Anyone got any suggestions as to whether there have been any developments in
short-wave radio technology in the last few years which mandate looking for
some specific radio please? I accidentally broke the display on my YB400,
which never actually picked up many stations at all in any event. Only VERY
local god-spots. I always suspected some problem with its factory set-up.
The scan function would just spin past perfectly strong stations for no
apparent reason. And I use it in the dark and when I DID find some station,
setting the memory is (to me) a nightmare. In the dark, switching between
bands is virtually impossible. Worst of all, using it with headphones is an
even worse nightma It pushes out a painful pressure wave into your ear
every time it stops!!

Has any other company ever developed any proper seek function on short wave
or does anyone think that the YB500 actually picks up stations any better
than this one does? It doesn't bother with any sort of seek function,
preferring to stop every second or so in the hope of picking up at least
something!

I think the search function on the newer Chinese radios work OK - but
not perfect - and I use them at night in the dark when my XYL is
sleeping. I have a Kaito/Degen 1102 which is pretty sensitive and
searches OK, and also my Realistic/Sangean DX-398/ATS-909 searches
OK. Gotta turn off that beep on the Sangean... but they both work --
Again, not perfect, but acceptable enough to enable searching in total
darkness with the dial light off.

Just my take. Works for me, anyway... // Richards //

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Has any other company ever developed any proper seek function

"Richards" wrote in message
oups.com...
I think the search function on the newer Chinese radios work OK - but
not perfect - and I use them at night in the dark when my XYL is
sleeping. I have a Kaito/Degen 1102 which is pretty sensitive and
searches OK, and also my Realistic/Sangean DX-398/ATS-909 searches
OK. Gotta turn off that beep on the Sangean... but they both work --
Again, not perfect, but acceptable enough to enable searching in total
darkness with the dial light off.

Does the seek search between 'bands' or is there some way of switching
between bands manually? Also, when you search manually, do you find
stations missed by the seek button? And can it be used with an ear-phone
like the YB400 can't?

And does anyone know if the KA11 (or DE11) is a new and updated version of
the 1102 with all the same circuitry in a smaller package or is it some
cheapy no-feature low grade low sensitivity completely different model?

"news.rcn.com" news.rnc.com wrote in message
...

"Richards" wrote in message
oups.com...
I think the search function on the newer Chinese radios work OK - but
not perfect - and I use them at night in the dark when my XYL is
sleeping. I have a Kaito/Degen 1102 which is pretty sensitive and
searches OK, and also my Realistic/Sangean DX-398/ATS-909 searches
OK. Gotta turn off that beep on the Sangean... but they both work --
Again, not perfect, but acceptable enough to enable searching in total
darkness with the dial light off.

Does the seek search between 'bands' or is there some way of switching
between bands manually? Also, when you search manually, do you find
stations missed by the seek button? And can it be used with an ear-phone
like the YB400 can't?

I broke 3 YB-400s! My Kaito KA-1102 has fallen 5-6 times with no harm.
George (MN)
news.rcn.com wrote:
Anyone got any suggestions as to whether there have been any developments in
short-wave radio technology in the last few years which mandate looking for
some specific radio please? I accidentally broke the display on my YB400,
which never actually picked up many stations at all in any event. Only VERY
local god-spots. I always suspected some problem with its factory set-up.
The scan function would just spin past perfectly strong stations for no
apparent reason. And I use it in the dark and when I DID find some station,
setting the memory is (to me) a nightmare. In the dark, switching between
bands is virtually impossible. Worst of all, using it with headphones is an
even worse nightma It pushes out a painful pressure wave into your ear
every time it stops!!

Has any other company ever developed any proper seek function on short wave
or does anyone think that the YB500 actually picks up stations any better
than this one does? It doesn't bother with any sort of seek function,
preferring to stop every second or so in the hope of picking up at least
something!

