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Jim February 11th 05 04:27 AM


wrote in message
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I must live in an area where they only sell WFM phones then... About a
year ago, when I did some listening in, there were VERY FEW, (like maybe
2) that I could actually receive, the rest were unintelligable as they
were in WFM (Over 95% I'd guess). You must live in one of those
"odd-ball" areas that only sell NFM analog 900Mhz phones. Good for you.
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where I am, most of the 900 MHZ cordless phones are narrow FM. And his
area seems to be the same.

So I would say that it's your area that seems to be the oddball area,
selling mostly 900 MHZ cordles phoes that are wide FM.

And I have lived a number of places, so far.




There is mostly WFM here. It's still readable on a narrow FM scanner with
some distortion...



Jim February 11th 05 05:03 AM


wrote in message
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What FAQ??
Every scanner that I have has WFM - and I do not own trunking scanners -
some of my scanners have been cheap arsed pieces of ****e, some are good
quality, but all have had WFM.
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whee I am, the only trunking scanners I have seen for sale do not have
WFM at all.

My new scanner that does not do trunk tracking at all does have WFM.

So I have to agree with you


You cant take one scanner and base "I agree" on that! I'll take a Ferrari
and say all cars can do 170 mph! Good God at least do some reading!




[email protected] February 11th 05 07:54 AM

Wideband Receivers DON'T COUNT. They are NOT "regular" scanners; matter
of fact, they are not scanners at all... There's a difference, but
apparently you're just too stupid to notice.
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tell the police and judge that when they arrest you for listening to a
scanner in a motor vehicle in a state that doesn't allow scanners in
motor vehicles.

the official legal definition of a scanner is a device that scans 4 or
more channels between 30 MHZ and ( I think 1200 MHZ).

The definition also describes the speed at which it has to scan to be
counted or not counted as a scanner. I couldn't remember the actual rate
speed.

The legal definition of what is and isn't a scanner is the same for the
whole country.

What you count as not a scanner, a policeman or judge who checks the
actual laws will most likely find that what you count as not a scanner
is indeed a scanner.






[email protected] February 11th 05 09:07 PM

wrote:
Wideband Receivers DON'T COUNT. They are NOT "regular" scanners;
matter of fact, they are not scanners at all... There's a difference,
but apparently you're just too stupid to notice.
---------------------------------------------------

tell the police and judge that when they arrest you for listening to
a scanner in a motor vehicle in a state that doesn't allow scanners
in motor vehicles.

the official legal definition of a scanner is a device that scans
4 or more channels between 30 MHZ and ( I think 1200 MHZ).

The definition also describes the speed at which it has to scan to
be counted or not counted as a scanner. I couldn't remember the
actual rate speed.

The legal definition of what is and isn't a scanner is the same
for the whole country.

What you count as not a scanner, a policeman or judge who checks
the actual laws will most likely find that what you count as not
a scanner is indeed a scanner.



PART 15_RADIO FREQUENCY DEVICES:
Sec. 15.3 Definitions.

(v) Scanning receiver. For the purpose of this part, this is a
receiver that automatically switches among two or more frequencies in
the range of 30 to 960 MHz and that is capable of stopping at and
receiving a radio signal detected on a frequency. Receivers designed
solely for the reception of the broadcast signals under part 73 of
this chapter, for the reception of NOAA broadcast weather band signals,
or for operation as part of a licensed service are not included in
this definition.

[CITE: 47CFR15.3]
http://tinyurl.com/4g6g3
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The ECPA of 1986 prohibited the eavesdropping of cellular telephones,

CALEA amended 18 U.S.C =A7 2511 to prohibit the eavesdropping of
cordless telephones. -

Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (CALEA)
Public Law No. 103-414, 108 Stat. 4279 (10/25/1994)
also known as "The Digital Telephony Act".

103d CONGRESS, 2d Session
H=2E R. 4922 Sponsor: Rep Edwards, Don
S=2E2375 Sponsor: Sen Leahy, Patrick J
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TITLE 18 PART I CHAPTER 119 =A7 2511
=A7 2511. Interception and disclosure of wire, oral, or electronic
communications prohibited

http://tinyurl.com/3l579


Korbin Dallas February 12th 05 06:02 PM

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 06:09:24 -0800, stryped wrote:

I know it is not legal but can a regular scanner that covers 900 mhz
listen to cordless phone conversations?


