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Woolridge October 6th 03 04:38 PM

good news!
 
radioshack's new pro 96 digital scanner now supports the mil-air and 760-800
mhz band.

here's some links to check out.

http://www.trunkedradio.net/groups/s...=&postid=22591

http://www.starrsoft.com/software/win96/



ME October 6th 03 05:35 PM

I just saved a bunch of money by switching my car insurance to Geico!



On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:38:13 GMT, "Woolridge"
wrote:

radioshack's new pro 96 digital scanner now supports the mil-air and 760-800
mhz band.

here's some links to check out.

http://www.trunkedradio.net/groups/s...=&postid=22591

http://www.starrsoft.com/software/win96/



Diane Peters October 6th 03 06:09 PM

I just saved a bunch of money by switching my car insurance to Geico!

I thought you said you had some GOOD news?



GeorgeF October 6th 03 06:32 PM



Diane Peters wrote:
I just saved a bunch of money by switching my car insurance to Geico!



I thought you said you had some GOOD news?


It would have been good news if it really were true. I have not nor
will I purchase a PRO-96 because it lacks MilAir.

But to say a scanner receives MilAir when in deed it doesn't it one step
from fraud. NO the PRO-96 does NOT receive MilAir.

However with software you can "trick" the scanner into thinking it can
receive MilAir. This as been done before with other scanners and has
always produced POOR results.

First, who wants to lug around a LapTop computer with them when they're
out monitoring mobile. I can just see it, all these happy PRO-96 guys
carring a laptop with them while walking around an airshow.....Nothing
like drawing attention to yourself...

Next, the software will force the scanner to tune to the MilAir freqs
however since the scanner was never designed to receive 225-400 the
scanner does NOT have the correct filtering to receive these freqs. NOR
is the RF amplifiers in the radio designed to pass these freqs. In fact
I bet you'll find out there are actually filters in the radio to PREVENT
225-400 MHz freqs to pass. The reason for this is to prevent Cell phone
images to show up in in the 225-400 range or images freqs there of....

So in short for a piece of software to advertise that it will allow a
non MilAir scanner to receive MilAir is one step from fraud. The
scanner will be VERY deaf in this range, something software can not change.

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com




GeorgeF October 6th 03 07:31 PM

Darrin wrote:
George,
I agree with most of what you said, but some of it is a little
off. First, "Win96" is "Freeware". There is no "fraud". Second, I
believe you can program the out of range freqs into the scanner with
the software.. You don't need to use the computer each time. Of course
like you said, the performance is poor.


Thanks for letting me know its freeware, wasn't aware of that.

Can't remember which package it was (however it wasn't free) which
offered the same thing (can't remember which scanner either). But it
would only program the scanners search range for MilAir, not actual
channels. But either way bottom line is poor performance as the
scanners internal hardware is not designed for 225-400 MHz...

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com




Bob Parnass October 6th 03 08:03 PM

On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:48:50 -0400, Darrin wrote:

First, "Win96" is "Freeware"...


Don's web page states that Win96 is NOT freeware.
See: http://www.starrsoft.com/software/win96

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Bob Parnass, AJ9S GNU/Linux User http://parnass.com


Frank346 October 6th 03 10:36 PM

Lots of misinformation in this thread. First, there is no fraud here - the
author of the Win9x programs was clever enough to open up the coverage on
the GRE scanners to include mil-air. This is a bonus, something the radio is
not advertised to do. The PRO93 and 95 have good sensitivity at the bottom
of the band, gradually worsening to pretty bad at the top end. The software
is required to enter these frequencies. Win93 and Win95 are freeware.

The PRO96 seems to have better sensitivity across the band than the older
radios and once the expansion is enabled with the software, the frequencies
can then be entered from the radio's keypad. Early reports indicate pretty
good reception on some of the frequencies at the top of the band. We'll have
to wait for someone to do some measurements to see exactly what the
performance is. I would not expect that it will be good enough to satisfy
someone whose major focus is mil-air in any case. Win96 is not freeware but
there is a fully functional time limited demo available to try.