Yes, I am prepared to accept that, and the input transistors of my Grundig
seem to have been blown since I took delivery of it: But this Degen
company, - which has a reputation for continuously improving their
models, - has just brought out this completely new and attractive-looking
KA11 or DE11 model with a VERY interesting feature which lets it seek and
automatically store virtually all locally available stations simply by
pressing a button. So you can automatically adjust for whatever is going on
in the tropopause every time you turn on the unit!

No one seems to know yet if it incorporates the circuitry of the already
extant models or if they have ventured into the cheapie no-frills piece of
junk end of the market and stuck a few bells and whistles on it (like
Phillips).

I would just go out and buy one as it is relatively inexpensive but there
are some snobbish reports of it not being dual conversion (meaning it
clearly isn't just the old trusted circuitry updated), and some reports of
that meaning nothing IN PRACTICE so I am wary.

wrote in message
oups.com...
I broke 3 YB-400s! My Kaito KA-1102 has fallen 5-6 times with no harm.
George (MN)

ka-11, don't bother...i ordered one and sent it right
back....terrible selectivity, virtually no sensitivity, cheap
construction, speaker is awful..sure looks nice though.
news.rcn.com wrote:
And does anyone know if the KA11 (or DE11) is a new and updated version of
the 1102 with all the same circuitry in a smaller package or is it some
cheapy no-feature low grade low sensitivity completely different model?

"news.rcn.com" news.rnc.com wrote in message
...

"Richards" wrote in message
oups.com...
I think the search function on the newer Chinese radios work OK - but
not perfect - and I use them at night in the dark when my XYL is
sleeping. I have a Kaito/Degen 1102 which is pretty sensitive and
searches OK, and also my Realistic/Sangean DX-398/ATS-909 searches
OK. Gotta turn off that beep on the Sangean... but they both work --
Again, not perfect, but acceptable enough to enable searching in total
darkness with the dial light off.

Does the seek search between 'bands' or is there some way of switching
between bands manually? Also, when you search manually, do you find
stations missed by the seek button? And can it be used with an ear-phone
like the YB400 can't?

Greetings: I am not sure exactly what you expect from a radio that
is just a bit bigger then a deck of cards. No one should expect the
performance of a average size portable or tabletop rig. I own several
radios, my Panasonic RF-2200, and a Sony ICF-2002, Eton E5, and others.
Can my Degen DE11 compete with them?? Not a chance. They outperform the
DE11/KA11 by miles. But read on. The DE11/KA11 is not intended to equal
their performance. I don't expect it to do so. I purchased a Degen DE11
on eBay, and I am very pleased with its performance and build. Is it
perfect? Not a chance. But I have yet to hear of a perfect radio. Does
it leave anything to be desired? Of course. I would love for it to have
syncronous detection, mutiple bandwidths, double conversion etc. But
HEY! Look at the size of this thing, and tell me you really expect that
in something this tiny. I think it's quite a deal that it is totally
digital, with a number of scanning features, and lots of memories,
nicely lit digital display etc. No, it is not a re-done KA1102.
Who-ever told you that really has the wrong information. It is a very
much up-graded DE105/KA105. The back of the radio is identical, and it
is just a couple millimeters thicker. The telescopic antenna of course
is not very long when extended of course. Again, that is to be expected
given the radio's size. It benefits from clipping an extra ten to
twenty feet of wire to the antenna, or plugging in the wire extension
antenna that comes with it. Much more and you would probably get
overload on a radio this tiny. But I find it receives quit well on all
bands, again, taking into consideration it's size. Better then I
expected for a radio so small.
I think it has, for its size, great sensitivity and selectivity.
And in my opinion, the build is more then adequate. As far as
construction, it is at least equal to the KA1102, or Eton E5. I bought
a little digital camera case that gives it great protection, fits it
like a glove, and has a small pouch that holds the extended wire
antenna, and a couple of spare rechargable batteries. I would not
hesitate to take it camping and hiking. It takes up just a small little
spot inside my back-pack.
At home, I will listen to my Panasonic, Sony or Eton. I love those
radios. But for a quick get-away to the backwoods on a camping, hiking
or canoeing trip,or an emergency evacuation where space and weight are
considerations, I would take the little Degen DE11/Kaito KA11 before
any of them. I ordered a second one yesterday.
Best regards

Greetings: I am not sure exactly what you expect from a radio that
is just a bit bigger then a deck of cards. No one should expect the
performance of a average size portable or tabletop rig. I own several
radios, my Panasonic RF-2200, and a Sony ICF-2002, Eton E5, and others.

