END QUOTE Yes, the reason and date are correct. There's an extensive discussion of the docket on the ARRL website. Because the current rules have not stopped the illegal CB use, the FCC proposed to eliminate these restrictions but has not yet acted to do so. The use of these amplifiers is already prohibited by the CB regulations and the additional regulation had no impact since there was no significant level of enforcement. Reminds me of a state that hired a consultant to evaluate what new laws were needed to reduce the number and severity of car/bicycle accidents. His conclusion was that the state needed to enforce the laws already on the books and that no new laws were needed. the only p"problem" with your line of reasoning in this matter is that it is in fact logical, and that the Govt is involved to end the reg today would be an addistion in some eyes that the FCC made a mistakes in writing them and no crat wants to admit a mistake eiter his own or that of anynother crats lest he be denounced as makking a mistake himself some day the same reason keep in place the silly about rnage of conatct (being 100 or 150 miles I don't recall) on a band that can support long range with breaking the other rules even I have borke that by accientedt near the last peak thinking i was tlaking to someone around springfeild (without checking it was ILLinois ) til is became clear iit wasn't) thus breaking the rule Dee D. Flint, N8UZE everyone should be advised that The following person has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable STEVEN J ROBESON 151 12TH AVE NW WINCHESTER TN 37398 931-967-6282 well stevie you assked for it you got it Mark Morgan _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
More Markie Mularkie
wrote: On 3 Jan 2006 00:45:19 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote: wrote: On 1 Jan 2006 07:48:55 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote: wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 05:03:46 GMT, "KØHB" wrote: http://tinyurl.com/bps4v 73, de Hans, K0HB ...(personaly don't seethe point but)...(SNIP) There's a hot flash. agains stevie why do try to hijack another thread And YOUR comment was...?!?! made and reconfimred No it wasn't. It was nearly indecipherable. well stevie you assked for it you got it No where did I ask you to be an idiot, Mark...It's just your way. Steve, K4YZ |
more shit fro stve
On 5 Jan 2006 01:19:48 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
wrote: On 3 Jan 2006 00:45:19 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote: wrote: On 1 Jan 2006 07:48:55 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote: wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 05:03:46 GMT, "KØHB" wrote: http://tinyurl.com/bps4v 73, de Hans, K0HB ...(personaly don't seethe point but)...(SNIP) There's a hot flash. agains stevie why do try to hijack another thread And YOUR comment was...?!?! made and reconfimred No it wasn't. It was nearly indecipherable. you just lied agin in you said you found nearly indeipherable therefore you did dicepher it (or you lied again) meaning it was there so you lied when you said it wasn't we are up 4 lies so far in reading this posting cycle of yours well stevie you assked for it you got it No where did I ask you to be an idiot, Mark...It's just your way. more lies stve try telling something like the ruth Steve, K4YZ everyone should be advised that The following person has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable STEVEN J ROBESON 151 12TH AVE NW WINCHESTER TN 37398 931-967-6282 well stevie you assked for it you got it Mark Morgan _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
steve double standard
On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 05:03:46 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote: QRP is for sissies! Hans is allowed to be insulting without a word from steve but let me try and defnd a section fo the hobby, one I personaly don't see the point in but defend ther right to treated politely and both Jeff and Steve flame me for defending the QRPers http://tinyurl.com/bps4v 73, de Hans, K0HB everyone should be advised that The following person has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable he regualrly makes threats of aresst or of the power to confine folks againsthere will he is lying of course STEVEN J ROBESON 151 12TH AVE NW WINCHESTER TN 37398 931-967-6282 well stevie you assked for it you got it Mark Morgan _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
(§97.315, §97.317) still in effect
On 7 Jan 2006 04:27:54 -0800, wrote:
wrote: Dee Flint wrote: "KØHB" wrote in message ink.net... "Dee Flint" wrote in message ... And the "legal no-no" (§97.315, §97.317) does not apply to homebrewed amplifiers, which the item in question appears to be. Amateur-to-amateur sales are also exempt. Didn't the FCC change that in the last year or two? Since it didn't successfully keep the amplifiers off the CB band anyway, I believe they dropped that restriction. §97.315 and §97.317 remain in effect. Well it looks like that item (WT Docket 04-140) is still in limbo. Part of it does include changing the amplifier rules but it hasn't been implemented. IIRC, those rules date back to 1978. They're a result of widespread use of external "linear" amplifiers by cb and freeband users. FCC thought that outlawing the manufacture and sale of such amplifiers would decrease their use, which is completely illegal. Of course no such effect occurred, and the manufacture, sale and use of such amplifiers by cb and freeband users continues even today. Layers of laws, but no enforcement. Why is it that I could walk into any interstate CB shop and see this stuff, but the FCC can't? becuase you care about the law the FCC (and most law enforcement don't) everyone should be advised that The following person has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable he regualrly makes threats of aresst or of the power to confine folks againsthere will he is lying of course STEVEN J ROBESON 151 12TH AVE NW WINCHESTER TN 37398 931-967-6282 well stevie you assked for it you got it Mark Morgan _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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more hacking by the asshole of rrap
On 3 Jan 2006 00:45:19 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
wrote: On 1 Jan 2006 07:48:55 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote: wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 05:03:46 GMT, "KØHB" wrote: http://tinyurl.com/bps4v 73, de Hans, K0HB ...(personaly don't seethe point but)...(SNIP) There's a hot flash. agains stevie why do try to hijack another thread And YOUR comment was...?!?! cut by you to try and hijack another thread Steve, K4YZ everyone should be advised that The following person has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable he regualrly makes threats of aresst or of the power to confine folks againsthere will he is lying of course STEVEN J ROBESON 151 12TH AVE NW WINCHESTER TN 37398 931-967-6282 well stevie you assked for it you got it Mark Morgan _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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