The RF amplifier in the radios is broadband and front end filters are
responsible for the frequency selective characteristics users observe.
Clearly it is possible to cover mil-air and still meet the cell band
rejection requirements - Uniden does it.



tvsteve October 7th 03 01:03 AM

On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:31:25 -0400, GeorgeF
wrote:

Darrin wrote:
George,
I agree with most of what you said, but some of it is a little
off. First, "Win96" is "Freeware". There is no "fraud". Second, I
believe you can program the out of range freqs into the scanner with
the software.. You don't need to use the computer each time. Of course
like you said, the performance is poor.


Thanks for letting me know its freeware, wasn't aware of that.

Can't remember which package it was (however it wasn't free) which
offered the same thing (can't remember which scanner either). But it
would only program the scanners search range for MilAir, not actual
channels. But either way bottom line is poor performance as the
scanners internal hardware is not designed for 225-400 MHz...



Have any of you actually taken an 95 or 96 to an airshow? I have and
my Pro95, programmed at home (no dragging laptop) was able to receive
excellent audio from the USAF Thunderbirds. (200-350Mhz) These are
portable units and I wouldn't be using it on my desktop for serious
scanning. JMO.

Steve

grenner October 7th 03 01:27 AM

You buy a 96 when you have no other choice because my area is digital 9600
baud. No 96 and I simply do not listen. No Military Air around here to
speak of so it really dosn't matter on that count either.

Greg

"GeorgeF" wrote in message
news:3F81A745.8020907@licensed4funREMOVEBEFOREFLIG HT.com...


Diane Peters wrote:
I just saved a bunch of money by switching my car insurance to Geico!



I thought you said you had some GOOD news?


It would have been good news if it really were true. I have not nor
will I purchase a PRO-96 because it lacks MilAir.

But to say a scanner receives MilAir when in deed it doesn't it one step
from fraud. NO the PRO-96 does NOT receive MilAir.

However with software you can "trick" the scanner into thinking it can
receive MilAir. This as been done before with other scanners and has
always produced POOR results.

First, who wants to lug around a LapTop computer with them when they're
out monitoring mobile. I can just see it, all these happy PRO-96 guys
carring a laptop with them while walking around an airshow.....Nothing
like drawing attention to yourself...

Next, the software will force the scanner to tune to the MilAir freqs
however since the scanner was never designed to receive 225-400 the
scanner does NOT have the correct filtering to receive these freqs. NOR
is the RF amplifiers in the radio designed to pass these freqs. In fact
I bet you'll find out there are actually filters in the radio to PREVENT
225-400 MHz freqs to pass. The reason for this is to prevent Cell phone
images to show up in in the 225-400 range or images freqs there of....

So in short for a piece of software to advertise that it will allow a
non MilAir scanner to receive MilAir is one step from fraud. The
scanner will be VERY deaf in this range, something software can not

change.

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com






Woolridge October 7th 03 02:21 AM

cool.

i think these radio's need to be benchmarked.
like the pro96 vs the bc250d.
i'd be really interested in how both perform.

"tvsteve" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:31:25 -0400, GeorgeF
wrote:

Darrin wrote:
George,
I agree with most of what you said, but some of it is a little
off. First, "Win96" is "Freeware". There is no "fraud". Second, I
believe you can program the out of range freqs into the scanner with
the software.. You don't need to use the computer each time. Of course
like you said, the performance is poor.


Thanks for letting me know its freeware, wasn't aware of that.

Can't remember which package it was (however it wasn't free) which
offered the same thing (can't remember which scanner either). But it
would only program the scanners search range for MilAir, not actual
channels. But either way bottom line is poor performance as the
scanners internal hardware is not designed for 225-400 MHz...



Have any of you actually taken an 95 or 96 to an airshow? I have and
my Pro95, programmed at home (no dragging laptop) was able to receive
excellent audio from the USAF Thunderbirds. (200-350Mhz) These are
portable units and I wouldn't be using it on my desktop for serious
scanning. JMO.

Steve





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