Legal Question
 

Hi Gang,

I know this isn't a "legal" group, but hear me out. We all know - there have
been laws passed in various states as to where scanners are allowed and not
allowed, particularly in motor vehicles - be they Ham operators or not -
unless involved with Police/Fire/EMS (you get the drift). So far as I am
still aware, PA is not included in any such laws. BUT - for the sake of this
question, I'm going to include PA in part of the question.... SO here
goes... and you - where ever you are, can tell me what the laws are in your
area as they may pertain to this subject so as not to drag this out more
than need be - as we know the scanner law question has been beaten down many
times in here in the past.
************************************************** ***********************************
Though states may not allow "Mobile" scanners... do they have in those same
laws or any other laws, any thing that remotely relates to a "hand held"
scanner being carried - ESPECIALLY - on board say - a "Transit" bus? Now, I
know that "transit buses" have signs and perhaps a policy - often loosely
enforced, as to having radios and the like (CD players and such) played so
as not to disturb other passengers. But is there any "LAWS" keeping a person
from carrying a "scanner" on board a bus? Oh, and I'm not referring to any
laws which may cover if a scanner were to be used in the course of a crime
being committed. I'm talking having one - in general.

I had a person tell me just today, a bus operator told them "A scanner was
illegal aboard a bus." The bus in question was in PA (the driver didn't
refer to PA specifically though), and I asked the party if they had
headphones on - they said yes. I know that most if not all the time, IF
headphones are worn, the radio or whatever is not brought into question. I
personally think the driver stepped WAY out of his league of knowledge.

Your thoughts?????

Thanks,

Lou

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 02:08:45 -0500, "Lou" wrote:


YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE


Hi Gang,




I know this isn't a "legal" group, but hear me out. We all know - there have
been laws passed in various states as to where scanners are allowed and not
allowed, particularly in motor vehicles - be they Ham operators or not -
unless involved with Police/Fire/EMS (you get the drift). So far as I am
still aware, PA is not included in any such laws. BUT - for the sake of this
question, I'm going to include PA in part of the question.... SO here
goes... and you - where ever you are, can tell me what the laws are in your
area as they may pertain to this subject so as not to drag this out more
than need be - as we know the scanner law question has been beaten down many
times in here in the past.
************************************************* ************************************
Though states may not allow "Mobile" scanners... do they have in those same
laws or any other laws, any thing that remotely relates to a "hand held"
scanner being carried - ESPECIALLY - on board say - a "Transit" bus? Now, I
know that "transit buses" have signs and perhaps a policy - often loosely
enforced, as to having radios and the like (CD players and such) played so
as not to disturb other passengers. But is there any "LAWS" keeping a person
from carrying a "scanner" on board a bus? Oh, and I'm not referring to any
laws which may cover if a scanner were to be used in the course of a crime
being committed. I'm talking having one - in general.

I had a person tell me just today, a bus operator told them "A scanner was
illegal aboard a bus." The bus in question was in PA (the driver didn't
refer to PA specifically though), and I asked the party if they had
headphones on - they said yes. I know that most if not all the time, IF
headphones are worn, the radio or whatever is not brought into question. I
personally think the driver stepped WAY out of his league of knowledge.

Your thoughts?????

Thanks,

Lou

"Lou" wrote in
.verio.net:

Hi Gang,

I know this isn't a "legal" group, but hear me out. We all know - there
have been laws passed in various states as to where scanners are allowed
and not allowed, particularly in motor vehicles - be they Ham operators
or not - unless involved with Police/Fire/EMS (you get the drift). So
far as I am still aware, PA is not included in any such laws. BUT - for
the sake of this question, I'm going to include PA in part of the
question.... SO here goes... and you - where ever you are, can tell me
what the laws are in your area as they may pertain to this subject so as
not to drag this out more than need be - as we know the scanner law
question has been beaten down many times in here in the past.
************************************************** ***********************
************ Though states may not allow "Mobile" scanners... do they
have in those same laws or any other laws, any thing that remotely
relates to a "hand held" scanner being carried - ESPECIALLY - on board
say - a "Transit" bus? Now, I know that "transit buses" have signs and
perhaps a policy - often loosely enforced, as to having radios and the
like (CD players and such) played so as not to disturb other passengers.
But is there any "LAWS" keeping a person from carrying a "scanner" on
board a bus? Oh, and I'm not referring to any laws which may cover if a
scanner were to be used in the course of a crime being committed. I'm
talking having one - in general.

I had a person tell me just today, a bus operator told them "A scanner
was illegal aboard a bus." The bus in question was in PA (the driver
didn't refer to PA specifically though), and I asked the party if they
had headphones on - they said yes. I know that most if not all the time,
IF headphones are worn, the radio or whatever is not brought into
question. I personally think the driver stepped WAY out of his league of
knowledge.

Your thoughts?????

Thanks,

Lou



Seems to me that the phrase 'mobile use of a scanner is prohibited' is
pretty self explanitory.

