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Have a good receiver

Have a decent antenna..

have a thunder storm in the area

- any responses would be appreciated
Tks

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posted on Tue, 27 May 2008 13:48:14 -0700 (PDT), David wrote: Begin


- header says it all

Have a good receiver

Have a decent antenna..

have a thunder storm in the area

- any responses would be appreciated
Tks


I'd try a lower freq in AM mode, away from on-air stations.
IOW: Just out of band at the lower edge, maybe 520kcs AMBCB.
Also use as wide IF bandwidth as you have.


Also use a tube type radio... a lot of SS sets don't take kindly to
lightning, and can be destroyed by even a moderately close strike (I had one
give up the ghost from a strike about a mile away).



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RHF wrote:

* Sometimes the weak sounding ones are over a
Hundred Miles away.



Can I get a radio that works directly in kilometres? At this time I have
to use 5/8 wavelength antenna to do the miles/km conversion.




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David wrote:
- header says it all

Have a good receiver

Have a decent antenna..

have a thunder storm in the area

- any responses would be appreciated
Tks


Well, you don't state what your goal is...nearby storms, storms from a
1000 miles away, VLF "whistlers"?

For nearby storms, an interesting thing you can do is take a neon bulb
(typically an NE-2) and put one of its leads to the hot side of your
antenna and the other lead to ground. Even with a 15 or 20 foot long
wire, you will see it flash when storms are 5-10 miles away. BTW, the
NE-2 fires at about 60 volts. (So now you know why to disconnect/ground
your antenna when a storm is approaching). :-)

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On May 28, 3:24 pm, Billy Burpelson wrote:
David wrote:
- header says it all


Have a good receiver


Have a decent antenna..


have a thunder storm in the area


- any responses would be appreciated
Tks


Well, you don't state what your goal is...nearby storms, storms from a
1000 miles away, VLF "whistlers"?


- Well, how about storms close enough to light up a Neon NE2 ?

For nearby storms, an interesting thing you can do is take a neon bulb
(typically an NE-2) and put one of its leads to the hot side of your
antenna and the other lead to ground. Even with a 15 or 20 foot long
wire, you will see it flash when storms are 5-10 miles away. BTW, the
NE-2 fires at about 60 volts. (So now you know why to disconnect/ground
your antenna when a storm is approaching). :-)



Nice trick, Thanks !

Rat Shack has a bunch of neon tubes; - but the employees there know
less than I do about them.

- any Idea which one would do the trick ?

http://www.radioshack.com/search/ind...%20La mp&sr=1

Probably nice on a summer night, have a flashing light telling you to
Unhook the Frigging antenna
&, in certain parts of the country, head toward the shelter





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David wrote:
On May 28, 3:24 pm, Billy Burpelson wrote:
David wrote:
- header says it all
Have a good receiver
Have a decent antenna..
have a thunder storm in the area
- any responses would be appreciated
Tks

Well, you don't state what your goal is...nearby storms, storms from a
1000 miles away, VLF "whistlers"?


- Well, how about storms close enough to light up a Neon NE2 ?
For nearby storms, an interesting thing you can do is take a neon bulb
(typically an NE-2) and put one of its leads to the hot side of your
antenna and the other lead to ground. Even with a 15 or 20 foot long
wire, you will see it flash when storms are 5-10 miles away. BTW, the
NE-2 fires at about 60 volts. (So now you know why to disconnect/ground
your antenna when a storm is approaching). :-)



Nice trick, Thanks !

Rat Shack has a bunch of neon tubes; - but the employees there know
less than I do about them.

- any Idea which one would do the trick ?


As stated above, an NE-2 should do the trick and it should be marked as
such, even at Radio Shack. Any of the ones you point out will work. They
are the equivalent of the NE-2 but just have a series resistor you can
remove.The NE-2 has wire leads; the NE-51 is the same bulb but has a
bayonet base. If all else fails, find a night light that uses a neon
bulb; these are usually an NE-2 or equivalent with a series resistor.
Just remove the resistor. These are (usually) readily available at your
neighborhood 'Dollar Store'.

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I never did have any frequency for picking up wimmins.
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David wrote:

- header says it all

Have a good receiver

Have a decent antenna..

have a thunder storm in the area

- any responses would be appreciated
Tks




Characteristic average power spectra is in the range of 25 to 100MHz but
the signals generated are very broadband pulses.

Here is a page to build simple lightning detectors that operate around
300KHz.

http://www.techlib.com/electronics/lightning.html

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I have an old 1960s Popular Science magazine around here somewhere.The
magazine has an article by a guy how to tune a tv set to show when a
tornado is very nearby.
cuhulin

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In article ,
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I have an old 1960s Popular Science magazine around here somewhere.The
magazine has an article by a guy how to tune a tv set to show when a
tornado is very nearby.
cuhulin


Tornados generate the most spectral power around channel 2 I believe.

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