On Sep 25, 10:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

We are headed towards a 4th generation chipset next year.

So, I take it the Radiosophy currently on the market is a "third
generation" set?

Reviews have been mixed on that one, although some say the tuner is
better than the HD-Recepter.

Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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Yes, but that wasn't the comparision. How much had been spent on HD radio
content compared to how much had been spent on IBOC hardware?

A lot of stations simply beileve having the manin analog channel content
available in digital is a good gain, which is why less than half the HD
staitons have inititiated HD2 broadcasts.

Those of us who have some HD2 content have spent lots more on content... our
Tejano network on HD2 in Texas speands more on talent in a month than the
cost of each conversion.

And, to get to the point, there would have been good promotional value if
the HD radio early adoptors had something special to listen to, and maybe
brag about.

In some areas, the digital ability to reduce multipath is worth a great
deal.

But people have to at least hear the radios to appreciate any difference.
The market for "crystal clear" simulcasts at high prices is obviously and
predictably small. Better radios at lower prices and worthwhile HD radio
programming would have sold plenty more radios.

Personally, I don't think the HD Alliance campaign is very good... it's
about the creative more than the content. There are plenty of opportunities
to find classical, jazz and other non-duplicated formats on HD2's... country
in NY being a good example.

Not to say that I have any idea if such a rollout would have been worth
it.
The idea of putting more channels on the air without a corresponding
increase in overall listenership and advertising revenues seems
problematical to me but I'm just some guy with a radio, hearing the damn
noise nobody listens to.

I think the justification is in avoiding erosion to other media... yes, it
will fragment the audience, but it the end result is to keep existing
listeners on terrestrial radio, the fragmentation is a small cost.

The ads were on the air and from the radio buying public's point of view,
it
doesn't matter how they were paid for.

Yes, we agree here. But the earlier comments indicated that money was
spent... it was not. And, again, I thought the campaigns have failed to do
anything to make HD appealing. But I am not in the HD Alliance, so my
opinion is worth about what it costs to read it....

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
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No, there was no cash spent. Each member committed to giving a certain
VALUE
in ad time to HD promotion on its own stations. There is no out of pocket
cost in giving your own time to a particular purpose.

The promotions are being dropped by stations at end-of-year because
they were ineffectual because consumers don't give an ass's **** about
HD Radio:

The HD Alliance has NOTHING to do with iBiquity itself. It is a group of
broadcasters... like the RAB... that further a common goal. In this case,
the goal is to get people to notice something the member stations are doing.
The Alliance has nothing to do with receiver sales, receiver design,
encoders, licensing agreements, etc.

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
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True - there are more than enough AM/FM stations without the need for
simulcasting.


You obviously do not know what "simulcasting" means.

"Steve" wrote in message
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No, there was no cash spent. Each member committed to giving a certain
VALUE
in ad time to HD promotion on its own stations. There is no out of pocket
cost in giving your own time to a particular purpose.


According to the HD Alliance, vast amounts of money were spent.


No, large amounts of ad time, with a specific value, was used. If I run a
promo for my station on my station, I do not bill myself.

On Sep 25, 10:36 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

It's not a portable.

It's a portable in the same sense that a 13" or 19" AC-powered
television sets have been called "portable" in sales literature and
advertisements. Maybe something you can carry from room to room, but
still have to plug into a light socket, as opposed to a console that
is placed in one spot in the room..

But I agree, David, that's not my definition of portable. More like
TRANSportable.

Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA

David Eduardo wrote:

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
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True - there are more than enough AM/FM stations without the need for
simulcasting.


You obviously do not know what "simulcasting" means.

You know what "faux Hispanic" means, don't you, Edweenie?

"Steve" wrote in message
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1. Receptor is not a portable.He says it it.

iBiquity says it is.

Give me a break. It is one roughly 10" by 5" by 6" box, with a power cord,
connected to a half size box with the second speaker via a cable. The
battery in it is to hold memory on the clock and presets, and does not run
the radio. Together, the two boxes weigh about 4 to 5 lbs.

2. He lied about HD Alliance ad expenditure

Merely exposed your ignorance.

There was no expenditure... only contributed time by each Alliance station.

3. He is clueless about cost of going HD vs. normal engineering capital
items.

As are all the major proponents of HD, in that case.

For FMs, the cost of conversion in a top 100 market as a percentage of the
technical budget is small. For AMs that are viable, the same applies.

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Sep 25, 10:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message

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On Sep 25, 6:48 am, Steve wrote:

Not according to iBiquity, which maintains that the BA Receptor was
the best HD AM portable achievable.

Probably using the current chip design. Which is still not saying
much.

The receptor, of course, is not portable.

Explain that to iBiquity and report back.




Supposedly they're still working on a second generation design. Maybe
they should have waited a bit more till the receivers were perfected
before rolling this stuff out on the consumer market.

We are headed towards a 4th generation chipset next year.

Right. That's the one that Samsung says will be extremely expensive.

Everything released says that the chip will be lower cost, and nothing says
anything to the contrary.

On Sep 25, 12:54 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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No, there was no cash spent. Each member committed to giving a certain
VALUE
in ad time to HD promotion on its own stations. There is no out of pocket
cost in giving your own time to a particular purpose.

According to the HD Alliance, vast amounts of money were spent.

No, large amounts of ad time, with a specific value, was used. If I run a
promo for my station on my station, I do not bill myself.

You can fight this out yourself with the HD Alliance. Let us know how
you make out.