Yeah, it's self explanatory, so get a life, like that other guy said ...
r yu stewped?


"T-bone" wrote in message
9.130...
"Lou" wrote in
.verio.net:

Hi Gang,

I know this isn't a "legal" group, but hear me out. We all know - there
have been laws passed in various states as to where scanners are allowed
and not allowed, particularly in motor vehicles - be they Ham operators
or not - unless involved with Police/Fire/EMS (you get the drift). So
far as I am still aware, PA is not included in any such laws. BUT - for
the sake of this question, I'm going to include PA in part of the
question.... SO here goes... and you - where ever you are, can tell me
what the laws are in your area as they may pertain to this subject so as
not to drag this out more than need be - as we know the scanner law
question has been beaten down many times in here in the past.
************************************************** ***********************
************ Though states may not allow "Mobile" scanners... do they
have in those same laws or any other laws, any thing that remotely
relates to a "hand held" scanner being carried - ESPECIALLY - on board
say - a "Transit" bus? Now, I know that "transit buses" have signs and
perhaps a policy - often loosely enforced, as to having radios and the
like (CD players and such) played so as not to disturb other passengers.
But is there any "LAWS" keeping a person from carrying a "scanner" on
board a bus? Oh, and I'm not referring to any laws which may cover if a
scanner were to be used in the course of a crime being committed. I'm
talking having one - in general.

I had a person tell me just today, a bus operator told them "A scanner
was illegal aboard a bus." The bus in question was in PA (the driver
didn't refer to PA specifically though), and I asked the party if they
had headphones on - they said yes. I know that most if not all the time,
IF headphones are worn, the radio or whatever is not brought into
question. I personally think the driver stepped WAY out of his league of
knowledge.

Your thoughts?????

Thanks,

Lou



Seems to me that the phrase 'mobile use of a scanner is prohibited' is
pretty self explanitory.

"Jaddled Burf-Whummy" wrote in message
news:wG5Md.252460$Xk.248143@pd7tw3no...
Yeah, it's self explanatory, so get a life, like that other guy said ...
r yu stewped?


"T-bone" wrote in message
9.130...
"Lou" wrote in
.verio.net:

Hi Gang,

I know this isn't a "legal" group, but hear me out. We all know - there
Seems to me that the phrase 'mobile use of a scanner is prohibited' is
pretty self explanitory.



Such intelligent answers.... It is NOT self explanatory, as there are
usually exceptions to any law. Get a life? Stewped? WOW, I'm impressed. Such
intelligent answers. How about providing some factual answers. Must be bus
drivers like the one this person ran into. Scanners are sold to be used. So,
tell me, if YOU with the intelligent responses are "truly" scanner users -
were told you weren't allowed to be in possession of your scanners in
certain situations, you would just say "Oh, OK!" and give up? I doubt it.
Thanks for the help thus far. Sure hope you're as fortunate when you need
it.

L.

"Lou" wrote in message
.verio.net...
Hi Gang,

I know this isn't a "legal" group, but hear me out. We all know - there
have been laws passed in various states as to where scanners are allowed
and not allowed, particularly in motor vehicles - be they Ham operators or
not - unless involved with Police/Fire/EMS (you get the drift). So far as
I am still aware, PA is not included in any such laws. BUT - for the sake
of this question, I'm going to include PA in part of the question.... SO
here goes... and you - where ever you are, can tell me what the laws are
in your area as they may pertain to this subject so as not to drag this
out more than need be - as we know the scanner law question has been
beaten down many times in here in the past.
************************************************** ***********************************
Though states may not allow "Mobile" scanners... do they have in those
same laws or any other laws, any thing that remotely relates to a "hand
held" scanner being carried - ESPECIALLY - on board say - a "Transit" bus?
Now, I know that "transit buses" have signs and perhaps a policy - often
loosely enforced, as to having radios and the like (CD players and such)
played so as not to disturb other passengers. But is there any "LAWS"
keeping a person from carrying a "scanner" on board a bus? Oh, and I'm not
referring to any laws which may cover if a scanner were to be used in the
course of a crime being committed. I'm talking having one - in general.

I had a person tell me just today, a bus operator told them "A scanner was
illegal aboard a bus." The bus in question was in PA (the driver didn't
refer to PA specifically though), and I asked the party if they had
headphones on - they said yes. I know that most if not all the time, IF
headphones are worn, the radio or whatever is not brought into question. I
personally think the driver stepped WAY out of his league of knowledge.

Your thoughts?????

Thanks,

Lou


Usenet is a real poor place to ask any kind of legal question. You, as you
have seen, can get all kinds of answers. If you rely on the responses here,
get in trouble with the law, telling some judge you "read it on the net"
will get you nothing.
If the state you are in has laws regarding scanners, I would have to
assume the law is available on line?
As to the Public bus, if you find there is no law against them, the easy
way would seem to be not let the driver know you have a scanner. If the guy
is using headphones who is going to know what he is listening to?
--
The two most abundant things in the universe are Hydrogen and Stupidity.
(not necessarily in that order)

"Alex Clayton" wrote in message news:so7Md.4179$
Usenet is a real poor place to ask any kind of legal question. You, as you
have seen, can get all kinds of answers. If you rely on the responses
here, get in trouble with the law, telling some judge you "read it on the
net" will get you nothing.