Since most 900 Mhz phones are Digital...

The Answer is No.



DougSlug February 12th 05 08:18 PM

FALSE! Thanks for playing...


"Korbin Dallas" wrote in message
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 06:09:24 -0800, stryped wrote:

Since most 900 Mhz phones are Digital...

The Answer is No.




NORMAN TRIANTAFILOS February 13th 05 09:33 PM

sure you just scan between 902.000 and about 902.8000 and you can receive
the base to handset nfm (+- 5khz)signal but there isnt a standard on all
this and some phones have the base to handset signal out on the upper part
of the band so you may want to search between 902.000 and 928.000.also most
scanners have the frequency step size fixed at lets say 12.5 khz so it hard
to hear the signal exactly on the right frequency and it will sound
distorted.i dont know why they make scanners without a way to set the tuning
freq step but they do...

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"Barry OGrady" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 18:02:02 GMT, Korbin Dallas

wrote:

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 06:09:24 -0800, stryped wrote:

I know it is not legal but can a regular scanner that covers 900 mhz
listen to cordless phone conversations?


Since most 900 Mhz phones are Digital...


Most, but not all.

The Answer is No.



-Barry
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BILLY February 17th 05 12:19 AM

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 18:02:02 GMT, Korbin Dallas
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 06:09:24 -0800, stryped wrote:

I know it is not legal but can a regular scanner that covers 900 mhz
listen to cordless phone conversations?


Since most 900 Mhz phones are Digital...

The Answer is No.

And I say maybe.
I have been able to listen to all 900 fones I have tried. Im not
saying that it is not possible at all, just that all the ones I've
tried work fine -- ON TWO FREQUENCIES usually 902 or 903 and 925
through 927 I think...and I find that a lot of restaurants (not BK or
McD for instance) use a cordless fone. that I can pick up. My son got
****ed at me because I (not on purpose, just by accident) was eating
dinner and wham he started talking to his girlfriend. I almost puked.
I sorta remember when I was 18, now. I had forgotten about all the bs
and sweet talk. anyway he heard me say something to his mother and he
blew his top. Now he doesn't tie up my fone any more. he got a 2.4ghz
fone now and he has almost gotten over his paranoia.



Billy, N5WE
Mississippi

Jim February 17th 05 12:31 AM


"BILLY" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 18:02:02 GMT, Korbin Dallas
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 06:09:24 -0800, stryped wrote:

I know it is not legal but can a regular scanner that covers 900 mhz
listen to cordless phone conversations?


Since most 900 Mhz phones are Digital...

The Answer is No.

And I say maybe.
I have been able to listen to all 900 fones I have tried. Im not
saying that it is not possible at all, just that all the ones I've
tried work fine -- ON TWO FREQUENCIES usually 902 or 903 and 925
through 927 I think...and I find that a lot of restaurants (not BK or
McD for instance) use a cordless fone. that I can pick up. My son got
****ed at me because I (not on purpose, just by accident) was eating
dinner and wham he started talking to his girlfriend. I almost puked.
I sorta remember when I was 18, now. I had forgotten about all the bs
and sweet talk. anyway he heard me say something to his mother and he
blew his top. Now he doesn't tie up my fone any more. he got a 2.4ghz
fone now and he has almost gotten over his paranoia.



Billy, N5WE
Mississippi


This thread started, ended and started again! Yes there are phones in the
clear in WFM & NFM on 900 Mhz...



Jeff Seale February 25th 05 02:24 AM

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 15:25:12 GMT, Paul Keenleyside wrote:

"news.vif.com" wrote in message
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wrote:
I know it is not legal

FYI illegal to listen to cellphones/cordless phones
US/Canada.

but can a regular scanner that covers 900 mhz
listen to cordless phone conversations?


Yes!.


Given the limited range of cordless phones and the content, why would anyone
bother?

But techncially yes.


There are always DX opportunitities, like when it's cloudy or extremely
warm outside, just like with good ol' FM.


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