KNX 1070 exhibits severe motorboating at night
 

On Sep 18, 7:13 am, David wrote:
Apparently the selective fading bug manifests during very mild fades,
unnoticeable before 9-14, but very prominent and distracting since.

I'm about 40 or so miles from the transmitter and the night signal is
definitely compromised.

And 'what' do you attribute this too . . . ~ RHF

KNX 1070 exhibits severe motorboating at night
 

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:15:37 -0700, RHF
wrote:

On Sep 18, 7:13 am, David wrote:
Apparently the selective fading bug manifests during very mild fades,
unnoticeable before 9-14, but very prominent and distracting since.

I'm about 40 or so miles from the transmitter and the night signal is
definitely compromised.

And 'what' do you attribute this too . . . ~ RHF
.
Can you say HD Radio? C'mon it's not too many syllables so give it a
try.

KNX 1070 exhibits severe motorboating at night
 

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:15:37 -0700, RHF
wrote:

On Sep 18, 7:13 am, David wrote:
Apparently the selective fading bug manifests during very mild fades,
unnoticeable before 9-14, but very prominent and distracting since.

I'm about 40 or so miles from the transmitter and the night signal is
definitely compromised.

And 'what' do you attribute this too . . . ~ RHF
.
IBOC. Try to pay attention Tilda Boy.

KNX 1070 exhibits severe motorboating at night
 

On Sep 19, 7:00 am, David wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:15:37 -0700, RHF
wrote:

On Sep 18, 7:13 am, David wrote:
Apparently the selective fading bug manifests during very mild fades,
unnoticeable before 9-14, but very prominent and distracting since.

I'm about 40 or so miles from the transmitter and the night signal is
definitely compromised.

And 'what' do you attribute this too . . . ~ RHF
.

- IBOC. Try to pay attention Tilda Boy.

David - Please Re-Read Your Original Post
-and- Don't Read Anything In To It :

"KNX 1070 exhibits severe motorboating at night"

"Apparently the selective fading bug manifests during
very mild fades, unnoticeable before 9-14, but very
prominent and distracting since."

"I'm about 40 or so miles from the transmitter and the
night signal is definitely compromised."

Point of Fact - The Word "IBOC" does not appear in it at all.

* The Words 'motorboating' , 'selective fading' and 'mild fades'
are genearlly considered Analog Radio Terms.

* Digital "Drop-Out" would be an IBOC {Digital} Radio Term.

David - I never knew that your had an IBOC AM/MW Radio
to clearly make a judgement as to where it was the IBOC
Digital Signal that was the Problem with your AM/MW
'Analog' Radio reception.

David - I will give you the Point that you can hear Digital Hash
on your Analog AM/MW Radios that is Attributed to IBOC.
-but- To Attribute : 'motorboating' , 'selective fading' and
'mild fades' to IBOC is a stretch - imho.

David -Question- Do You Own an IBOC AM/MW Radio ?

FWIW - This "Tilda Boy" is Paying Attention.

david - now go enjoy your radios ~ RHF

KNX 1070 exhibits severe motorboating at night
 

On Sep 19, 10:03 pm, David wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:12:16 -0700, RHF
wrote:





On Sep 19, 7:00 am, David wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:15:37 -0700, RHF
wrote:

On Sep 18, 7:13 am, David wrote:
Apparently the selective fading bug manifests during very mild fades,
unnoticeable before 9-14, but very prominent and distracting since.

I'm about 40 or so miles from the transmitter and the night signal is
definitely compromised.

And 'what' do you attribute this too . . . ~ RHF
.

- IBOC. Try to pay attention Tilda Boy.

David - Please Re-Read Your Original Post
-and- Don't Read Anything In To It :

"KNX 1070 exhibits severe motorboating at night"

"Apparently the selective fading bug manifests during
very mild fades, unnoticeable before 9-14, but very
prominent and distracting since."

"I'm about 40 or so miles from the transmitter and the
night signal is definitely compromised."

Point of Fact - The Word "IBOC" does not appear in it at all.

* The Words 'motorboating' , 'selective fading' and 'mild fades'
are genearlly considered Analog Radio Terms.

* Digital "Drop-Out" would be an IBOC {Digital} Radio Term.

David - I never knew that your had an IBOC AM/MW Radio
to clearly make a judgement as to where it was the IBOC
Digital Signal that was the Problem with your AM/MW
'Analog' Radio reception.

David - I will give you the Point that you can hear Digital Hash
on your Analog AM/MW Radios that is Attributed to IBOC.
-but- To Attribute : 'motorboating' , 'selective fading' and
'mild fades' to IBOC is a stretch - imho.

David -Question- Do You Own an IBOC AM/MW Radio ?

FWIW - This "Tilda Boy" is Paying Attention.

david - now go enjoy your radios ~ RHF
.

Like I sez, you ain't payin' attention.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

David - Oh Never Mind ~ RHF

KNX 1070 exhibits severe motorboating at night
 

On Sep 19, 10:12 am, RHF wrote:
On Sep 19, 7:00 wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:15:37 -0700, RHF
wrote:

On Sep 18, 7:13 wrote:
Apparently the selective fading bug manifests during very mild fades,
unnoticeable before 9-14, but very prominent and distracting since.

