On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:48:56 -0800, dave wrote:

Keith wrote:

http://www.liveleak.com/mp53/player.....liveleak.com/
mp53/player_config.php?token=07b_1284580365%26embed=1

Shortened URL:
http://bit.ly/b9VMU0


This guy carries 30 pounds of tools up the ladder with him? Most
climbers I know take the end of a line with them, then attach a pulley
where they'll be working, then they send the end of the rope back down.
Then the ground crew can send up tools, parts, whatever, and you don't
have to worry about not forgetting anything but the rope and the pulley.

Maybe he works alone...

how much does 1700' of line weigh?

bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:48:56 -0800, wrote:

This guy carries 30 pounds of tools up the ladder with him? Most
climbers I know take the end of a line with them, then attach a pulley
where they'll be working, then they send the end of the rope back down.
Then the ground crew can send up tools, parts, whatever, and you don't
have to worry about not forgetting anything but the rope and the pulley.

Maybe he works alone...

how much does 1700' of line weigh?

Press Release

Tower Association Responds to Erroneous and Dangerous Video

The following statement is being issued by the National Association of
Tower Erectors (NATE) regarding a dangerous video post erroneously
characterizing “free climbing” on towers as lawful and common.
NATE would like to publicly denounce the message of the recently posted
video depicting two men climbing a broadcast tower. NATE asserts that
the posting of the content was misguided and its messages should not be
given credence by any viewer.
The “Stairway to Heaven” video, reportedly launched by
TheOnLineEngineer.org, suggests that free climbing is an accepted method
of ascending and descending broadcast and telecommunication towers. The
video incorrectly asserts that free climbing is accepted by OSHA and
that “most tower workers climb this way.” The video also depicts as
standard procedure other dangerous and prohibited conduct not condoned
by NATE or OSHA. There are many inaccuracies in this video.
NATE’s efforts to establish a culture of safety in the wireless and
broadcast tower industry encourages everyone involved with tower work to
adhere to recognized safe practices. The video in question is an example
of a climber who is either unaware of recognized safety practices or is
unwilling to take the time to protect his life and the life of his
co-worker in the video. By extension it encourages others to employ
unsafe climbing techniques not endorsed by either OSHA or NATE.
Contractors who refuse to operate safely should never be hired. This
video is one more example of why the efforts of NATE, our membership and
industry partners are imperative.
NATE, the industry’s leader in tower safety, continues to pursue working
relationships with carriers, broadcasters and other tower
owner/operators to ensure that only qualified contractors set foot on
tower sites. The Association has worked with OSHA to develop safety best
practices and educational programs to ensure every tower worker goes
home safely every day. Companies which allow free climbing and other
violations of recognized safety practices are placing lives in danger
and jeopardizing tower work services.
NATE is looking forward to OSHA’s statement clarifying this matter for
the industry.
Work Quality in Question
Employers who allow such practices will likely cut corners on other
aspects of their work. NATE asks, “If a company or employee will cut
corners with the lives of its workers, on what other aspects of work
will they be willing to cut corners?” Owners and operators who hire this
type of contractor are opening themselves up to legal and regulatory
actions and are additionally running the risk of system malfunctions,
adding unnecessary costs on top of endangering lives.
NATE Requests Contact From Tower Owners and Operators
NATE is requesting contact from carriers, broadcasters and other
entities who own, operate or control wireless and broadcast towers as
well as the industry groups who represent them. NATE is doggedly
pursuing working relationships with these organizations to ensure that a
culture of safety exists throughout the industry and that only qualified
contractors set foot on tower sites. If your organization fits this
description, please contact Patrick Howey at 888-882-5865 or
.

http://www.natehome.com

"dave" wrote in message
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bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:48:56 -0800, wrote:

This guy carries 30 pounds of tools up the ladder with him? Most
climbers I know take the end of a line with them, then attach a pulley
where they'll be working, then they send the end of the rope back down.
Then the ground crew can send up tools, parts, whatever, and you don't
have to worry about not forgetting anything but the rope and the pulley.

Maybe he works alone...

how much does 1700' of line weigh?