No it won't.

He'll get to see the judge roll his eyes as if saying "how stupid can this
guy be?"

If the state you are in has laws regarding scanners, I would have to
assume the law is available on line?

All statutes are available on line, through the state's gummint website.
Just have to look

As to the Public bus, if you find there is no law against them, the easy
way would seem to be not let the driver know you have a scanner. If the
guy is using headphones who is going to know what he is listening to?

I take mine with my on the rapid transit train with headphones. No trouble
at all. Listen in on transit frequencies.

"Alex Clayton" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Lou" wrote in message
.verio.net...

Usenet is a real poor place to ask any kind of legal question. You, as you
have seen, can get all kinds of answers. If you rely on the responses
here, get in trouble with the law, telling some judge you "read it on the
net" will get you nothing.
If the state you are in has laws regarding scanners, I would have to
assume the law is available on line?
As to the Public bus, if you find there is no law against them, the easy
way would seem to be not let the driver know you have a scanner. If the
guy is using headphones who is going to know what he is listening to?
--
The two most abundant things in the universe are Hydrogen and Stupidity.
(not necessarily in that order)




I understand and certainly agree that Usenet is not a "legal" authority.
What I was attempting to do, was get a feel for what is out there as to
laws - since it would seem to me the hundreds if not thousands of users
would have by now - tapped into their state laws in interest and may have
weighed in with anything in comparison OR in any instances similar. Maybe
even case history as to challenges. Sorry I asked.........

"Paul Keenleyside" wrote in message
news:hs7Md.195919$KO5.12735@clgrps13...

As to the Public bus, if you find there is no law against them, the easy
way would seem to be not let the driver know you have a scanner. If the
guy is using headphones who is going to know what he is listening to?

I take mine with my on the rapid transit train with headphones. No trouble
at all. Listen in on transit frequencies.


THANK YOU, this is the type of reference I was looking for - to see if
others faced similar situations, hurdles - with regard to using scanners
onboard transit.

We're not all goody-two-shoes types, in fact, I know of a guy that USED to
post stuff in this NG who was just the opposite, he used scanners to beat
the cops regularly (as do a lot of this NGs regulars to this day, you can
tell who they are because they feel the greatest need to hide behind loud,
strident exclamations of shocked,
"I'm-so-aghast-at-the-idea-of-using-scanners-in-an-unlawful-manner"
responses --- you'll see what I mean, just watch).
As for bus drivers, whoa. I for one am not too fond of some of those
dyed-in-the-wool rodents. The personality disorders of some of these
individuals is pathetic, they should have these retards working in the back
of a warehouse somewhere they NEVER come into contact with the public, never
mind on a public bus where they can brag to each other about how far they
keep people running after the bus before speeding away, and how many old
people they knock down by sudden acceleration/deceleration for no reason
other than an old person is standing up and vulnerable to being pushed over.
My advice to you is, use your scanner wherever and whenever you damn well
want to, and use it for whatever you want to. How are they going to know?



"Lou" wrote in message
.verio.net...
Hi Gang,

I know this isn't a "legal" group, but hear me out. We all know - there
have been laws passed in various states as to where scanners are allowed
and not allowed, particularly in motor vehicles - be they Ham operators or
not - unless involved with Police/Fire/EMS (you get the drift). So far as
I am still aware, PA is not included in any such laws. BUT - for the sake
of this question, I'm going to include PA in part of the question.... SO
here goes... and you - where ever you are, can tell me what the laws are
in your area as they may pertain to this subject so as not to drag this
out more than need be - as we know the scanner law question has been
beaten down many times in here in the past.
************************************************** ***********************************
Though states may not allow "Mobile" scanners... do they have in those
same laws or any other laws, any thing that remotely relates to a "hand
held" scanner being carried - ESPECIALLY - on board say - a "Transit" bus?
Now, I know that "transit buses" have signs and perhaps a policy - often
loosely enforced, as to having radios and the like (CD players and such)
played so as not to disturb other passengers. But is there any "LAWS"
keeping a person from carrying a "scanner" on board a bus? Oh, and I'm not
referring to any laws which may cover if a scanner were to be used in the
course of a crime being committed. I'm talking having one - in general.

I had a person tell me just today, a bus operator told them "A scanner was
illegal aboard a bus." The bus in question was in PA (the driver didn't
refer to PA specifically though), and I asked the party if they had
headphones on - they said yes. I know that most if not all the time, IF
headphones are worn, the radio or whatever is not brought into question. I
personally think the driver stepped WAY out of his league of knowledge.

Your thoughts?????

Thanks,

Lou