I'm about 40 or so miles from the transmitter and the night signal is
definitely compromised.

And 'what' do you attribute this too . . . ~ RHF
.

- IBOC. Try to pay attention Tilda Boy.

David- Please Re-Read Your Original Post
-and- Don't Read Anything In To It :

"KNX 1070 exhibits severemotorboatingat night"

"Apparently the selective fading bug manifests during
very mild fades, unnoticeable before 9-14, but very
prominent and distracting since."

"I'm about 40 or so miles from the transmitter and the
night signal is definitely compromised."

Point of Fact - The Word "IBOC" does not appear in it at all.

* The Words 'motorboating' , 'selective fading' and 'mild fades'
are genearlly considered Analog Radio Terms.

* Digital "Drop-Out" would be an IBOC {Digital} Radio Term.

David- I never knew that your had an IBOC AM/MW Radio
to clearly make a judgement as to where it was the IBOC
Digital Signal that was the Problem with your AM/MW
'Analog' Radio reception.

David- I will give you the Point that you can hear Digital Hash
on your Analog AM/MW Radios that is Attributed to IBOC.
-but- To Attribute : 'motorboating' , 'selective fading' and
'mild fades' to IBOC is a stretch - imho.

David-Question- Do You Own an IBOC AM/MW Radio ?

FWIW - This "Tilda Boy" is Paying Attention.

david- now go enjoy your radios ~ RHF
.


David,

I apologize - I am now Hearing what you described
as "Motorboating" on many of the "HD" Stations in
the Early Morning at about 7 AM.


I Ask Myself : What IBOC ?
All I See Is The Blinking Blue Light ! ~ RHF
In the Distant Land Where IBOC Fears To Go :
Life Exists and Radio Listeners Live Beyond the 10mv/m Contour.

KNX 1070 exhibits severe motorboating at night
 

On Sep 24, 10:51 am, RHF wrote:
On Sep 19, 10:12 am, RHF wrote:



On Sep 19, 7:00 wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:15:37 -0700, RHF
wrote:

On Sep 18, 7:13 wrote:
Apparently the selective fading bug manifests during very mild fades,
unnoticeable before 9-14, but very prominent and distracting since.

I'm about 40 or so miles from the transmitter and the night signal is
definitely compromised.

And 'what' do you attribute this too . . . ~ RHF
.

- IBOC. Try to pay attention Tilda Boy.

David- Please Re-Read Your Original Post
-and- Don't Read Anything In To It :

"KNX 1070 exhibits severemotorboatingat night"

"Apparently the selective fading bug manifests during
very mild fades, unnoticeable before 9-14, but very
prominent and distracting since."

"I'm about 40 or so miles from the transmitter and the
night signal is definitely compromised."

Point of Fact - The Word "IBOC" does not appear in it at all.

* The Words 'motorboating' , 'selective fading' and 'mild fades'
are genearlly considered Analog Radio Terms.

* Digital "Drop-Out" would be an IBOC {Digital} Radio Term.

David- I never knew that your had an IBOC AM/MW Radio
to clearly make a judgement as to where it was the IBOC
Digital Signal that was the Problem with your AM/MW
'Analog' Radio reception.

David- I will give you the Point that you can hear Digital Hash
on your Analog AM/MW Radios that is Attributed to IBOC.
-but- To Attribute : 'motorboating' , 'selective fading' and
'mild fades' to IBOC is a stretch - imho.

David-Question- Do You Own an IBOC AM/MW Radio ?

FWIW - This "Tilda Boy" is Paying Attention.

david- now go enjoy your radios ~ RHF
.

David,

I apologize - I am now Hearing what you described
as "Motorboating" on many of the "HD" Stations in
the Early Morning at about 7 AM.

I Ask Myself : What IBOC ?
All I See Is The Blinking Blue Light ! ~ RHF
In the Distant Land Where IBOC Fears To Go :
Life Exists and Radio Listeners Live Beyond the 10mv/m Contour.
.

I suppose I can try KNX this morning, but I don't see any reason for
IBOC to cause motorboating. Granted IBOC sucks in many other ways, but
it should not have such an effect on the analog signal.

KNX 1070 exhibits severe motorboating at night
 

On Sep 24, 9:13 pm, wrote:
On Sep 24, 10:51 am, RHF wrote:





On Sep 19, 10:12 am, RHF wrote:

On Sep 19, 7:00 wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:15:37 -0700, RHF
wrote:

On Sep 18, 7:13 wrote:
Apparently the selective fading bug manifests during very mild fades,
unnoticeable before 9-14, but very prominent and distracting since.

I'm about 40 or so miles from the transmitter and the night signal is
definitely compromised.

And 'what' do you attribute this too . . . ~ RHF
.

- IBOC. Try to pay attention Tilda Boy.

David- Please Re-Read Your Original Post
-and- Don't Read Anything In To It :

"KNX 1070 exhibits severemotorboatingat night"

"Apparently the selective fading bug manifests during
very mild fades, unnoticeable before 9-14, but very
prominent and distracting since."