Can my Degen DE11 compete with them?? Not a chance. They outperform the

DE11/KA11 by miles. But read on. The DE11/KA11 is not intended to equal

their performance. I don't expect it to do so. I purchased a Degen DE11

on eBay, and I am very pleased with its performance and build. Is it
perfect? Not a chance. But I have yet to hear of a perfect radio. Does
it leave anything to be desired? Of course. I would love for it to have

syncronous detection, mutiple bandwidths, double conversion etc. But
HEY! Look at the size of this thing, and tell me you really expect that

in something this tiny. I think it's quite a deal that it is totally
digital, with a number of scanning features, and lots of memories,
nicely lit digital display etc. No, it is not a re-done KA1102.
Who-ever told you that really has the wrong information. It is a very
much up-graded DE105/KA105. The back of the radio is identical, and it
is just a couple millimeters thicker. The telescopic antenna of course
is not very long when extended of course. Again, that is to be expected

given the radio's size. It benefits from clipping an extra ten to
twenty feet of wire to the antenna, or plugging in the wire extension
antenna that comes with it. Much more and you would probably get
overload on a radio this tiny. But I find it receives quit well on all
bands, again, taking into consideration it's size. Better then I
expected for a radio so small. And did I mention the price? Very
reasonable.
You should be able to find it for between forty to fifty bucks.
I think it has, for its size and price, great sensitivity and
selectivity.
And in my opinion, the build is more then adequate. As far as
construction, it is at least equal to the KA1102, or Eton E5. I bought
a little digital camera case that gives it great protection, fits it
like a glove, and has a small pouch that holds the extended wire
antenna, and a couple of spare rechargable batteries. I would not
hesitate to take it camping and hiking. It takes up just a small little

spot inside my back-pack.
At home, I will listen to my Panasonic, Sony or Eton,
(sometimes my DE11 just because I like it too.) I love those
radios. But for a quick get-away to the backwoods on a camping, hiking
or canoeing trip,or an emergency evacuation where space and weight are
considerations, I would take the little Degen DE11/Kaito KA11 before
any of my larger heavier radios. I ordered a second DE11 a couple of
days ago..
Best regards, Cato


news.rcn.com wrote:
And does anyone know if the KA11 (or DE11) is a new and updated version of
the 1102 with all the same circuitry in a smaller package or is it some
cheapy no-feature low grade low sensitivity completely different model?

"news.rcn.com" news.rnc.com wrote in message
...

"Cato" wrote
Greetings: I am not sure exactly what you expect from a radio that
is just a bit bigger then a deck of cards. No one should expect the
performance of a average size portable or tabletop rig. I own several
radios, my Panasonic RF-2200, and a Sony ICF-2002, Eton E5, and others.

Can my Degen DE11 compete with them?? Not a chance. They outperform the
DE11/KA11 by miles. But read on. The DE11/KA11 is not intended to equal
their performance. I don't expect it to do so. I purchased a Degen DE11
on eBay, and I am very pleased with its performance and build. Is it
perfect? Not a chance. But I have yet to hear of a perfect radio. Does
it leave anything to be desired? Of course. I would love for it to have
syncronous detection, mutiple bandwidths, double conversion etc. But
HEY! Look at the size of this thing, and tell me you really expect that
in something this tiny.

Yes, I do! With my Sony SW100 and SW07.
You get what you pay for. A DE11? BWAHAHAHA!!!!