I like the ones who expect a $50.00 radio to perform like a $1500.00
radio and get mad when they find out that it does not.

I don't know: I've seen the degen 1102 in action against a number of high
class radios and the 1102 could sure as hell hold up just as well as the
other $$$ ones

Perhaps some people expect such high-dollar performance from low-cost radios
because other people make claims like John's (not that he's 'wrong', it's his
opinion)... but I'd safely say that a Degen or Kaito 1102 radio would not
satisfy me nearly as fully as the Drake R8B did, or the Icom R75 does, and
while a lot of that qualification would necessarily be based on my listening
needs as opposed to someone else's, there's a basic feature and design gap as
well as price gap (which is why there's a price gap at all).
Now, I'm not at all saying that cheap radios equal cheap performance
*automatically* (most of us can testify to that based on our own experiences)
but a lower-priced radio that was not designed with features, filtering and
stability as a higher-priced radio will necessarily be different, and likely
inferior overall, to the higher priced radio.
But it's all relative.
It's just that sometimes, a person will read a claim of "this cheaper radio
works just as well as (big-rig-model-here) works" and accept it at face value,
not considering the many factors which would cause such a claim from one
reviewer or user.
I do have to say that it's neat to see the number of cheaper radios available
now which offer some surprisingly good listening for the buck. But many of
these models have limitations (naturally) that mid-to-higher-priced radios
don't have. The gap is narrowing, to be sure, but we're still a long way off
from a pocket radio acting like a Watkins-Johnson.
Linus

yes..this is also true, I'm just saying from what I saw...the degen 1102 was
a fairly nice radio for its price.
all valid points though
-John
Perhaps some people expect such high-dollar performance from low-cost
radios
because other people make claims like John's (not that he's 'wrong', it's
his
opinion)... but I'd safely say that a Degen or Kaito 1102 radio would not
satisfy me nearly as fully as the Drake R8B did, or the Icom R75 does, and
while a lot of that qualification would necessarily be based on my
listening
needs as opposed to someone else's, there's a basic feature and design gap
as
well as price gap (which is why there's a price gap at all).
Now, I'm not at all saying that cheap radios equal cheap performance
*automatically* (most of us can testify to that based on our own
experiences)
but a lower-priced radio that was not designed with features, filtering
and
stability as a higher-priced radio will necessarily be different, and
likely
inferior overall, to the higher priced radio.
But it's all relative.
It's just that sometimes, a person will read a claim of "this cheaper
radio
works just as well as (big-rig-model-here) works" and accept it at face
value,
not considering the many factors which would cause such a claim from one
reviewer or user.
I do have to say that it's neat to see the number of cheaper radios
available
now which offer some surprisingly good listening for the buck. But many of
these models have limitations (naturally) that mid-to-higher-priced radios
don't have. The gap is narrowing, to be sure, but we're still a long way
off
from a pocket radio acting like a Watkins-Johnson.
Linus

GrtPmpkin32 wrote:
I like the ones who expect a $50.00 radio to perform like a $1500.00
radio and get mad when they find out that it does not.

but we're still a long way off from a pocket radio acting like
a Watkins-Johnson.
Linus

Linus:
Hell we're still a long way off from a pocket radio acting like a Sony 2010.
--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

Most of the idiots I encounter seem to enjoy driving on the streets and
roads around me. The incredibly slow ones always seem to end up in front of
me, and the outrageously fast ones always seem to end up behind me.


I think I got you beat on that one. There were a few idiots here in one car who
would get behind me and speed up super-fast , so that I had to speed up to
avoid a wreck, and then they would pass me and pull in front of me and go
super-slow so that I had to pass them to avoid a wreck, and then they would
speed up super-fast behind me, then super slow in front of me (on the freeway).

I like the ones who expect a $50.00 radio to perform like a $1500.00
radio and get mad when they find out that it does not.


Well, that's probably close to me.

I never expect ed a $50.00 radio to perform like a $1,500 radio, but I did
expect the $500.00 I spent for an IC-R3 to perform like a $500.00 radio.

which as I found out I was an idiot for expecting that.

but I'd safely say that a Degen or Kaito 1102 radio would not
satisfy me nearly as fully as the Drake R8B did, or the Icom R75 does,

Shoot, I KNOW (just by looking at the specs) it wouldn't hear what I already
have here (receiver wise)...so why buy.

I already have my little ones. DX399 /Bell&Howell / OMG transistor radio that
is *very* tiny. Those are just the 'little' ones.

Hey, if they want to spend the money and like it, fine. I'd rather have a
good Hammarlund or another tube radio myself.

It's just that sometimes, a person will read a claim of "this cheaper radio
works just as well as (big-rig-model-here) works" and accept it at face
value,
not considering the many factors which would cause such a claim from one
reviewer or user.

I agree. The only 'cheap' radio (money wise) and I have no idea why they are
cheap that I own is my GE P780 that Brenda Ann sent me. Maybe because there is
no wal wart and it is strictly BCB and it just has two screws on the back, one
for the external wire and the ground. It takes six (I think) D cell batteries.

But for basically $48-50 and that includes shipping, you can have one of..if
not the best made (like a tank) BCB radios. I liked and was so impressed with
my first one that I'm getting a second.

Put it this way, so far, no loop has really improved a signal on it yet and
it'd be the perfect radio if all he** broke loose, nuclear or whatnot to have
with you. Plus you could actually use it for self defense, you hit someone
with it and it's all over. Then you can listen about it on the radio. ;-)

But that's my 'cheapie story'.....and I feel extremely fortunate to have two of
them. If any of you are into BCB dxing and can get one in here or on ebay, do
yourself a favor and grab it, you won't be dissapointed.
**no FM or TV or shortwave, just BCB**

I feel for ya. I know someone who has one :(
"Waterperson77" wrote in message
...
I like the ones who expect a $50.00 radio to perform like a $1500.00
radio and get mad when they find out that it does not.


Well, that's probably close to me.

I never expect ed a $50.00 radio to perform like a $1,500 radio, but I
did
expect the $500.00 I spent for an IC-R3 to perform like a $500.00 radio.

which as I found out I was an idiot for expecting that.

Waterperson77 wrote:

Most of the idiots I encounter seem to enjoy driving on the streets and
roads around me. The incredibly slow ones always seem to end up in front of
me, and the outrageously fast ones always seem to end up behind me.


I think I got you beat on that one. There were a few idiots here in one car who
would get behind me and speed up super-fast , so that I had to speed up to
avoid a wreck, and then they would pass me and pull in front of me and go
super-slow so that I had to pass them to avoid a wreck, and then they would
speed up super-fast behind me, then super slow in front of me (on the freeway).

After experiencing several events like that, I now carry a camcorder in
the car. I also have a bumper sticker on the rear window which reads,
"Smile for the camera".


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