Press Release

Tower Association Responds to Erroneous and Dangerous Video

The following statement is being issued by the National Association of
Tower Erectors (NATE) regarding a dangerous video post erroneously
characterizing “free climbing” on towers as lawful and common.
NATE would like to publicly denounce the message of the recently posted
video depicting two men climbing a broadcast tower. NATE asserts that the
posting of the content was misguided and its messages should not be given
credence by any viewer.
The “Stairway to Heaven” video, reportedly launched by
TheOnLineEngineer.org, suggests that free climbing is an accepted method
of ascending and descending broadcast and telecommunication towers. The
video incorrectly asserts that free climbing is accepted by OSHA and that
“most tower workers climb this way.” The video also depicts as standard
procedure other dangerous and prohibited conduct not condoned by NATE or
OSHA. There are many inaccuracies in this video.
NATE’s efforts to establish a culture of safety in the wireless and
broadcast tower industry encourages everyone involved with tower work to
adhere to recognized safe practices. The video in question is an example
of a climber who is either unaware of recognized safety practices or is
unwilling to take the time to protect his life and the life of his
co-worker in the video. By extension it encourages others to employ unsafe
climbing techniques not endorsed by either OSHA or NATE. Contractors who
refuse to operate safely should never be hired. This video is one more
example of why the efforts of NATE, our membership and industry partners
are imperative.
NATE, the industry’s leader in tower safety, continues to pursue working
relationships with carriers, broadcasters and other tower owner/operators
to ensure that only qualified contractors set foot on tower sites. The
Association has worked with OSHA to develop safety best practices and
educational programs to ensure every tower worker goes home safely every
day. Companies which allow free climbing and other violations of
recognized safety practices are placing lives in danger and jeopardizing
tower work services.
NATE is looking forward to OSHA’s statement clarifying this matter for the
industry.
Work Quality in Question
Employers who allow such practices will likely cut corners on other
aspects of their work. NATE asks, “If a company or employee will cut
corners with the lives of its workers, on what other aspects of work will
they be willing to cut corners?” Owners and operators who hire this type
of contractor are opening themselves up to legal and regulatory actions
and are additionally running the risk of system malfunctions, adding
unnecessary costs on top of endangering lives.
NATE Requests Contact From Tower Owners and Operators
NATE is requesting contact from carriers, broadcasters and other entities
who own, operate or control wireless and broadcast towers as well as the
industry groups who represent them. NATE is doggedly pursuing working
relationships with these organizations to ensure that a culture of safety
exists throughout the industry and that only qualified contractors set
foot on tower sites. If your organization fits this description, please
contact Patrick Howey at 888-882-5865 or .

http://www.natehome.com
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Heh heh....so that's why the faces were blurred in the video

Wayne wrote:
Heh heh....so that's why the faces were blurred in the video

You quoted complete post just for your one line of silly text? Learn to
quote first, then report to news groups.

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MVPA: 29718

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73 de 9A6KTB - Boris

On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 05:59:40 -0800, dave wrote:



Tower Association Responds to Erroneous and Dangerous Video


glad you posted this. when i climb i'm ALWAYS, ALWAYS attached to the
tower....althought the highest i've climbed is 155', it really doesnt
matter at this point. once you fall more than 15' or so, the results
are pretty much the same

On Nov 26, 2:56*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 05:59:40 -0800, dave wrote:

Tower Association Responds to Erroneous and Dangerous Video

glad you posted this. when i climb i'm ALWAYS, ALWAYS attached to the
tower....althought the highest i've climbed is 155', it really doesnt
matter at this point. once you fall more than 15' or so, the results
are pretty much the same

Yeah Messy !

"Boris Tuðan" wrote in message
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Wayne wrote:
Heh heh....so that's why the faces were blurred in the video

You quoted complete post just for your one line of silly text? Learn to
quote first, then report to news groups.

73 de 9A6KTB - Boris
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Get some manners, then get back to us.

Wayne wrote:
Get some manners, then get back to us.

Learn to quote and read netiquette when you get some time. You don't
want to be retarded for the rest of your life.

--
Keep 'em Rolling! http://www.mvpa.org/
MVPA: 29718

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73 de 9A6KTB - Boris

"Boris Tuðan" wrote in message
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Wayne wrote:
Get some manners, then get back to us.

Learn to quote and read netiquette when you get some time. You don't want
to be retarded for the rest of your life.

73 de 9A6KTB - Boris
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While you are waiting for me to do your homework assignments, how about
boning up on simple etiquette and trying to avoid PWD.
(posting while drunk)

Wayne wrote:
"Boris wrote in message
...
Wayne wrote:
Get some manners, then get back to us.

Learn to quote and read netiquette when you get some time. You don't want
to be retarded for the rest of your life.

73 de 9A6KTB - Boris
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While you are waiting for me to do your homework assignments, how about
boning up on simple etiquette and trying to avoid PWD.
(posting while drunk)