"I'm about 40 or so miles from the transmitter and the
night signal is definitely compromised."

Point of Fact - The Word "IBOC" does not appear in it at all.

* The Words 'motorboating' , 'selective fading' and 'mild fades'
are genearlly considered Analog Radio Terms.

* Digital "Drop-Out" would be an IBOC {Digital} Radio Term.

David- I never knew that your had an IBOC AM/MW Radio
to clearly make a judgement as to where it was the IBOC
Digital Signal that was the Problem with your AM/MW
'Analog' Radio reception.

David- I will give you the Point that you can hear Digital Hash
on your Analog AM/MW Radios that is Attributed to IBOC.
-but- To Attribute : 'motorboating' , 'selective fading' and
'mild fades' to IBOC is a stretch - imho.

David-Question- Do You Own an IBOC AM/MW Radio ?

FWIW - This "Tilda Boy" is Paying Attention.

david- now go enjoy your radios ~ RHF
.

David,

I apologize - I am now Hearing what you described
as "Motorboating" on many of the "HD" Stations in
the Early Morning at about 7 AM.

I Ask Myself : What IBOC ?
All I See Is The Blinking Blue Light ! ~ RHF
In the Distant Land Where IBOC Fears To Go :
Life Exists and Radio Listeners Live Beyond the 10mv/m Contour.
.

I suppose I can try KNX this morning, but I don't see any reason for
IBOC to cause motorboating. Granted IBOC sucks in many other ways, but
it should not have such an effect on the analog signal.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

M...Sushi,

1 - It may be that there is a 'Predictable Point' {Distance from
the Transmitter} and specific Time-of-Day when the Radio
Stations Analog Signal and it's Digital Signal cause a phase
mixing product that 'appears to be' {sounds like} what is
classically called 'motorboating'.

-Or- it may be the Radio Stations own Analog Signal with the
Digital Signal of one or more of the Adjacent Channels Radio
Station; that is 'causing' this audio effect.

The 'Cause' May Be Unknown - But What You "Hear" Is Real.

2 - Also I am hearing more and more of what we use to call
Automotive Engine {Ingition} Noise {at very High RPM} with
the Radi-Osophy HD-100 Radio.

When I first got this "HD" Radio this Noise was not as
noticeable -but- now it is the 'preponderant' sound across
the AM/MW Band except when there is a Clean and Clear
Analog AM/MW Radio Station to listen to on any given
Frequency.

-NOTE- This HD Radio "Noise" Background is so strong
that IMHO most 2nd and 3rd Generation "HD" Radios
should have a Squelch Knob to quiet-out this Noise so
that a Radio Listener only has to hear those 'local'
AM/MW Radio Stations with a Clean and Clear Signal :
Be it Analog or Digital.


I Ask Myself : What IBOC ?
All I See Is The Blinking Blue Light ! ~ RHF
In That Distant Land* Where IBOC Fears To Go :
Life Exists and Radio Listeners Live Beyond the 10mv/m Contour.
* Twain Harte, CA -USA-

KNX 1070 exhibits severe motorboating at night
 

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:13:43 -0700, wrote:


I suppose I can try KNX this morning, but I don't see any reason for
IBOC to cause motorboating. Granted IBOC sucks in many other ways, but
it should not have such an effect on the analog signal.

It's part of the IBOC signal. If you have selectable single sideband
listen to any HD AM station, one sideband only; you'll hear it quite
clearly. It's a warbling signal at approx. 400 Hz.

KNX 1070 exhibits severe motorboating at night
 

On Sep 25, 7:13 am, David wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:13:43 -0700, wrote:
I suppose I can try KNX this morning, but I don't see any reason for
IBOC to cause motorboating. Granted IBOC sucks in many other ways, but
it should not have such an effect on the analog signal.

It's part of the IBOC signal. If you have selectable single sideband
listen to any HD AM station, one sideband only; you'll hear it quite
clearly. It's a warbling signal at approx. 400 Hz.

David - My Point Is - I Am Hearing This With An "HD" Radio :

THIS IS BAD NEWS FOR "HD" AM/MW RADIO LISTENERS !

I am hearing more and more of what we use to call
Automotive Engine {Ingition} Noise {at very High RPM}
with the Radi-Osophy HD-100 Radio.

THIS IS BAD NEWS FOR "HD" AM/MW RADIO BROADCASTERS !

When I first got this "HD" Radio this Noise was not as
noticeable -but- now it is the 'preponderant' sound across
the AM/MW Band except when there is a Clean and Clear
Analog AM/MW Radio Station to listen to on any given
Frequency.

-NOTE- This HD Radio "Noise" Background is so strong
that IMHO most 2nd and 3rd Generation "HD" Radios
should have a Squelch Knob to quiet-out this Noise so
that a Radio Listener only has to hear those 'local'
AM/MW Radio Stations with a Clean and Clear Signal :
Be it Analog or Digital.

I Ask Myself : What IBOC ?
All I See Is The Blinking Blue Light ! ~ RHF
In That Distant Land* Where IBOC Fears To Go :
Life Exists and Radio Listeners Live Beyond the 10mv/m Contour.
* Twain Harte, CA -USA-